The New “What did you do with your Z today” (with off topic replies) XXXV

Zoren 370 · 04-06-2020, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JLarson

The counterpoint is that God didn't put Job through that. Satan did. God merely withdrew his protection so it could happen. Whether or not that difference means anything to you is dependent on whether or not you think God is somehow obligated to protect people. The rabbit hole can go pretty deep in theology.

JL I see your a man of faith..but I just to put things in its proper perspective.
God did put Job to the test! God and Satan had a wager that Job will start cursing God once he (Satan) will inflict him with tremendous sickness, financial difficulties and you name it...Job even had a terrible infectious disease believed to be Leprosy at time which is considered no cure! ..

God said you can do anything to him but you promise me you would not kill him!

And the wager was set!!! We all know Job even sang praises to God despite all the tribulations he was inflicted upon. He did not once blame God for putting him to the test! We know how the story ended.

You see God dont look at your goodly deeds He looks at your heart! Just like how he used King David!

King David is the most sinful man in the bible but God exonerated him and made him King! Why?

That is why when we pray the Lords Prayer! We say thou shall not put us to the test but deliver us from evil! Amen.

Because we all know we all fall short of how Job’s heart towards God.
That is a fact!
But its possible!

Do you think God is doing a wager with Satan again this time of the Pandemic?
Only our faith could answer that!

Spoiler · 04-06-2020, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by JLarson

Were we debating religion? I thought we were debating morality.

I’m not sure what was being mass-debated about this time... I only pay attention when its pork related...

Hotrodz · 04-06-2020, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

lol that's a completely different argument. If God is providing protection and then removes it for no reason, that's a dìck move. Regardless of whether he was obligated.

Like giving a child a piece of candy only to take it away from them so you can watch them cry. I'm not obligated to give the kid candy, but once I do I've set precedence.

The gift is not of this world and God doesn't guarantee protection from evil or harm on earth!

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JARblue · 04-06-2020, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

The gift is not of this world and God doesn't guarantee protection from evil or harm on earth!

I thought one of the gifts was this world. How could this world not be of this world?

Spoiler · 04-06-2020, 12:46 PM

Just heard from JC again, he is still making progress homeward...

bunk · 04-06-2020, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JLarson

The counterpoint is that God didn't put Job through that. Satan did. God merely withdrew his protection so it could happen. Whether or not that difference means anything to you is dependent on whether or not you think God is somehow obligated to protect people. The rabbit hole can go pretty deep in theology.

Yes. Satan stated that job is only righteous because of the things god give job for being so. Job thought that by appeasing god (as opposed to being WITH God), he received all the riches. God allowed satan to take away all of jobs blessings. That was the main theme of the book of job.

JLarson · 04-06-2020, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Spoiler

I’m not sure what was being mass-debated about this time... I only pay attention when its pork related...

Arguably, the entirety of Judaism is at least pork-adjacent given the views on diet!

abm89 · 04-06-2020, 12:49 PM

I received my AccessPort today. We'll see how good this tune is.

abm89 · 04-06-2020, 12:50 PM

Oh F, we're talking about religion in here now? At least we're keeping it clean eh?

bunk · 04-06-2020, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Zoren 370

JL I see your a man of faith..but I just to put things in its proper perspective.
God did put Job to the test! God and Satan had a wager that Job will start cursing God once he (Satan) will inflict him with tremendous sickness, financial difficulties and you name it...Job even had a terrible infectious disease believed to be Leprosy at time which is considered no cure! ..

God said you can do anything to him but you promise me you would not kill him!

And the wager was set!!! We all know Job even sang praises to God despite all the tribulations he was inflicted upon. He did not once blame God for putting him to the test! We know how the story ended.

You see God dont look at your goodly deeds He looks at your heart! Just like how he used King David!

King David is the most sinful man in the bible but God exonerated him and made him King! Why?

That is why when we pray the Lords Prayer! We say thou shall not put us to the test but deliver us from evil! Amen.

Because we all know we all fall short of how Job’s heart towards God.

Job did not sin from his lips.....

This shows that even though he didnt speak badly of God, his heart was was leaning the other way.

Spoiler · 04-06-2020, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JLarson

Arguably, the entirety of Judaism is at least pork-adjacent given the views on diet!

Well then if that is what its about.... I guess I can mass-debate with you guys.

(Uh, I don’t have to sit on that pop case in the middle again do I?...)

BettyZ · 04-06-2020, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

The gift is not of this world and God doesn't guarantee protection from evil or harm on earth!

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Aka keep wearing your dental dam, Jarbooboo.

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JARblue · 04-06-2020, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BettyZ

Aka keep wearing your dental dam, Jarbooboo

But what if the gift is a form of space herpes?

JLarson · 04-06-2020, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

But what if the gift is a form of space herpes?

In that case, it's a punishment for you and a gift for the rest of us.

Spooler · 04-06-2020, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

I don't have any questions for God where the answer won't trigger a hundred more questions. As an infinitesimally small being in an infinitely large universe, that endeavor seems pointless. Chances are I wouldn't be able to understand the answer anyway. I've got other priorities in this lifetime than worrying about shìt I have no control over.

All I want from my deity is a little consistency

Keep asking why and you will find out. Ask me how I know. It may not be the answer you are looking for.

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