CoronaVirus

Rusty

Trump said something about putting UV light into the human body. The MSM went nuts over it. Said that it can't be done. Well, there is a company in Colorado working on such a thing. The company posted a video on YouTube and on Twitter. Guess what. YouTube took down the video and Twitter suspended the account. There's you 1st Amendment being ripped up. They only want you to see and hear one side.

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bunk

Absolutely. That company is working with Cedar Sinai (I used to work for them..woo! lol) on that research.
But going back to Trumps comments being held as medical advice...well, if you are taking medical advice from ANY President (ie,ingesting aquarium cleaner, even though Trump did not mention aquarium cleaner), then I think youve got bigger problems.

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ZontheRocks

He’s the leader of the free world, saying whatever he wants about whatever he wants. To have random internet commentary say “you shouldn’t be listening to the President, he’s not a doctor” is a problem. Where are HIS experts following up behind him to clarify what should be trusted as fact vs bogus vs sarcasm....

And please inform me about what the administration has done properly during this time?

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ZontheRocks

It’s not that all will die. It’s that there will be people that will die that would not have died if they never got the virus. Having a pre-existing condition might not kill you on its own, but the chances of complication dramatically increase when exposed to this virus. Or TB or pneumonia, etc.

Limiting exposure is the first step in containing and controlling the spread of the virus. We already know not everybody dies from it. Does not mean we expose all to it just because.

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bunk

Dont get me wrong,, Im not trying to downplay the lethality of covid. It definately is deadly. But so is the common FLU, and we never had to go on lockdown with the flu even though annual deaths in the US alone sometimes reach 60k.
Im just saying that people lives are being destroyed due to inflated/exagerated numbers.

Its MSM that keeps the fear in peoples minds Its either TRUMP BAD, or LOOK, COVID IS SCARY.... they never report on the progress f vaccines being developed, or give credit to what the administration HAS done right

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geeteezee

It's not the total numbers you should be looking at, it's the rate of infection, which is much higher than the flu. Add to that the higher mortality rate.

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NecioVato

Personally - I don't think any Prez would be prepared to handle this. Since this virus is a 'moving target'; information is being changed by the day. To me, Trump's handlers have to keep him from talking and going off on tangents; we all see that he is trying to project leadership yet contradicts what the 'experts' are saying. The spit balling should be done within his own inner circle - not during a press conference. At this time - it's best to just let the experts talk and try to come up with a game plan about how we will open up the country.

As for opening up the country - personally I think we can't wait for a vaccine - bc projections in EU are like mid September - if we continue to just stay inside the economy will be crushed; I don't know what the answer is but I thought I saw a report that they project that 1/4 in NYC have been exposed and probably had it etc. Sweden is doing the whole 'herd mentality' and i might be wrong - but i thought our percentages were similar to theirs?

Spooler

This is concerning.....

geeteezee

Sounds like a win/win to me, haha. I couldn't watch any more after that line.

Also, many don't take into account social distancing, plus the myriad of other steps taken to combat this virus. All of this prevention yet we're still seeing higher transmission and mortality rates with Covid as compared to the flu.

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bunk

Did you watch the video I posted earlier? If you cant have an open mind to other ideas and just dismiss them, then there is no conversation.

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geeteezee

Was that the 2 doctors from California? I didn't get a chance to unfortunately, and it's since been taken down. From what I've read, their statistics are quite skewed however.

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Not Elon Musk getting arsenal?


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ZCanadian

Blame certainly does not rest on any one person's shoulders.
No question that every move comes under scrutiny, and that there is a huge difference between making important decisions regarding the future in a partial vacuum, and armchair quarterbacking them with the benefit of hindsight.

But sometimes a crisis is caused or worsened by the actions which precede it as well as by those taken to address it.

And it is in situations like these, that the true mettle of leaders is exposed.

Does it hurt to wish for a Churchill or FDR right about now?

NecioVato

I definitely agree, the 'experts' will have hindsight to then tell us and the Prez what they did right/wrong. But in the end, we are doing what we feel is best. For me, I just wish Trump would stop with all the tweets about 'Fighting for your liberation' and the spit balling within the conference.

Its like 'you have experts who you can turn to'; just do that and if it goes sideways - people will blame the experts, not the Prez for problem since it would only make sense to trust those that are smarter/experts. Like they say, you never WANT to be the SMARTEST man in the room when it comes to things that you are not aware of how it works etc.

As for wishing for a FDR or Churchill - yeah, that would be nice haha. To me the sad thing is that there is so much dissension and mistrust of the govt, the media etc - that we can't all get on the same page and try to be ONE nation instead of fragments and 'groups'. I swear its like we are cheering our own sports team against our hated rival -- not realizing that everything that is done affects us ALL (we're all on the same boat). Well 'off the soap box, sorry haha'; I just can't wait for this sh!t to be over with and things go back to 'somewhat normal' (whatever that is).

cossie1600

Bunk, do you just take everything off the conservative websites? I understand you might not want to get it from the super liberal sites, but can it be any other outside of the conservative talking points? Geez