CoronaVirus

Spooler · 04-19-2020, 08:56 PM

Personally, I am sick of all this. I naturally social distance. The economy is going to hell, folks are loosing everything. Time to go back to work. The USA can't afford this much longer.

Rusty · 04-19-2020, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

Personally, I am sick of all this. I naturally social distance. The economy is going to hell, folks are loosing everything. Time to go back to work. The USA can't afford this much longer.

Talking to a neighbor today. She's a nurse at the local hospital. 1/4 of the staff has been laid off.

Said that a lot of the other hospitals have staff laid off too.

vtec to vvel · 04-19-2020, 11:13 PM

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Talking to a neighbor today. She's a nurse at the local hospital. 1/4 of the staff has been laid off. Said that a lot of the other hospitals have staff laid off too.

Smart, yeah let's cut off the jobs that are probably the most essential with this sh!t….

vtec to vvel · 04-19-2020, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

Personally, I am sick of all this. I naturally social distance. The economy is going to hell, folks are loosing everything. Time to go back to work. The USA can't afford this much longer.

My opinion is that China needs to be held accountable.

geeteezee · 04-19-2020, 11:23 PM

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Smart, yeah let's cut off the jobs that are probably the most essential with this sh!t….

Depends on why they were laid off I suppose. If they're unionized and don't have proper PPE, then maybe it makes sense.

vtec to vvel · 04-19-2020, 11:28 PM

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Depends on why they were laid off I suppose. If they're unionized and don't have proper PPE, then maybe it makes sense.

Not having the proper PPE is one thing, though I'm not sure why a hospital wouldn't have this, but to lay off bc of a union? Trained and educated medical staff to save lives, but get laid off for BS situations lmao

cossie1600 · 04-20-2020, 12:31 AM

US had been underinvesting in the healthcare system for years, they also outsourced these essentials to China for the sake of saving money. Now it is coming back to bite them hard. We can start working when we bring the numbers down and have masks ventilators and PPE for the hospital workers.

Spooler · 04-20-2020, 01:45 AM

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Depends on why they were laid off I suppose. If they're unionized and don't have proper PPE, then maybe it makes sense.

It is because of them unable to do elective surgeries from what I read. Who knows. Working for a hospital is horrible from what some RN's have told me.

cossie1600 · 04-20-2020, 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

Personally, I am sick of all this. I naturally social distance. The economy is going to hell, folks are loosing everything. Time to go back to work. The USA can't afford this much longer.

I do too, but what do we get for rushing back to work while the virus is still raging and untreatable. A few more weeks of paycheck before everyone either get sick or they shut it down? The waiter at the diner will still be unemployed, the restaurant will still be empty and the mall will not have enough traffic to sustain itself. You literally have the same problem as we do right now except for more sick people. You might say you won’t spread it to anybody. That’s great. Well Leslie down the street might not be as consider or as smart as you are.

cossie1600 · 04-20-2020, 02:44 AM

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It is because of them unable to do elective surgeries from what I read. Who knows. Working for a hospital is horrible from what some RN's have told me.

I would rather be an out of work RN than an out of work engineers, jobs are easier to find

NeverBoneStck · 04-20-2020, 04:23 AM

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I'm not claiming to know more than the experts, I'm just saying that some governors are using this as carte blanche to trample the rights of the people. I'll make it real simple; A quarantine is for sick people, imprisonment is for healthy people. What we have going on now is imprisonment. There is ample proof that this is not overwhelming the hospitals where I live and several other states. 85%+ of the state of Kansas is rural, and 'social distance' as a matter of course, yet they have maybe 1 case per county. Is that justification to make them stay home? No. In the county where I live, 90% of the cases are in 2 zip codes or one city, Olathe. (Google it.) The demographics of that city are such that the large portion of the population are Hispanic, with about 30% of the Hispanic population being illegals. The illegals probably have a high incident of this because they won't seek health care because they might be asked about their immigration status.

We have a tinpot dictator that pretends she is a governor. She has already stated that she will not comply with the President's recommendations to reopen the state. She wants to see ZERO cases before she will ALLOW the state to conduct business. THAT CANNOT STAND. Nothing in our Constitution says that our rights are vacated in the event of a pandemic. The rights codified in the Constitution are rights granted by our Creator, not the government, a concept I'm not sure you fully grasp. Freedom is dangerous, that is the nature of the beast.

In practical reality, the CCP virus has been around since late November. With the symptoms given; fever, chest congestion, unproductive cough, I've already had this virus. I had it between Christmas & New Year when I was on vacation. There is not this level of hysteria over the annual flu, which kills more people. I question the number of people dying from this, considering NYC said everyone that died had the CCP virus, even though they didn't test them. That's controlling the narrative.....

You already had this virus? If I missed it can you post your test kit showing that you did? Or any proof you did??

NeverBoneStck · 04-20-2020, 04:38 AM

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You are looking at the wrong numbers. You are comparing deaths with known cases, that will always give an inaccurate number. Even the 'experts' are saying they don't know how many have had this and had either no symptoms/mild symptoms and recovered quickly. Until there is an anti-body test developed, saying that the CCP virus will kill 2-4% of those it infects is ludicrous.

Let's throw some things out, just for chits & giggles.

Average age of person that dies from CCP virus: 75
Average age of people at death during normal times: 75

What can be deduced from those statements? In reality, not a damn thing. People die when the body and spirit gives up, nothing is going to change that. We don't suspend life because people die. I didn't quit living when I lost my grandparents and I'm not going to quit living when my parents pass. If I did that, my dad when come back from the dead and kick my azz.... guaranteed.

I'm not a hard-hearted bastard, (regardless of what others may say)... all I'm saying is that we have allowed a bunch of people that claim to be experts wipe out our lives for no real good reason. I was raised that when you were sick, you stayed home until you were better. You didn't go dragging your sick azz all over the countryside, you didn't drag your sick kids all over creation to cough and sneeze all over everything, you stayed your azz home. How is this different? I'm not sick, I'm not staying home. PERIOD.

Yeah you are saying you had this. No big deal and compare it to the flu. Why don’t you get reinfected with it. Have a actual test to prove you are infected and please document your experience on you tube. It’s the only way to be sure.
validate everything you know about it and your personal experience of recovery. Please educate all us non believers and believers. It’s the only way to be sure due to you knowing so much. Also, if you can prove anything you are saying by being infected and document it... I will buy you a bottle of whatever your poison is after recovery. Seems like your a fighter and have plenty of spirit. What do you have to lose?

Rusty · 04-20-2020, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

It is because of them unable to do elective surgeries from what I read. Who knows. Working for a hospital is horrible from what some RN's have told me.

Yep, the lack of work. My doctor's office has laid off 3/4 of his staff. Not seeing anyone in the office. Everything is by phone.

bunk · 04-20-2020, 09:52 AM

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Yep, the lack of work. My doctor's office has laid off 3/4 of his staff. Not seeing anyone in the office. Everything is by phone.

Im almost certain that dr's can charge more if they do telemedicine appointments (with video) vs over the phone.

JLarson · 04-20-2020, 10:27 AM

Part of what makes this situation so unpleasant is there is no good answer for how best to deal with it. No matter what you do, you create disaster.

Social distancing works to reduce the spread of the illness - it also creates an economic impact that we still have not yet totally grasped. The pressure on the unemployed has to be absolutely tremendous. Yet to simply open the floodgates and allow free employment again risks transmission, not just in the workplace, but with everyone with whom you have contact.

I take it very seriously. I also admit I don't have answers, and I would not willingly be the governor of any state right now.

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Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 13,853 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684392	Personally, I am sick of all this. I naturally social distance. The economy is going to hell, folks are loosing everything. Time to go back to work. The USA can't afford this much longer. vtec to vvel likes this.

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cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 30	US had been underinvesting in the healthcare system for years, they also outsourced these essentials to China for the sake of saving money. Now it is coming back to bite them hard. We can start working when we bring the numbers down and have masks ventilators and PPE for the hospital workers. FL 4Motion and ZCanadian like this.

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JLarson A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Media, PA Posts: 4,074 Drives: 14 Nissan 370z MR M6 Rep Power: 2684370	Part of what makes this situation so unpleasant is there is no good answer for how best to deal with it. No matter what you do, you create disaster. Social distancing works to reduce the spread of the illness - it also creates an economic impact that we still have not yet totally grasped. The pressure on the unemployed has to be absolutely tremendous. Yet to simply open the floodgates and allow free employment again risks transmission, not just in the workplace, but with everyone with whom you have contact. I take it very seriously. I also admit I don't have answers, and I would not willingly be the governor of any state right now. FL 4Motion, cossie1600, NeverBoneStck and 3 others like this. __________________ 2014 370z Touring Sport Magma Red MT // BP Single Turbo 6467 // 63mm TB's // Z1 Ported Upper Mani // RJM Pedal // Zspeed Stage 3 Clutch // 526 WHP, 451 WTQ 2006 350z (Sold) // 1990 300zx (Sold) // 1985 300zx 2+2 (Sold)