CoronaVirus

cv129 · 03-02-2020, 11:49 PM

And one more thing....among the more modern economies, big developed country, I can’t name one ruling body that can violate human rights the way Chinese government can.

Overnight, it can order a stop to an entire city...below things were done in a large scale...

All factory shuts down
All citizens stay home.
Police nailed boards to residential buildings entrances/exits to lock people in.
Restricting info outflow. Anybody attempting to report and record the truth disappears. Any recording evidences get erased (except for some IT savvy enough to bypass blockage to post videos to dark webs or western websites)

Don’t even get me started in the mortality rate....the funeral home workers in those heavily hit area are working OT on top of OT cremating dead bodies. There are dead bodies without cause of death being identified simply because there wasn’t enough coroners or time (there’s a newly imposed time limit of like 1.5 hrs from death @ hospital to picked up by funeral home worker).

So with all that said....with the extreme measures and cover up, this thing still blew up in China, so bad that citizens are getting outraged.

I have two little ones, I hope to god things get contained in US. But there’s no cure to virus (unlike bacterial infection). The only way to contain this is to be mindful, considerate and diligent. Under estimating this virus won’t do anybody any good.

Rusty · 03-03-2020, 12:10 AM

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Please don’t compare this thing to normal flu.

A recovered person does NOT generate immunity to this. One can get reinfected.
It skips “normal” sequences of symptoms, directly attack the lungs, pneumonia like symptoms, which is not fun.
This thing leaves permanent damage, scar tissues in the lung. Small patch, a healthy lung can compensate the reduced effectiveness by working harder. Big patch may need lung transplant.

We really don’t know wtf this thing is yet, nor the real long term health implications. What one wants to do is one’s choice, just don’t under estimate it.

Why take chances until it's better understood.

Rusty · 03-03-2020, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by cv129

And one more thing....among the more modern economies, big developed country, I can’t name one ruling body that can violate human rights the way Chinese government can.

Overnight, it can order a stop to an entire city...below things were done in a large scale...

All factory shuts down
All citizens stay home.
Police nailed boards to residential buildings entrances/exits to lock people in.
Restricting info outflow. Anybody attempting to report and record the truth disappears. Any recording evidences get erased (except for some IT savvy enough to bypass blockage to post videos to dark webs or western websites)

Don’t even get me started in the mortality rate....the funeral home workers in those heavily hit area are working OT on top of OT cremating dead bodies. There are dead bodies without cause of death being identified simply because there wasn’t enough coroners or time (there’s a newly imposed time limit of like 1.5 hrs from death @ hospital to picked up by funeral home worker).

So with all that said....with the extreme measures and cover up, this thing still blew up in China, so bad that citizens are getting outraged.

I have two little ones, I hope to god things get contained in US. But there’s no cure to virus (unlike bacterial infection). The only way to contain this is to be mindful, considerate and diligent. Under estimating this virus won’t do anybody any good.

To add to China's problems. Why would China quarantine 800 million people. Their population is 1.4 billion. That's over half being quarantined.

cv129 · 03-03-2020, 12:28 AM

This is election season, I understand nobody wants a mass panic.

But, if people are getting sick left and right even under those extreme measures, I would definitely not under estimate this virus now that it has spread to the US.

I was born and raised in Hong Kong. So while I was raised under heavy English and western influence, I was in close enough proximity to know how the Chinese government operates. They have tried like hell to “stop the bleeding”, human rights became nonexistent, but still couldn’t keep the virus in check. This worries me.

FL 4Motion · 03-03-2020, 01:17 AM

The Spanish flu was so deadly/bad bc it seemed to affect young healthy people worse than older people who “normally” are the ones more susceptible to the flu, also 1918 health care vs today is different.

This corona virus seems to be more like a traditional infectious disease such as seasonal flu where the elderly and those with preexisting conditions are most susceptible/ at risk of serious complications and death.

The mortality rate is around 2% but perhaps lower since a whole lot of people have most likely been infected but recovered, never were tested and only had mild to moderate symptoms aka seemed like a cold or regular flu.

It’s a serious health issue but all this panic is unwarranted and overblown. Take reasonable precautions and be smart about going in public spaces and if sick, stay home but this ain’t the Spanish flu or the bubonic plague, or Ebola.

Now if it mutates and becomes more deadly....but hopefully that doesn’t happen.

JARblue · 03-03-2020, 08:44 AM

Once healthy, middle-age people start dying in droves, then I will continue to not worry. My immune system is either good enough or it's not. Hand sanitizer is not the solution.

Ghostvette · 03-03-2020, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by cv129

And one more thing....among the more modern economies, big developed country, I can’t name one ruling body that can violate human rights the way Chinese government can.

Overnight, it can order a stop to an entire city...below things were done in a large scale...

All factory shuts down
All citizens stay home.
Police nailed boards to residential buildings entrances/exits to lock people in.
Restricting info outflow. Anybody attempting to report and record the truth disappears. Any recording evidences get erased (except for some IT savvy enough to bypass blockage to post videos to dark webs or western websites)

Don’t even get me started in the mortality rate....the funeral home workers in those heavily hit area are working OT on top of OT cremating dead bodies. There are dead bodies without cause of death being identified simply because there wasn’t enough coroners or time (there’s a newly imposed time limit of like 1.5 hrs from death @ hospital to picked up by funeral home worker).

So with all that said....with the extreme measures and cover up, this thing still blew up in China, so bad that citizens are getting outraged.

I have two little ones, I hope to god things get contained in US. But there’s no cure to virus (unlike bacterial infection). The only way to contain this is to be mindful, considerate and diligent. Under estimating this virus won’t do anybody any good.

Adding to that, the Chinese government is not allowing food shipments into the cities that are 'quarantined'.... who knows how many people died from their bioweapon or died from starvation.....The problem can be solved simply.....12 empty tubes, 144+ mushroom clouds, it's Miller time....

vtec to vvel · 03-03-2020, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

Once healthy, middle-age people start dying in droves, then I will continue to not worry. My immune system is either good enough or it's not. Hand sanitizer is not the solution.

Survival of the fittest

Rusty · 03-03-2020, 11:09 AM

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Adding to that, the Chinese government is not allowing food shipments into the cities that are 'quarantined'.... who knows how many people died from their bioweapon or died from starvation.....The problem can be solved simply.....12 empty tubes, 144+ mushroom clouds, it's Miller time....

vtec to vvel · 03-03-2020, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by cv129

The only way to contain this is to be mindful, considerate and diligent. Under estimating this virus won’t do anybody any good.

You would think. There are currently 2 cases in Florida, 1 of which is my area. From what the local news outlet reported, this person is a 20-year-old female who RECENTLY went to northern Italy and came back with the virus. Why in the world would you go to a place with a major outbreak? The virus didn't happen overnight and it's been some time since the outbreak. Furthermore, why would the US let her back into the country after visiting another country with a known issue AND having contracted the virus, and let her go about her way? The news outlet also stated she is being isolated at her home, however, this is extremely subjective. Is anyone monitoring to ensure she stays home and keeping herself isolated? This is, of course, just my thoughts and opinion (disclaimer covered).

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I was born and raised in Hong Kong. So while I was raised under heavy English and western influence

A fellow Asian. So tell me, are you experiencing any looks/racist remarks due to this sh!t? lol because I am. I was born and raised in Florida, but I guess my eyes make it seem otherwise

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Originally Posted by JARblue

Once healthy, middle-age people start dying in droves, then I will continue to not worry. My immune system is either good enough or it's not. Hand sanitizer is not the solution.

I agree, but it see this two ways. This sh!t is serious, but the media is making this into a bigger issue. IMO, I believe that nature will take its course and the survival of the fittest theory. Though I think the masks, antibacterial soaps, hand sanitizer, etc. all have an influence on the severity of how it's spread and on the suffering of the individual should they contract the virus, but at the end of the day, I also feel as if these items only provide a greater false sense of security. It's like wheel locks - they are theft-deterrent to a certain degree, but if someone really wanted your wheels, there are ways around the wheel locks. Again, this is just my thoughts and opinion (disclaimer covered).

Rusty · 03-03-2020, 08:06 PM

Just another way of mother nature thinning the herd.

Zingston · 03-03-2020, 08:16 PM

Im so over all this coronavirus bs! Please, let me be infected asap, I'll either pass ( as i could during any flu season), or my body will develop an immunity to the ×××× like its been doing since 1968. There's no way to avoid it as we'll all be exposed at some point. Cat's out the mf`ing bag. Hand sanitizers and face masks wont help. No need to live in fear, it wont help.

BettyZ · 03-03-2020, 09:05 PM

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Im so over all this coronavirus bs! Please, let me be infected asap, I'll either pass ( as i could during any flu season), or my body will develop an immunity to the ×××× like its been doing since 1968. There's no way to avoid it as we'll all be exposed at some point. Cat's out the mf`ing bag. Hand sanitizers and face masks wont help. No need to live in fear, it wont help.

But if we're not living in fear, how can we vote for whichever candidate will pander most to it?!

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Rusty · 03-03-2020, 09:13 PM

Iran is getting hit hard. 23 members of the ruling class got it. One of them is dead. One number I read said that over 200 are dead. Over hundred thousand infected. They just let the inmates out of the jails. Just the one who have less then 5 yrs to serve.

Zingston · 03-03-2020, 09:15 PM

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But if we're not living in fear, how can we vote for whichever candidate will pander most to it?!

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Not gonna matter... i aleady know who I'm voting for regardless.

03-02-2020, 11:49 PM	#181 (permalink)
cv129 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 3,237 Drives: 09 Nismo, 16 Nismo Rep Power: 163995	And one more thing....among the more modern economies, big developed country, I can’t name one ruling body that can violate human rights the way Chinese government can. Overnight, it can order a stop to an entire city...below things were done in a large scale... All factory shuts down All citizens stay home. Police nailed boards to residential buildings entrances/exits to lock people in. Restricting info outflow. Anybody attempting to report and record the truth disappears. Any recording evidences get erased (except for some IT savvy enough to bypass blockage to post videos to dark webs or western websites) Don’t even get me started in the mortality rate....the funeral home workers in those heavily hit area are working OT on top of OT cremating dead bodies. There are dead bodies without cause of death being identified simply because there wasn’t enough coroners or time (there’s a newly imposed time limit of like 1.5 hrs from death @ hospital to picked up by funeral home worker). So with all that said....with the extreme measures and cover up, this thing still blew up in China, so bad that citizens are getting outraged. I have two little ones, I hope to god things get contained in US. But there’s no cure to virus (unlike bacterial infection). The only way to contain this is to be mindful, considerate and diligent. Under estimating this virus won’t do anybody any good. JARblue, Rusty, Ghostvette and 1 others like this. __________________ Setrab \| RE-71 \| SPL \| JRZ \| Nismo \| ARK \| Whiteline \| RacingBrake \| CJM Oil Pan \| Ti shield Last edited by cv129; 03-02-2020 at 11:59 PM.

03-03-2020, 12:28 AM	#184 (permalink)
cv129 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 3,237 Drives: 09 Nismo, 16 Nismo Rep Power: 163995	This is election season, I understand nobody wants a mass panic. But, if people are getting sick left and right even under those extreme measures, I would definitely not under estimate this virus now that it has spread to the US. I was born and raised in Hong Kong. So while I was raised under heavy English and western influence, I was in close enough proximity to know how the Chinese government operates. They have tried like hell to “stop the bleeding”, human rights became nonexistent, but still couldn’t keep the virus in check. This worries me. Rusty and vtec to vvel like this. __________________ Setrab \| RE-71 \| SPL \| JRZ \| Nismo \| ARK \| Whiteline \| RacingBrake \| CJM Oil Pan \| Ti shield

03-03-2020, 01:17 AM	#185 (permalink)
FL 4Motion A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: FL Posts: 4,776 Drives: Baby Shark Rep Power: 701615	The Spanish flu was so deadly/bad bc it seemed to affect young healthy people worse than older people who “normally” are the ones more susceptible to the flu, also 1918 health care vs today is different. This corona virus seems to be more like a traditional infectious disease such as seasonal flu where the elderly and those with preexisting conditions are most susceptible/ at risk of serious complications and death. The mortality rate is around 2% but perhaps lower since a whole lot of people have most likely been infected but recovered, never were tested and only had mild to moderate symptoms aka seemed like a cold or regular flu. It’s a serious health issue but all this panic is unwarranted and overblown. Take reasonable precautions and be smart about going in public spaces and if sick, stay home but this ain’t the Spanish flu or the bubonic plague, or Ebola. Now if it mutates and becomes more deadly....but hopefully that doesn’t happen. JARblue, Spooler, sx moneypit and 5 others like this.

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JARblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Age: 43 Posts: 36,450 Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3 Rep Power: 2684440	Once healthy, middle-age people start dying in droves, then I will continue to not worry. My immune system is either good enough or it's not. Hand sanitizer is not the solution. FL 4Motion, Spooler, sx moneypit and 3 others like this. __________________ 2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic \| ARC \| CJM \| Ecutek \| FI \| Fujimura \| R2C \| SPL \| Stillen \| TWM \| Z1 \| ZSpeed \|

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Rusty Ronin Samurai - Assassin Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky Age: 68 Posts: 35,222 Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M Rep Power: 2684438	Just another way of mother nature thinning the herd. Ghostvette and Zingston like this. __________________ 浪人 - 殺し屋 "The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only" http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html

03-03-2020, 08:16 PM	#192 (permalink)
Zingston A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2017 Location: Florida Posts: 4,028 Drives: like it's a rental. Rep Power: 2684370	Im so over all this coronavirus bs! Please, let me be infected asap, I'll either pass ( as i could during any flu season), or my body will develop an immunity to the ×××× like its been doing since 1968. There's no way to avoid it as we'll all be exposed at some point. Cat's out the mf`ing bag. Hand sanitizers and face masks wont help. No need to live in fear, it wont help. FL 4Motion, Rusty, Ghostvette and 4 others like this.

03-03-2020, 09:13 PM	#194 (permalink)
Rusty Ronin Samurai - Assassin Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky Age: 68 Posts: 35,222 Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M Rep Power: 2684438	Iran is getting hit hard. 23 members of the ruling class got it. One of them is dead. One number I read said that over 200 are dead. Over hundred thousand infected. They just let the inmates out of the jails. Just the one who have less then 5 yrs to serve. __________________ 浪人 - 殺し屋 "The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only" http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html