CoronaVirus

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If you dont think corona virus is being used as a political tool, youve got blinders on.

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Someone pointed out that the common cold is a coronavirus. That is true to some extent, some common colds are caused by one of the coronavirus family, but most are caused by the family of rhinovirus.

Covid-19 is caused by SARS-COV-2, which is just as if not more infectious and far more deadly - it’s mortality rate as yet known is much higher than influenza.

Just imagine if we were all allowed to just go on as normal, you caught it and then infected a loved one who then died as a result. How would you feel? I said to someone on another forum who was bleating that he couldn’t go to the pub. Imagine he did, took it home and killed his whole family - it’s pretty selfish and ignorant to think the health and medical experts are wrong.


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FL 4Motion

Stupid rhinos.

DLSTR

US numbers are crazy - U.S. 41,379 dead 776,513 total cases
All in a few weeks. I want no part of such a mess to catch this virus or give to others. None

cossie1600

The race thing has already been debunked by the level of infection in Middle East and Europe. Here is the sad part. How many TRUE cases are there in countries that are not developed or we are not talking about. There's been a lot of cover ups by many countries, some are worse than others. The lying is another reason why we are getting f-ed over.

ZCanadian

Keep in mind that US numbers have been questioned as well. And with only a little over 1% of the population having been tested, the true picture is not yet known.

Our numbers are not any clearer here. Many locations including Canada are testing largely on suspicion (for diagnosis), not the general population. Only small countries and the very rich (Gulf States) have tested better than 10% of their people.

In Italy, between the chaos and the fact that anyone not confirmed as Coronavirus positive before death did not make the count, has lead some health officials to suggest that the final death toll could be 4x the current count. Let me just repeat that - there might have been upwards of 4,000 people a day dying of this in Italy at the peak.

The biggest takeaway from up here is to protect your most vulnerable. Race is likely not (directly) a factor, but age and prior health appear to be. Lock down your nursing homes, lobby that their staff do not also work at multiple homes or hospitals, and isolate your vulnerable loved ones. These are the dry tinder stoking this fire, that even social distancing cannot help.

cossie1600

Oh yeah, I am not saying the general rate. I am simply saying the virus is not racist, it will hit every human. The older male demo do seem to be hit the hardest, so boomers, watch out.

The nursing part is sad. My boss' mom is in assisted living, which is close to a nursing home. I asked if they were put in a lockdown, she said you just have to sign a waiver to check her in and out. I am like what if my boss was a carrier and she gave it to her mom. Her mom can wipe the entire population out! Do they not know you can be a carrier without symptoms.
It's bizarre.

ZCanadian

My father is in a home, in his 90's with Parkinson's. I live that fear.

They locked down 3+ weeks ago (and screened for a couple of weeks before that, but the screening was not useful). And the government has changed rules so that the staff cannot move from home to home anymore. As we haven't seen the surge in hospitalizations expected (yet), they have diverted medical staff to help at homes (as where you are, elective surgeries have been cancelled, freeing up nurses).

So far no cases in his nursing home, but 29 others in my province do, with lots of dead. Still, the management has sent a letter home that basically says "prepare for the worst". Treatment of the elderly and frail is not effective, and hospitals have said that they will refuse nursing home transfers if they are under strain. So far, that hasn't happened here either. Fingers crossed.

Rusty

Tell you what happened in the nursing homes, and why they get hit so hard. Family member comes into a nursing home with the virus before SHTF. Infects family member in the home. They get sick and the nursing home sending them to the hospital. Hospital keeps them for a few days and ships them back to the nursing home. Now the whole nursing home is infected. This happened at the nursing home that my sister inlaw works at.

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Spooler

If you guys want to see what the Great Depression was like you may get that chance. If we don't go back to work, that will be what happens is my guess. It will make the downward turn in 2008-2009 look like a walk in the park.

Spooler

Better yet, when you get to the point that you can't afford food. Your kids are hungry and crying. The virus won't matter, you will just want to go back to work. That is where we are headed.

DLSTR

No modern society is close to that reality. Africa yes. Europe, Asia and US not close. 2 more weeks etc of lock down would not and will not end the world. From the things i read most people in major countries respect and support social distancing and closure to gain control of the pandemic.

When your child gains the virus and dies when its preventable than you might think differently. Science is the answer to this situation not politics. Read the history of 1918 pandemic. The answers and techniques used worked and do today. Its science not fear mongering.

Rusty

If you are working and have money coming in and have health insurance. good for you. I'm looking at my neighbors with no income, no health insurance, about ready to lose their homes. If they lose their homes. Can they move in with you guys? You are going to see a massive amount of personal bankruptcies in the coming months. Things go on into June. You will see robberies sky rocket. People torching their cars for insurance money. This will be a repeat of the early 1980''s when the steel mills and coal mines closed up here.

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cossie1600

If they paid their taxes, they get 40-50% pay + $600 a week. For folks making less than $20 an hour, they are going to pretty much get equal pay.

Spooler

Not for contract workers. They get nothing. No unemployment or the $600 a week. Wife's sister and husband are in this boat. They have their shoes off plugging holes best they can. Daughter get's $75 a week for unemployment. She is also a college student. So much for the car payment. Not happening. If I was to go on unemployment that would be a joke. Not even close to paying half of my bills. Most professional folks would fall into this category.