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Originally Posted by bunk Do you remember what happened during the Korean war? The US chased the NK Army up to the Chinese border, thinking that the Chinese wouldnt react.

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Old 04-01-2020, 05:15 PM   #1081 (permalink)
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Do you remember what happened during the Korean war? The US chased the NK Army up to the Chinese border, thinking that the Chinese wouldnt react. Well, they did. Then the US Commanders dismissed the Chinese as simple farmers with rag tag equipment. Well, they sure did give the US Military a run for their money. Yes it was primarily due to their overwhelming numbers, but today, the PLA is fast modernizing their forces. And you cannot discount their indoctrinated mentality (See Japan, Germany in WW2, even your modern Islamic Terrorists)

The reason China isnt going all out invading countries is not because they dont have the strength, but for geo political consequences. Same reason why we dont just take the Spratly Islands from them


MacArthur in his arrogance led the UN forces into a trap at Chosin Reservoir, and the Marines led the breakout to the port at Hungnam. In the process, the 1st Marine Division mauled 10 ChiCom divisions so bad, they were never seen in combat again.
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I only hope that our nation has the sense to block them out of the 5G build here, although several of our carriers here have signed expressions of interest to proceed with Huawei. We have a more unique situation than you down there - a larger land mass to cover (and 5G infrastructure is expensive from what I understand - much more cells than 4G / LTE), but 1/10 the population to pay for it. I think that China sees this as their way to buy off our nation in a manner not that dissimilar to their approach in sub-Saharan Africa.
It would be wise. They are up to no good, that is for sure.
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We should be cautious quoting an article we have read as fact since much of it still scientific conjecture at the moment.

I have currently heard. It affects Asian men more than anyone because they tend to smoke more. Or smoking also prevents the S protein of the virus bonding with ACE2 receptors, so complete opposites.

Viruses mutate so that may explain many things differing in other countries, the UK hasn’t had it as bad yet as mainland Europe.
What we must do is not become complacent, social distancing is still probably our best bet.

The UK government did think about using the Herd immunity method by then when given the mortality model when 60 % of the population being infected which is what is required for the herd immunity method, decided it was a very very bad idea.

Belarus are just saying drink vodka, but then that country was irradiated by Chernobyl (which didn’t happen according to the Soviets)

In the meantime let’s just have some light hearted banter

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Are you really that surprised? China have been doing that for years


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Not surprised at all. Them Chineses are inscrutable.

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I get it is very expensive, but it is a very dangerous game to let them into your country and let them turn you guys into their muppet. Europe, Canada and Australia don't have the economy to fight them off as easily as the US, but they really should try for their own good. The HK protests and the Wuhan virus are completely exposed the CCP, hopefully when all is set and done people will be done with them. Boris Johnson is regretting his decision with Huawei now, the idiot thought China was being honest about their number. He is looking like a complete moron, like usual.

I should add the past year China also got exposed pretty badly on their economy. Everyone is afraid to mess with them, but they are really not as big or as strong as you think. If anything, now it is the time to put pressure and fight back. The sad part is that a lot of politicians either have financial interest or they are so worried about the next election that they would rather sell their soul to China in order to be happy for the next 5 years.

I almost forgot about their mortgage crisis and their famous empty highrises. They are so desperate now that they are selling houses online and have suspended auditing for publicly traded stocks.....


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I'm not supporting them, or wanting to let the lady go.
I'd just wish that the extradition would get over with. And pointing out that we have taken a stand to side with law and order and our friends to the south (despite assertions from time to time that we don't).

To me, the actions taken by the Xi regime in support of the company prove the very connection that the company's founder so vehemently denies.

I only hope that our nation has the sense to block them out of the 5G build here, although several of our carriers here have signed expressions of interest to proceed with Huawei. We have a more unique situation than you down there - a larger land mass to cover (and 5G infrastructure is expensive from what I understand - much more cells than 4G / LTE), but 1/10 the population to pay for it. I think that China sees this as their way to buy off our nation in a manner not that dissimilar to their approach in sub-Saharan Africa.
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Yes, but what language is he doing it in?
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LOL, we had Jackie Gleason in "Smokey and the Bandit".
How sweet it is!
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Are you really that surprised? China have been doing that for years
This is the line from the article that I'm equally unsurprised by:

Enhancing Beijing’s role in the pandemic could be politically helpful to President Donald Trump, who has sought to shift blame for the U.S. outbreak away from his administration’s delays in achieving widespread testing for the virus and mobilizing greater production of supplies such as face masks and hospital ventilators.

So, here are the facts re China's release of information on the virus (quoting WHO situation report # 1):
• On 31 December 2019, the WHO China Country Office was informed of cases of pneumonia unknown etiology (unknown cause) detected in Wuhan City, Hubei Province of China. From 31 December 2019 through 3 January 2020, a total of 44 case-patients with pneumonia of unknown etiology were reported to WHO by the national authorities in China. During this reported period, the causal agent was not identified.
• On 11 and 12 January 2020, WHO received further detailed information from the National Health Commission China that the outbreak is associated with exposures in one seafood market in Wuhan City.
• The Chinese authorities identified a new type of coronavirus, which was isolated on 7 January 2020.
• On 12 January 2020, China shared the genetic sequence of the novel coronavirus for countries to use in developing specific diagnostic kits.
• On 13 January 2020, the Ministry of Public Health, Thailand reported the first imported case of lab-confirmed novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV) from Wuhan, Hubei Province, China.
• On 15 January 2020, the Ministry of Health, Labour and Welfare, Japan (MHLW) reported an imported case of laboratory-confirmed 2019-novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV) from Wuhan, Hubei Province, China.
• On 20 January 2020, National IHR Focal Point (NFP) for Republic of Korea reported the first case of novel coronavirus in the Republic of Korea.

I know that it is natural to believe your own leadership above other sources, and I don't argue that China did not try to hide or falsify numbers, but I do trust the information above (which was published by the WHO on 20 January 2020. And MY CALENDAR shows a 2 month lag between the information that China released and the start of action of Canada and the USA. There is plenty of blame to go around, but that delay cannot be pinned on the Chinese.
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Signapore has an app that is free from the Ministry of Health. It is a voluntary download and tracks anonymous movement and contact with others. Can choose to report if you have the virus and the app notifies the recent contacts. Takes some trust in government, but it's clearly working for them. Not sure it could pass in this country...
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Yes, but what language is he doing it in?
Dude, WTH. Watch this. Canadian with WHO refused to even acknowledge Taiwain. Watch it.


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As if this all wasn't terrifying enough already, it appears corona also can cause severe brain damage.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/01/h...gtype=Homepage

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