The New “What did you do with your Z today” (with off topic replies) XXXIV

JLarson · 10-17-2019, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghostvette

Years ago, I took some time and read "The Federalist Papers". The hard part was finding them (this was back in the Dark Ages, B.G.) Those lead me to more writings from the folks that penned the Constitution. It appears that the 'original idea' was to have people serve for a short time, then return to their respective towns and teach. I don't think they ever intended for us to have 'career politicians'.

I'm really tired of all the stupidity in Foggy Bottom right now. Sometimes I think the show "Designated Survivor" could be a vast improvement...

Hah yeah the fact that we've managed to turn it into a full career is a huge problem. My comment was more that there are definitely drawbacks to adding term limits which need to be considered. (I have a copy of the Federalist Papers as well, good reading).

Rusty · 10-17-2019, 12:22 PM

The Federalist Papers SHOULD be required reading for every citizen of this country.

Hotrodz · 10-17-2019, 12:34 PM

Government moves should be slow and deliberate. Most people don't understand that government was never meant to be business and should not be run like such. It should use good business practices in the completion of it duties. The government has three main responsibilities the first is to regulate, make laws and enforce them, to protect our country and our interests and lastly to provide services that private sector will not or will but at too high a cost for those other than the wealthy. Because we have let the last latter get out control and most of private sector only cares about themselves (greed) government has moved from being for the people and by the people because of greed and corruption. The heroes that are about the people of this country are drowned of by those that have all the money and the power and we the people are ignorant of our history and how to effect change without playing the extremist game.

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Hotrodz · 10-17-2019, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

The Federalist Papers SHOULD be required reading for every citizen of this country.

I have know idea if civics are even taught in High School and college anymore. It was a requirement to graduate from both when I went through. Hell well were taught about how Bill's become law in the police academy. I had to learn all that stuff because I wrote administrative rules and laws to be passed by State Legislature.

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JLarson · 10-17-2019, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

Government moves should be slow and deliberate. Most people don't understand that government was never meant to be business and should not be run like such. It should use good business practices in the completion of it duties. The government has three main responsibilities the first is to regulate, make laws and enforce them, to protect our country and our interests and lastly to provide services that private sector will not or will but at too high a cost for those other than the wealthy. Because we have let the last latter get out control and most of private sector only cares about themselves (greed) government has moved from being for the people and by the people because of greed and corruption. The heroes that are about the people of this country are drowned of by those that have all the money and the power and we the people are ignorant of our history and how to effect change without playing the extremist game.

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Great comment. Unfortunately the people that have the money are disproportionately responsible for new legislation. As part of working with a local representative candidate, I started reading some of the bills his opponent had sponsored. One of them he'd pushed for was that basically if you donated to a college or university, you could write it off as a tax deduction, even if your child received a free education as a result. Another was that an oil company couldn't be fined or regulated if it was going to cost them more than $1 million, no matter what it was they had done, unless the whole government agreed on it (which was not going to happen since at the time, 80ish percent of the local government was dependent on their donations to get elected).

JARblue · 10-17-2019, 01:12 PM

No political discussions

JARblue · 10-17-2019, 01:14 PM

Who all here is going to the inaugural Formula One Grand Prix in Florida in 2021?

Ghostvette · 10-17-2019, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

No political discussions

Tweren't no political discusshuns......

We were jussayin' that the folks back East are idiots...

madwi · 10-17-2019, 01:55 PM

Diff is back in the car

JLarson · 10-17-2019, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghostvette

Tweren't no political discusshuns......

We were jussayin' that the folks back East are idiots...

Just talking NEAR politics is all, not about them!

Hotrodz · 10-17-2019, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

No political discussions

WTF...I did not hear one comment about candidate, political parties or any of the sorts. The discussion was about civics, history and how our government is supposed to work! If politics were about that we wouldn't be in the place are today!

I would vote for you! That is my political statement the day!!! LMAO

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FPenvy · 10-17-2019, 02:29 PM

you guys still on about politics?

i'll be back later lol

BettyZ · 10-17-2019, 02:36 PM

Any Responsible Adult 2020.

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Hotrodz · 10-17-2019, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

Who all here is going to the inaugural Formula One Grand Prix in Florida in 2021?

Maybe!

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Ghostvette · 10-17-2019, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BettyZ

Any Responsible Adult 2020.

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EW 2020

Fumigate the world...

10-17-2019, 12:22 PM	#1202 (permalink)
Rusty Ronin Samurai - Assassin Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky Age: 68 Posts: 35,181 Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M Rep Power: 2684437	The Federalist Papers SHOULD be required reading for every citizen of this country. Hotrodz, Ghostvette, old guy and 2 others like this. __________________ 浪人 - 殺し屋 "The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only" http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html

10-17-2019, 12:34 PM	#1203 (permalink)
Hotrodz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684385	Government moves should be slow and deliberate. Most people don't understand that government was never meant to be business and should not be run like such. It should use good business practices in the completion of it duties. The government has three main responsibilities the first is to regulate, make laws and enforce them, to protect our country and our interests and lastly to provide services that private sector will not or will but at too high a cost for those other than the wealthy. Because we have let the last latter get out control and most of private sector only cares about themselves (greed) government has moved from being for the people and by the people because of greed and corruption. The heroes that are about the people of this country are drowned of by those that have all the money and the power and we the people are ignorant of our history and how to effect change without playing the extremist game. Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk FL 4Motion, eastwest2300, Rusty and 6 others like this. __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX*\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\|

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