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Rusty

I was taught a long time ago that 2 things that you do not talk about at family gatherings. That's politics and religion. Fastest way to start fights.

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SouthArk370Z

So, because we can't agree on everything, you're going to bail?

So far, I haven't seen anybody say anything that even remotely indicated that they did not value all lives. Just because somebody doesn't think a particular person deserves a holiday named after them doesn't mean they don't value that person's life - just that they are not the extra-special type of person that does deserve it.

Good luck in your bubble/echo-chamber.

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redondoaveb

I think Candace Owens said it best. "No question officer Chauvin committed a crime. I hope George Floyd's family gets justice. But Floyd held a gun to the belly of a pregnant woman...he is neither a martyr or a hero"

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JLarson

Sure, more than a decade prior, Floyd was a drug addict, and an *******. He also did his time, and there is ample evidence he turned his life around afterwards, and spoke articulately on the subject advising other people to avoid his poor life choices.

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redondoaveb

Yet methamphetamine and fentanyl were found in his system during the autopsy. Looks like he was still making poor life choices.

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cossie1600

I hate drugs as much as anyone, but I didn't know that deserves public execution.

redondoaveb

You're saying he was killed because the cops knew he was on drugs?

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SouthArk370Z

That's not the way I read it. I took it as meaning that even if he was doing drugs that doesn't make him so unworthy as to deserve death. YMMV

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redondoaveb

I agree with that. Of course not. He didn't deserve to die for any of his past or present issues. My point is that he is be portrayed as an angel and that is being disingenuous.

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And my point was that I didn't think that you had interpreted cossie1600's comment correctly. Not whether or not your comments about Mr. Floyd were right.

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cossie1600

Nope, I just didn't know drug use equal public execution. If that is the case, can we at least apply the force equally to the other drug users of other color. Heck, let's make sure we take out all drug users, I am sick of weed heads talking about how wonderful weed is.

We keep letting these police brutality escalate, the more of these videos/protests/riots we are going to see. This is not just about color either (although the people of color are more impacted by it for sure), but the escalation has got to stop. On the other hand, tougher punishments for the offenders would help too. Why are we being nice to people who keeps more of the same?

This will burn out after another week or two, but it won't take long before it happens again. Matter of fact, it is bound to happen. The wealth gap is going to get even bigger after this virus. The country's leadership is poor. The media is driving people to the extreme either way. We are so screwed.

Zyonara91

Reading through all of this, can't quote it all.

Life

Every life is precious, I'm a God loving man, I don't think He would put a life on this earth without reason. I'm only 29, but I've realized everything happens for a reason, good or bad, whether we know that reason is on us. We either have to come to a understanding and if we don't then it's a friendly reminder that we are only human. As humans we are flawed, we never will be perfect yet we constantly strive for perfection. Noah's ark, Adam and Eve, The Tower of Bable, Worshipping the golden calf heck the list goes on how humans can turn on a dime when it comes to good/bad, right/wrong etc. He did not deserve to die like that, nor does he deserve to be glorified and have a day named after him etc. You want a day named after you? Earn it. His death is sad and I hope he's in a better place and I hope God gives his family the strength needed to get through this life.

Perspective

Look at what's happening in parts of Africa how the "white man" is getting there farmland stripped of them due to their skin color. Where's the white lives matter march? In China, Chinese Muslims (Urumqi region) are beign slaughtered and "re educated" by the thousands. Where's the Muslim Chinese lives matter march? Funny thing (due to hypocrisy) is that some Muslims are always foaming at the mouth about Palestine this and Palestine that... Apparently only ARAB MUSLIM lives matter. . . But when it comes to Chinese Muslims, no one gives a rats ***, no one Muslim nation is standing up to China about. Why? Because China is the cash man, and who doesn't love cash?

Look at Pakistan. Always talking about how India treats its 200 million Muslim MINORITY like crap. Yeah, sure. That's why India had a Muslim President. Never seen a non Muslim president/high ranking official in Pakistan that wasn't a Muslim. . . Where is Pakistan's Prime Minister ridiculing China's approach to their Muslim minority? He won't talk down to them because China is funding Pakistani projects and giving them massive loans, which by the way, will crush them.

The basis here is, all lives matter, we should not pick and choose, we should stand against injustice no matter who it is against. When we pick and choose, it makes the movement, in my eyes, weak because it's focusing on a certain group.

Photo in thread with Chinese flag and asking for their help

It baffles me how idiotic some people are, it really does. My aunt is Vietnamese and tells me the horrors of communism. How it took her fathers hotel businesses, stripped them of everything, and forced them to flee. They had to go on a boat and travel to Thailand. Her sister was on another boat during a storm while fleeing, it sunk. . . took may lives with it. Communism does not work. I do not hate Chinese people, well not all, I get along with some but not all, but that goes for anyone. The Chinese government I don't trust and want gone, they're scum bags the whole lot of them.

People who stand for the Chinese government make me laugh. Go to China, speak against them, you and your family will dissapear faster than the memory of Liberals regarding Justin Trudeau and his black face and SNC Lavalin scandal.

Communism = bad. Show me a communist country, that follows the ideology to the "T" and is successful like the U.S, Canada, U.K and Australia. No ideology is perfect, but Democracy beats Communism any day.

Also... The WHO is trash, the U.N is trash as well. Here's a good clip, enjoy.

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Zoren 370

Lets put everything in proper prospective just because I didn’t see the way you see things Mr Sierra you insinuate that Im not empathic about the whole situation.

Just because I didn’t type the full name of GF Im branded as disingenuous?
Who is stereotyping or profiling now?

You talk high and mighty about equality and value of life..

When you can’t even respect my own opinion about it..but you have to insinuate that Im an apathetic human being.

So are you saying to have equality in society I have to agree to what your beliefs and values in life? I have to agree on what matters to you most? So you can stay in this forum?

What I saw in the videos is a human being being abused with excessive force by another human being! That is unacceptable, deplorable and demeaning as humans, unworthy of any emulation.

Just because I do not agree and have the same emotion as you have on the situation. You refuse to dine with me on the table and enjoy a decent meal as brothers?

We want reforms...we want change....we want equality...we want justice...we want everything!

Its always “what can I have” ... but never “what I can give” to make this world a better place for both of us even in different culture, different color, different language you name it...

Life is hard its never easy...but it doesn’t give you the right to commit a crime because you have nothing...You have nothing because you dont know the meaning of what is giving. It doesn’t give you the right to burn down business, loot stores, burn cars because your angry...you’ve been abused! Besides no Life was lost?!!

Wow and that’s acceptable to you? You rather save Life!


I always knew the greatest gift is the right to Choose what Life you want to live.

But You rather steal...sell drugs...buy cigarettes with counterfeit $20 bills and justify its ok because I have nothing....I deserve to get that away from you because you have more!.....because Im a victim of life's hardship..

Unfortunately another Criminal in uniform ( an Animal a blood hungry Animal) comes by and caught up with another criminal....guess what happens? End of story.

You know I wake up at 4am because I like to My yard to look good so I water it so it would look green and healthy so that all my neighbors would love to see my environment would be pleasant and be admired ..I took the sacrifice of making it better not just for me but for other humans to play and even attract neighbors dogs to poop on it...its ok I clean it..,to me that is a compliment.

But some how weeds keeps on sprouting on my beautiful yard....trying to suffocate my beautiful centipede grass... what do you think I need to do with the weeds! In order to maintain my green grass nice for everyone to enjoy!
Would I allow it to get destroyed by weeds?

You tell me Mr. Sierra... I respect you and I will follow your sound advice!

Rusty

Hey........wait a minute! You can't use the word "deplorable" in you post!. Because that's what Hillary called me at the last election. A deplorable.

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Zoren 370

Ok is Despicable Me a better choice?