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Old 04-20-2020, 11:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Better yet, when you get to the point that you can't afford food. Your kids are hungry and crying. The virus won't matter, you will just want to go back to work. That is where we are headed.
No modern society is close to that reality. Africa yes. Europe, Asia and US not close. 2 more weeks etc of lock down would not and will not end the world. From the things i read most people in major countries respect and support social distancing and closure to gain control of the pandemic.

When your child gains the virus and dies when its preventable than you might think differently. Science is the answer to this situation not politics. Read the history of 1918 pandemic. The answers and techniques used worked and do today. Its science not fear mongering.
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If you are working and have money coming in and have health insurance. good for you. I'm looking at my neighbors with no income, no health insurance, about ready to lose their homes. If they lose their homes. Can they move in with you guys? You are going to see a massive amount of personal bankruptcies in the coming months. Things go on into June. You will see robberies sky rocket. People torching their cars for insurance money. This will be a repeat of the early 1980''s when the steel mills and coal mines closed up here.
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If you are working and have money coming in and have health insurance. good for you. I'm looking at my neighbors with no income, no health insurance, about ready to lose their homes. If they lose their homes. Can they move in with you guys? You are going to see a massive amount of personal bankruptcies in the coming months. Things go on into June. You will see robberies sky rocket. People torching their cars for insurance money. This will be a repeat of the early 1980''s when the steel mills and coal mines closed up here.
If they paid their taxes, they get 40-50% pay + $600 a week. For folks making less than $20 an hour, they are going to pretty much get equal pay.
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If they paid their taxes, they get 40-50% pay + $600 a week. For folks making less than $20 an hour, they are going to pretty much get equal pay.
Not for contract workers. They get nothing. No unemployment or the $600 a week. Wife's sister and husband are in this boat. They have their shoes off plugging holes best they can. Daughter get's $75 a week for unemployment. She is also a college student. So much for the car payment. Not happening. If I was to go on unemployment that would be a joke. Not even close to paying half of my bills. Most professional folks would fall into this category.

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Not for contract workers. They get nothing. No unemployment or the $600 a week. Wife's sister and husband are in this boat. They have their shoes off plugging holes best they can. Daughter get's $75 a week for unemployment. She is also a college student. So much for the car payment. Not happening. If I was to go on unemployment that would be a joke. Not even close to paying half of my bills. Most professional folks would fall into this category.
Contract workers are absolutely included
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If they paid their taxes, they get 40-50% pay + $600 a week. For folks making less than $20 an hour, they are going to pretty much get equal pay.
What state you live in? Unemployment here here is $600 max rate for 26 weeks. Most won't make that. Toss the gov't money on top of that. How is that going to replace the money that some are 6 figure incomes? That's over $10,000 a month. When your standard of living was based on that income. You have bills to match. The house, cars, kids college, etc.
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Local news this morning. Police are investigating a raise in armed robberies.
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A new study from Stanford Uni. A lot more have the virus then thought.

https://www.foxnews.com/health/coron...ounty-infected
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This is to be expected as testing evolves and ramps up. Findings are interesting, but should be expected. This is why the mortality rate is being blown up right now, because it's only being compared against known cases. As the numbers of these rise (confirmed cases/likely those having been exposed to the virus rises), the mortality rate is likely to drop.
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I hope for the sake of the robbers they don't show up at your place, Russ. They'd be collecting what's left using a shovel and a trash bin.
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If you are working and have money coming in and have health insurance. good for you. I'm looking at my neighbors with no income, no health insurance, about ready to lose their homes. If they lose their homes. Can they move in with you guys? You are going to see a massive amount of personal bankruptcies in the coming months. Things go on into June. You will see robberies sky rocket. People torching their cars for insurance money. This will be a repeat of the early 1980''s when the steel mills and coal mines closed up here.
This. I do not doubt for a moment that you are correct. Like I said yesterday, this heralds unprecedented economic collapse. It's madness that it's gone so quickly from normalcy to this state, and shows the fragility of the system to which we belong.
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Did German go into shelter in place? I believe they did? I think you guys have enough test kits and medical equipment to start opening back up right?
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