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Rusty 04-21-2020 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 3927424)
If they paid their taxes, they get 40-50% pay + $600 a week. For folks making less than $20 an hour, they are going to pretty much get equal pay.

What state you live in? :icon14: Unemployment here here is $600 max rate for 26 weeks. Most won't make that. Toss the gov't money on top of that. How is that going to replace the money that some are 6 figure incomes? That's over $10,000 a month. When your standard of living was based on that income. You have bills to match. The house, cars, kids college, etc.

Rusty 04-21-2020 08:08 AM

Local news this morning. Police are investigating a raise in armed robberies. :icon14:

Rusty 04-21-2020 08:10 AM

A new study from Stanford Uni. A lot more have the virus then thought.

https://www.foxnews.com/health/coron...ounty-infected

DaveZ03 04-21-2020 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Zoren 370 (Post 3927487)
If indeed the Chinese created this virus out of a laboratory somewhere in the US.....

Not sure if you were serious with your assumption on this being lab created, but...

https://www.npr.org/2020/04/14/83410...-clues-in-bats

JLarson 04-21-2020 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3927496)
Local news this morning. Police are investigating a raise in armed robberies. :icon14:

I hope for the sake of the robbers they don't show up at your place, Russ. They'd be collecting what's left using a shovel and a trash bin.

DaveZ03 04-21-2020 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3927498)
A new study from Stanford Uni. A lot more have the virus then thought.

https://www.foxnews.com/health/coron...ounty-infected

This is to be expected as testing evolves and ramps up. Findings are interesting, but should be expected. This is why the mortality rate is being blown up right now, because it's only being compared against known cases. As the numbers of these rise (confirmed cases/likely those having been exposed to the virus rises), the mortality rate is likely to drop.

ZontheRocks 04-21-2020 11:50 AM

Would be nice if the government made decisions to halt required payments on mortgages, vehicle and credit card loans, water and utilities, with payments added to the end of a loan or added pro-rata over future payments.

Begin the conversation for programs for those that won't be able to get back in their jobs prior to the pandemic to address the above in the future.

cossie1600 04-21-2020 11:54 AM

No one knows what the true rate is, but forget about the mortality rate. If we talk about the infected rate, say even 2% or 3%, that's already a lot of people, especially in the span of two months.

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Originally Posted by asht (Post 3927447)
A number of us have started questioning the official figures being published by individual countries and I have to agree somewhat.

I already told you unemployment is available for contract workers. The only ones that can't are under the table people or illegal immigrants. You still haven't answer my question. Even if we didn't go into lockdown and at the rate of the infection, how many people will lose their job anyway and possibly get sick. I already told you most companies are not going to keep their doors open when employees drop like flies. They don't have big enough pockets to pay for their sick leave or the deductible for STD or LTD. STD and LTD are not full pay either.

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3927481)
LOL, do you think for one minute that folks who struggle from paycheck to paycheck have a 401k? If you can't file for unemployment, how are you going to collect the Cares act money?

Everybody looks back at the Spanish Flue outbreak for comparison in 1917. Do you remember what came next in the 1920's? It was the Great Depression.

I filed unemployment in CT. There are programs to avoid immediate problem. Tons of people already elected rent/mortgage deferrals. The whole idea is to ride this out and hope to go back to work once everything is more controlled.

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3927494)
What state you live in? :icon14: Unemployment here here is $600 max rate for 26 weeks. Most won't make that. Toss the gov't money on top of that. How is that going to replace the money that some are 6 figure incomes? That's over $10,000 a month. When your standard of living was based on that income. You have bills to match. The house, cars, kids college, etc.

The study got tore down by many experts. There were many holes in that article, but I will give you one that irks me the most. The test kit used was marketed by a Minnesota company, but it was manufactured and sold by a Chinese company. It had one of the least accurate result of any test on the market. There was also problem with the population not random and people behind it had agendas to push.

https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/04/...ll-an-apology/

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3927498)
A new study from Stanford Uni. A lot more have the virus then thought.

https://www.foxnews.com/health/coron...ounty-infected


Zoren 370 04-21-2020 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DaveZ03 (Post 3927501)
Not sure if you were serious with your assumption on this being lab created, but...

https://www.npr.org/2020/04/14/83410...-clues-in-bats

No Im not serious and honestly when someone shared me a video of a documentary that speaks about it...btw it was immediately shut down at social media.

I didn’t believe it at all...very hard to verify validity and reliability of all information at this point about covid19.

I don’t even believe the article you posted either..everything is being fabricated.

I just live my life everyday and speak thanksgiving for seeing the sun again.

Zoren 370 04-21-2020 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JLarson (Post 3927502)
I hope for the sake of the robbers they don't show up at your place, Russ. They'd be collecting what's left using a shovel and a trash bin.

Well just think about if they try to break in EW house.

They would be using DNA kits to identify the suspects as they where vaporized by EW’s toxic gas fart!

cossie1600 04-21-2020 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Zoren 370 (Post 3927569)
No Im not serious and honestly when someone shared me a video of a documentary that speaks about it...btw it was immediately shut down at social media.

I didn’t believe it at all...very hard to verify validity and reliability of all information at this point about covid19.

I don’t even believe the article you posted either..everything is being fabricated.

I just live my life everyday and speak thanksgiving for seeing the sun again.

There were already rumors of it in January. It's possible that someone bought bats that were used at the lab and ate it.

Zoren 370 04-21-2020 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 3927572)
There were already rumors of it in January. It's possible that someone bought bats that were used at the lab and ate it.

Lol thats a good theory! :tup:

cossie1600 04-21-2020 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Zoren 370 (Post 3927573)
Lol thats a good theory! :tup:

It's the CCP government, it wouldn't surprise me. The lab would use the animals, the company or person that is supposed to dispose of them decided it would be a good idea to make a few bucks at the wet market.

ZontheRocks 04-21-2020 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 3927580)
It's the CCP government, it wouldn't surprise me. The lab would use the animals, the company or person that is supposed to dispose of them decided it would be a good idea to make a few bucks at the wet market.

There is the possibility of severe lack in safety precautions and imperfect sanitation when working with an infectious disease and leaving the lab.

cossie1600 04-21-2020 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ZontheRocks (Post 3927587)
There is the possibility of severe lack in safety precautions and imperfect sanitation when working with an infectious disease and leaving the lab.

https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3919496


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