Emergency Preparedness / Prepping

SouthArk370Z · 02-27-2020, 10:55 AM

The Coronavirus thread has evolved into a "prepping" thread so I thought we could move out of that thread. Post your hints, tips, and suggestions for surviving after a natural disaster or all-out SHTF.

To kick thing off:
1) Plan ahead. Trying to obtain food, water, etc when a catastrophe hits is going to be very difficult - you'll be competing for limited resources with everyone else.
2) People can survive for weeks without food but only 2-3 days without water. Food is important but water is even more so.
3) You will need some shelter. Hopefully, your home will be livable but keep a tent or other lodging handy.
4) You need to have some means of providing heat during those disasters that happen in cold weather.
5) Lighting (flashlights, lanterns) is more important than many people realize. Keep a good supply of batteries, fuel, etc.
6) You'll probably want to heat up or cook some food so have a portable stove on hand. Coleman has stoves that will run on gasoline or propane.

Chuck33079 · 02-27-2020, 11:37 AM

Ammo, dude. I can't take your ammo with my food or water, but I damn sure can take your food and water with my ammo.

SouthArk370Z · 02-27-2020, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Ammo, dude. I can't take your ammo with my food or water, but I damn sure can try to take your food and water with my ammo.

Fixed that for ya.

Ghostvette · 02-27-2020, 11:45 AM

To expand:

(mostly this is full on SHTF stuff)

If you own firearms:

1) 2000 rounds per caliber owned. (minimum)
2) Military 50 cal cans or larger. The 50 cal cans will hold 840 rounds of 5.56 each (about). I've gotten 1000 in a can with careful packing. The 30MM cans (double height 50 cal) will hold about 1000 rounds of .308. Figure on 3 per caliber to start.
3) Reloading press (single stage or progressive)
4) Dies for each caliber owned
5) Brass
6) Powder & primers
7) Bullets (the ones that go into the brass cases, not the loaded ammo)
8) Dessicant pack
9) Common repair parts (firing pins, magazines, etc)
10) Good quality lube and cleaners (including patches and cloths)

I could add equipment to cast bullets (lead, furnace, molds, flux, etc) but that is up to the individual. Lead bullets don't go bad, they can be bought in bulk (500 count boxes) and you can store them in the basement. Powder and primers are the big issue, cool and dry is the watchword here. The basement is the best place, but not everyone's basement is 100% dry. If you do not desire to reload, cultivate a friendship with someone who does and who you trust. In a full-on emergency, trust is going to be hard to come by.

I'd maintain a stock of precious metals (besides lead and brass). Silver is probably your best bet, possibly copper. Gold is good, but the difficulty there is ease of exchange.

For archery enthusiasts, I'd presume you would need replacement parts (bow strings, cables, springs, rollers, etc) for your preferred bow or crossbow. Extra arrows/quarrels/bolts, tips and things like that. How many of each, I'm not sure. Archery projectiles are usually more easily recovered than bullets, but probably not in all cases.

SouthArk370Z · 02-27-2020, 11:54 AM

You can find lots of barely used camping equipment at garage sales. People buy a bunch of camping stuff and then decide they don't like camping. One of my buddies has 7-8 tents that he's bought for $5-20 ea. He and I have a lot of Coleman stoves, lanterns, and heaters that we picked up cheap (they are very easy to rebuild and parts are readily available, even for units dating back to the 1950s).

Another tip: If you are using mantled lanterns (eg, the ubiquitous Coleman lantern), get the Thorium impregnated mantles. They are much brighter and whiter than other mantles.

Chuck33079 · 02-27-2020, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z

Fixed that for ya.

Either way, I'm good. Either I just ended up with a bunch of food and water, or I don't need food and water any more.

SouthArk370Z · 02-27-2020, 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Either way, I'm good. Either I just ended up with a bunch of food and water, or I don't need food and water any more.

SouthArk370Z · 02-27-2020, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghostvette

... 2) Military 50 cal cans or larger. The 50 cal cans will hold 840 rounds of 5.56 each (about). I've gotten 1000 in a can with careful packing. The 30MM cans (double height 50 cal) will hold about 1000 rounds of .308. Figure on 3 per caliber to start.

Great idea. I use plastic ammo cans with o-ring seals on the lids (most of them are made by Flambeau). Throw some ammo and a desiccant pack in there and I'm good to go. I also have some .50 cal ammo boxes but they are heavier and harder to open than the plastic boxes so they are used mainly for tools and spare parts.

Ghostvette · 02-27-2020, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z

Great idea. I use plastic ammo cans with o-ring seals on the lids (most of them are made by Flambeau). Throw some ammo and a desiccant pack in there and I'm good to go. I also have some .50 cal ammo boxes but they are heavier and harder to open than the plastic boxes so they are used mainly for tools and spare parts.

I like to take factory ammo out of the cardboard boxes and put them in plastic boxes for storage. I'll tear an end flap off the box and put inside the plastic box. Cardboard tends to attract bugs and water.

I used a large Sharpie to write the caliber on the ammo can flap.

bunk · 02-27-2020, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z

Great idea. I use plastic ammo cans with o-ring seals on the lids (most of them are made by Flambeau). Throw some ammo and a desiccant pack in there and I'm good to go. I also have some .50 cal ammo boxes but they are heavier and harder to open than the plastic boxes so they are used mainly for tools and spare parts.

I pick up surplus 50 cal boxes for like 5 bucks each at gun shows. Not a big fan of the plastic ones.

bunk · 02-27-2020, 12:32 PM

Other things to consider to have on hand:

P38 Can opener on every key ring
Full gas tanks and perhaps a jerry can or two of fuel
Cash and/or gold/silver

Rusty · 02-27-2020, 12:49 PM

Don't tell everyone in the neighborhood of what you have. Only a select few. Otherwise you will have everyone beating on your front door when something happens.

Rusty · 02-27-2020, 12:51 PM

Remember the 3's. 3 minutes without air. 3 days without water. 3 weeks without food.

BettyZ · 02-27-2020, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty

Remember the 3's. 3 minutes without air. 3 days without water. 3 weeks without food.

Lol any suggestions on mitigating the 3 minutes without air?

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BettyZ · 02-27-2020, 01:53 PM

Really shouldn't have to be said in this forum - aside from JAR - but make sure your vehicles are in proper running order.

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02-27-2020, 10:55 AM	#1 (permalink)
SouthArk370Z Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 8,435 Drives: 2014 Challenger Rep Power: 324198	Emergency Preparedness / Prepping The Coronavirus thread has evolved into a "prepping" thread so I thought we could move out of that thread. Post your hints, tips, and suggestions for surviving after a natural disaster or all-out SHTF. To kick thing off: 1) Plan ahead. Trying to obtain food, water, etc when a catastrophe hits is going to be very difficult - you'll be competing for limited resources with everyone else. 2) People can survive for weeks without food but only 2-3 days without water. Food is important but water is even more so. 3) You will need some shelter. Hopefully, your home will be livable but keep a tent or other lodging handy. 4) You need to have some means of providing heat during those disasters that happen in cold weather. 5) Lighting (flashlights, lanterns) is more important than many people realize. Keep a good supply of batteries, fuel, etc. 6) You'll probably want to heat up or cook some food so have a portable stove on hand. Coleman has stoves that will run on gasoline or propane. cv129, Rusty and old guy like this. __________________ Steering Lock Links - Search The370Z Bookmarklet - FSM @ NICOclub Mankind has progressed past the need for war but we haven't evolved that far. - NachoMahma Last edited by SouthArk370Z; 02-27-2020 at 11:44 AM.

02-27-2020, 11:37 AM	#2 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29538	Ammo, dude. I can't take your ammo with my food or water, but I damn sure can take your food and water with my ammo. SouthArk370Z, Rusty, Ghostvette and 5 others like this. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

02-27-2020, 11:45 AM	#4 (permalink)
Ghostvette A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Shawnee KS Posts: 5,698 Drives: 15 Magma Red 6MT Rep Power: 2684377	To expand: (mostly this is full on SHTF stuff) If you own firearms: 1) 2000 rounds per caliber owned. (minimum) 2) Military 50 cal cans or larger. The 50 cal cans will hold 840 rounds of 5.56 each (about). I've gotten 1000 in a can with careful packing. The 30MM cans (double height 50 cal) will hold about 1000 rounds of .308. Figure on 3 per caliber to start. 3) Reloading press (single stage or progressive) 4) Dies for each caliber owned 5) Brass 6) Powder & primers 7) Bullets (the ones that go into the brass cases, not the loaded ammo) 8) Dessicant pack 9) Common repair parts (firing pins, magazines, etc) 10) Good quality lube and cleaners (including patches and cloths) I could add equipment to cast bullets (lead, furnace, molds, flux, etc) but that is up to the individual. Lead bullets don't go bad, they can be bought in bulk (500 count boxes) and you can store them in the basement. Powder and primers are the big issue, cool and dry is the watchword here. The basement is the best place, but not everyone's basement is 100% dry. If you do not desire to reload, cultivate a friendship with someone who does and who you trust. In a full-on emergency, trust is going to be hard to come by. I'd maintain a stock of precious metals (besides lead and brass). Silver is probably your best bet, possibly copper. Gold is good, but the difficulty there is ease of exchange. For archery enthusiasts, I'd presume you would need replacement parts (bow strings, cables, springs, rollers, etc) for your preferred bow or crossbow. Extra arrows/quarrels/bolts, tips and things like that. How many of each, I'm not sure. Archery projectiles are usually more easily recovered than bullets, but probably not in all cases. SouthArk370Z, Rusty, old guy and 1 others like this. __________________ 2015 Magma Red 6MT Sport Tech/2012 Fairlady MB 6MT Base (RIP 08032018)https://www.nicoclub.com/FSM/370Z/Coupe/

02-27-2020, 11:54 AM	#5 (permalink)
SouthArk370Z Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 8,435 Drives: 2014 Challenger Rep Power: 324198	You can find lots of barely used camping equipment at garage sales. People buy a bunch of camping stuff and then decide they don't like camping. One of my buddies has 7-8 tents that he's bought for $5-20 ea. He and I have a lot of Coleman stoves, lanterns, and heaters that we picked up cheap (they are very easy to rebuild and parts are readily available, even for units dating back to the 1950s). Another tip: If you are using mantled lanterns (eg, the ubiquitous Coleman lantern), get the Thorium impregnated mantles. They are much brighter and whiter than other mantles. Rusty and BettyZ like this. __________________ Steering Lock Links - Search The370Z Bookmarklet - FSM @ NICOclub Mankind has progressed past the need for war but we haven't evolved that far. - NachoMahma

02-27-2020, 12:32 PM	#11 (permalink)
bunk A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Southern California Posts: 4,077 Drives: 2010 370z Roadster Rep Power: 2684369	Other things to consider to have on hand: P38 Can opener on every key ring Full gas tanks and perhaps a jerry can or two of fuel Cash and/or gold/silver SouthArk370Z, Rusty, vtec to vvel and 1 others like this. __________________ -Drop in K&N Filter -Invidia Gemini CBE -Z1 Oil Cooler -Swift Springs - EcuTek -Forgestar F14 -SPL Camber Links -Akebono BBK Upgrade -Z1 Premium SS Lines -SPL Diff Bushings -SPL FUCAs - BellRaceworks Diff Brace

02-27-2020, 12:49 PM	#12 (permalink)
Rusty Ronin Samurai - Assassin Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky Age: 68 Posts: 35,177 Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M Rep Power: 2684437	Don't tell everyone in the neighborhood of what you have. Only a select few. Otherwise you will have everyone beating on your front door when something happens. SouthArk370Z, Ghostvette, vtec to vvel and 2 others like this. __________________ 浪人 - 殺し屋 "The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only" http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html

02-27-2020, 12:51 PM	#13 (permalink)
Rusty Ronin Samurai - Assassin Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky Age: 68 Posts: 35,177 Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M Rep Power: 2684437	Remember the 3's. 3 minutes without air. 3 days without water. 3 weeks without food. vtec to vvel, old guy, wideglideleon and 1 others like this. __________________ 浪人 - 殺し屋 "The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only" http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html

02-27-2020, 01:53 PM	#15 (permalink)
BettyZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Chicagoland Age: 37 Posts: 5,261 Drives: A Garage Queen Rep Power: 2684371	Really shouldn't have to be said in this forum - aside from JAR - but make sure your vehicles are in proper running order. Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk SouthArk370Z, JARblue, Rusty and 1 others like this. __________________ '14 MB Nismo \| Boost Lab 6870 1.32 AR 553 HP / 471 ft.-lbs. Betty Mods

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