Hybrids...WHY???

BanningZ · 01-12-2009, 04:28 PM

Why do almost all 50+MPG Hybrids look like this???

2009 Toyota Prius

2010 Honda Insight

2011 Chevrolet Volt

Am I missing something? Why? These are soo ugly! I am not opposed to driving hybrid, or electric if they are like a Tesla, because we already know that electric=fast. Did the New World Order, or the Tri-lateral commission have a meeting with an agreement that all hybrids will look like this?

What gives?

Turtle · 01-12-2009, 04:43 PM

Im guessing it the most efficient design aerodynamically.

Crash · 01-12-2009, 05:13 PM

Not really... How about these Hybrids?
Ferrari to build hybrid for low-carbon racing — Plenty Magazine

Lamborghini Hybrid? 'New World' Estoque Could Be One (VIDEO, PHOTOS)

BanningZ · 01-12-2009, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Crash

Not really... How about these Hybrids?

Well unfortunately those appear to be concepts.

And thats the problem, a lot of the concepts look really cool, or if anything way different. Unfortunately they never come into production, like the others.

On a side note, I have a feeling, I will see a lot more Prius's and Insights, compared to hybrid Ferraris...just a hunch.

Heres the old Toyota FTHS Hybrid that was once talked about replacing the Supra. 400HP Hybrid

Crash · 01-12-2009, 05:27 PM

OK! So how about the Chevy Volt and the Cadillac Converj? Both look pretty sweet.

BanningZ · 01-12-2009, 05:32 PM

Cadillac Converj is still in concept form, but they would love to be able to use the Volt powerplant to recoupe their money. As for the Volt, word is it willbe soexpensive that the average person will not be able to afford one, and that GM is only going to make a very limited run of them. They were saying, "Expect celebs to be driving these, not teachers, and state workers."

BanningZ · 01-12-2009, 05:34 PM

That's a great article regarding the Volt and Caddy.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/12/au...onverj.html?em

Crash · 01-12-2009, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BanningZ

Cadillac Converj is still in concept form, but they would love to be able to use the Volt powerplant to recoupe their money. As for the Volt, word is it willbe soexpensive that the average person will not be able to afford one, and that GM is only going to make a very limited run of them. They were saying, "Expect celebs to be driving these, not teachers, and state workers."

HAHAHA!!! Figures... Welcome back to the EV1 era! "No, you can't have one of these!" "No, there won't be very many of them." "No, you can't keep it!"

This is why I despise GM. It doesn't NEED to be expensive. They did a LOT of research on crap they didn't need to research for that car. They wasted their money on some stupid stuff. In the end, they have a Toyota Prius power train and Lithium batteries! That was just dumb.

BanningZ · 01-12-2009, 05:40 PM

I would take an EV-1 in heartbeat... If they weren't all crushed that is.

General Motors EV1 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Crash · 01-12-2009, 05:44 PM

I know all about them... And actually there are a few that weren't destroyed... Although they were all permanently disabled at the AC control box.

I'd love an EV1 also. GM donated 1 to a school in Boston, but again, it was disabled. It's obvious they didn't want anyone knowing how awesome those cars were. I'm surprised they didn't start killing people that leased them.

GM is so backwards.

BanningZ · 01-12-2009, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Crash

GM is so backwards.

X2. GM=FAIL (Well mostly)

Crash · 01-12-2009, 05:46 PM

Given a few months, that fail might become epic.

BanningZ · 01-12-2009, 07:19 PM

Speak of the devil:

2009 Chrysler ENVI - Plugged into the World - photo 09ABI041107893AE

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Chrysler ENVI – Plugged into the World

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Hmmmm,...four will be made (supposedly) Can you spot the odd one out?

Crash · 01-12-2009, 09:47 PM

LOL!

No chance it'd be the, uh, orange one?

BanningZ · 01-12-2009, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Crash

LOL!

No chance it'd be the, uh, orange one?

hmmm...maybe...idk

01-12-2009, 04:28 PM	#1 (permalink)
BanningZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: nowhere Posts: 5,478 Drives: 06' Nismo Frontier Rep Power: 29	Hybrids...WHY??? Why do almost all 50+MPG Hybrids look like this??? 2009 Toyota Prius 2010 Honda Insight 2011 Chevrolet Volt Am I missing something? Why? These are soo ugly! I am not opposed to driving hybrid, or electric if they are like a Tesla, because we already know that electric=fast. Did the New World Order, or the Tri-lateral commission have a meeting with an agreement that all hybrids will look like this? What gives? __________________ Become a Premium Member: Click HERE MB 06' Nismo VQ40DE

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Turtle Base Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Charlottesville, VA Posts: 58 Drives: 08 Honda Fit Sport Rep Power: 16	Im guessing it the most efficient design aerodynamically. __________________ -Brad

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Crash A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,853 Drives: 02 Corvette Z06 Rep Power: 590	Not really... How about these Hybrids? Ferrari to build hybrid for low-carbon racing — Plenty Magazine Lamborghini Hybrid? 'New World' Estoque Could Be One (VIDEO, PHOTOS) __________________ 2002 Corvette Z06 - Totaled 2003 Corvette Z06 50th Anniversary

01-12-2009, 05:27 PM	#5 (permalink)
Crash A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,853 Drives: 02 Corvette Z06 Rep Power: 590	OK! So how about the Chevy Volt and the Cadillac Converj? Both look pretty sweet. __________________ 2002 Corvette Z06 - Totaled 2003 Corvette Z06 50th Anniversary

01-12-2009, 05:32 PM	#6 (permalink)
BanningZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: nowhere Posts: 5,478 Drives: 06' Nismo Frontier Rep Power: 29	Cadillac Converj is still in concept form, but they would love to be able to use the Volt powerplant to recoupe their money. As for the Volt, word is it willbe soexpensive that the average person will not be able to afford one, and that GM is only going to make a very limited run of them. They were saying, "Expect celebs to be driving these, not teachers, and state workers." __________________ Become a Premium Member: Click HERE MB 06' Nismo VQ40DE

01-12-2009, 05:34 PM	#7 (permalink)
BanningZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: nowhere Posts: 5,478 Drives: 06' Nismo Frontier Rep Power: 29	That's a great article regarding the Volt and Caddy. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/12/au...onverj.html?em __________________ Become a Premium Member: Click HERE MB 06' Nismo VQ40DE

01-12-2009, 05:40 PM	#9 (permalink)
BanningZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: nowhere Posts: 5,478 Drives: 06' Nismo Frontier Rep Power: 29	I would take an EV-1 in heartbeat... If they weren't all crushed that is. General Motors EV1 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia __________________ Become a Premium Member: Click HERE MB 06' Nismo VQ40DE

01-12-2009, 05:44 PM	#10 (permalink)
Crash A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,853 Drives: 02 Corvette Z06 Rep Power: 590	I know all about them... And actually there are a few that weren't destroyed... Although they were all permanently disabled at the AC control box. I'd love an EV1 also. GM donated 1 to a school in Boston, but again, it was disabled. It's obvious they didn't want anyone knowing how awesome those cars were. I'm surprised they didn't start killing people that leased them. GM is so backwards. __________________ 2002 Corvette Z06 - Totaled 2003 Corvette Z06 50th Anniversary

01-12-2009, 05:46 PM	#12 (permalink)
Crash A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,853 Drives: 02 Corvette Z06 Rep Power: 590	Given a few months, that fail might become epic. __________________ 2002 Corvette Z06 - Totaled 2003 Corvette Z06 50th Anniversary

01-12-2009, 09:47 PM	#14 (permalink)
Crash A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,853 Drives: 02 Corvette Z06 Rep Power: 590	LOL! No chance it'd be the, uh, orange one? __________________ 2002 Corvette Z06 - Totaled 2003 Corvette Z06 50th Anniversary