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SouthArk370Z · 03-30-2020, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

For all the people that say it is against the constitution to shut down a states boarder I say BS. It happens all the time when/if we have a Hurricane. Now it is shut down due to the Corona Virus outbreak.

After a hurricane (or other disaster), only a region is blocked off and it's everyone (except emergency workers) being excluded. Some of the states are trying to block off the whole state to people from specific other states (eg, FL banning NYers). I'm all for severely limiting interstate travel at this time but it may require martial law to override the right to freely travel. SCOTUS will probably have to get involved.

Spooler · 03-30-2020, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z

After a hurricane (or other disaster), only a region is blocked off and it's everyone (except emergency workers) being excluded. Some of the states are trying to block off the whole state to people from specific other states (eg, FL banning NYers). I'm all for severely limiting interstate travel at this time but it may require martial law to override the right to freely travel. SCOTUS will probably have to get involved.

The problem is they are backing up in Georgia, all the way to Savannah. I am watching the case count closely in this area. It is where I work but I haven't been there in over 2 weeks. Working from home. No way in hell would I go to a gas station off the interstate. We see the same type traffic pattern before and after a Hurricane.

BettyZ · 03-30-2020, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z

After a hurricane (or other disaster), only a region is blocked off and it's everyone (except emergency workers) being excluded. Some of the states are trying to block off the whole state to people from specific other states (eg, FL banning NYers). I'm all for severely limiting interstate travel at this time but it may require martial law to override the right to freely travel. SCOTUS will probably have to get involved.

Agreed. States cannot close their borders to citizens of other states. Full stop. That is both a Constitutional right of the citizenry, and an unconstitutional act between states.

The federal gov't likely has the right to enforce state border closures with federal troops. Not under the Insurrection Act, but via public health concerns.

These things matter. Rhode Island has National Guard conducting door-to-door searches of private property, without a warrant, for persons from NY. If that doesn't scare the hell out of you, it should.

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JARblue · 03-30-2020, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by BettyZ

These things matter. Rhode Island has National Guard conducting door-to-door searches of private property, without a warrant, for persons from NY. If that doesn't scare the hell out of you, it should.

Simply knocking on doors does not require a warrant. Assuming that's what they are doing. I want to know what happens when they knock and the person who answers says there is no one from NY in the house. Do they accept that answer and move on? Or are they actually performing warrant-less searches inside the domicile without the home owner's permission?

Spooler · 03-30-2020, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by BettyZ

Agreed. States cannot close their borders to citizens of other states. Full stop. That is both a Constitutional right of the citizenry, and an unconstitutional act between states.

The federal gov't likely has the right to enforce state border closures with federal troops. Not under the Insurrection Act, but via public health concerns.

These things matter. Rhode Island has National Guard conducting door-to-door searches of private property, without a warrant, for persons from NY. If that doesn't scare the hell out of you, it should.

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LOL, this happens all the time when we have Hurricanes. The boarder get's shut down to Florida and all the exits on the Georgia side get closed and only allow local traffic. It is done by the State patrols, NO National Guard. That crap is stepping over the line.