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Old 04-19-2020, 10:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Talking to a neighbor today. She's a nurse at the local hospital. 1/4 of the staff has been laid off. Said that a lot of the other hospitals have staff laid off too.


Smart, yeah let's cut off the jobs that are probably the most essential with this sh!t….
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Smart, yeah let's cut off the jobs that are probably the most essential with this sh!t….
Depends on why they were laid off I suppose. If they're unionized and don't have proper PPE, then maybe it makes sense.
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Depends on why they were laid off I suppose. If they're unionized and don't have proper PPE, then maybe it makes sense.
Not having the proper PPE is one thing, though I'm not sure why a hospital wouldn't have this, but to lay off bc of a union? Trained and educated medical staff to save lives, but get laid off for BS situations lmao
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Depends on why they were laid off I suppose. If they're unionized and don't have proper PPE, then maybe it makes sense.
It is because of them unable to do elective surgeries from what I read. Who knows. Working for a hospital is horrible from what some RN's have told me.
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Personally, I am sick of all this. I naturally social distance. The economy is going to hell, folks are loosing everything. Time to go back to work. The USA can't afford this much longer.
My opinion is that China needs to be held accountable.
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Personally, I am sick of all this. I naturally social distance. The economy is going to hell, folks are loosing everything. Time to go back to work. The USA can't afford this much longer.
I do too, but what do we get for rushing back to work while the virus is still raging and untreatable. A few more weeks of paycheck before everyone either get sick or they shut it down? The waiter at the diner will still be unemployed, the restaurant will still be empty and the mall will not have enough traffic to sustain itself. You literally have the same problem as we do right now except for more sick people. You might say you won’t spread it to anybody. That’s great. Well Leslie down the street might not be as consider or as smart as you are.
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US had been underinvesting in the healthcare system for years, they also outsourced these essentials to China for the sake of saving money. Now it is coming back to bite them hard. We can start working when we bring the numbers down and have masks ventilators and PPE for the hospital workers.
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Exactly, some folks talk like the government is trying to wreck the economy on purpose. They did it because they have no choice. If anything, they had to overreact after not doing anything for a month as they couldn’t spoof the market.
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Exactly, some folks talk like the government is trying to wreck the economy on purpose. They did it because they have no choice. If anything, they had to overreact after not doing anything for a month as they couldn’t spoof the market.
Given the impact of economic realities on the political process, it does seem very unlikely to me that any governor went into this willingly sabotaging their state. They are aware that their chances of reelection hinge upon their perceived competence in the midst of this crisis. Perceived competence, in turn, is often linked to the financial prosperity of the constituency.
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Given the impact of economic realities on the political process, it does seem very unlikely to me that any governor went into this willingly sabotaging their state. They are aware that their chances of reelection hinge upon their perceived competence in the midst of this crisis. Perceived competence, in turn, is often always linked to the financial prosperity of the constituency.
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Given the impact of economic realities on the political process, it does seem very unlikely to me that any governor went into this willingly sabotaging their state. They are aware that their chances of reelection hinge upon their perceived competence in the midst of this crisis. Perceived competence, in turn, is often linked to the financial prosperity of the constituency.
But if you look at it on a national level and in our current political environment, it CAN very well be said that the hype of the corona virus is being amplified to put fear in people. Close the economy = ruin the economy (which it already is for generations to come). So close to a presidential election.

Like you said "their chances of reelection hinge upon their perceived competence in the midst of this crisis". Nothing but negative reports on the Administration from MSM. Its political.
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But if you look at it on a national level and in our current political environment, it CAN very well be said that the hype of the corona virus is being amplified to put fear in people. Close the economy = ruin the economy (which it already is for generations to come). So close to a presidential election.

Like you said "their chances of reelection hinge upon their perceived competence in the midst of this crisis". Nothing but negative reports on the Administration from MSM. Its political.
You're debating an issue I didn't raise, deliberately. I'd rather keep the peace here, and tackle politics only as a concept, as opposed to attacking an individual party. I assure you that if I felt there would be any benefit in discussion, I'd participate quite ably - and I do not favor either the current administration, nor the one prior to it.

Suffice it to say that it would be naive at this point to assume that either party will not use this crisis (or any other) for whatever political gain they can scrounge from the wreckage.
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You're debating an issue I didn't raise, deliberately. I'd rather keep the peace here, and tackle politics only as a concept, as opposed to attacking an individual party. I assure you that if I felt there would be any benefit in discussion, I'd participate quite ably - and I do not favor either the current administration, nor the one prior to it.

Suffice it to say that it would be naive at this point to assume that either party will not use this crisis (or any other) for whatever political gain they can scrounge from the wreckage.
I wasnt insinuating that you were referring to the issue on a national level, but I think thats relevant in the discussion of whether or not to keep the lockdown in place, or to what extent this should continue.
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But if you look at it on a national level and in our current political environment, it CAN very well be said that the hype of the corona virus is being amplified to put fear in people. Close the economy = ruin the economy (which it already is for generations to come). So close to a presidential election.

Like you said "their chances of reelection hinge upon their perceived competence in the midst of this crisis". Nothing but negative reports on the Administration from MSM. Its political.
Yup there is a bi-partisan effort to stop the economy, print out bunch of money, put 10% of the workforce out of work. They did it because they won the 2020 election.

The Wuhan virus is nothing more than the common flu, the images from Italy, Spain, China are deep fakes too right?

Do people actually believe this $hit?
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Yup there is a bi-partisan effort to stop the economy, print out bunch of money, put 10% of the workforce out of work. They did it because they won the 2020 election.

The Wuhan virus is nothing more than the common flu, the images from Italy, Spain, China are deep fakes too right?

Do people actually believe this $hit?
Scary to think that some (many?) probably do!

No doubt that erring on the side of caution, and fear, is the right thing to do. Especially when you see people congregating en masse in NYC early in, only blocks away from where refrigerated trailers were being filled as temporary morgues. Some people, one has to hit more than once with an iron frying pan in order to get the point across. Unfortunately, those more considerate types are collateral damage as rules address the lowest common denominator.

I honestly don't see many bars, clubs, small restaurants coming out of this. Here, unofficially, radio stations who sponsor concerts are generally saying not to expect tours to re-start until summer or fall of 2021. So promoters, and all of the infrastructures (from venues to security to rentals to advertising) will be affected.

It will be very interesting to see how sporting events are handled. Playing to closed houses isn't the same. And there are still large numbers of support people required to stage televised sporting events, for whom social distancing is not possible. I doubt many teams want to risk their expensive players for unknown rewards, either.
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