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eastwest2300 03-31-2018 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3743399)
Man............you take all the fun out of stuff. :shakes head: Damn fun killer!

:icon17::icon17::icon17::icon17:

eastwest2300 03-31-2018 04:46 PM

I'm literally strategically thinking about the most efficient way of doing this project.. and mitigating any potential issues that could arise and slow us down.

Leingod 03-31-2018 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300 (Post 3743403)
I'm literally strategically thinking about the most efficient way of doing this project.. and mitigating any potential issues that could arise and slow us down.

We have this. No worries brother. At worse. We call it quits and I install later on down the road from a local shop. I plan to get in Friday morning. Should give us 3 days for everything. I'm sure we can half *** our way through the tricky parts.

Leingod 03-31-2018 04:52 PM

I do promise that's the last thing. I had no intention of getting a cooler. It just happened to work out perfectly. I apologize for throwing that at you guys. That's if everything works out properly. Sale is pending. Hahaha.

eastwest2300 03-31-2018 04:56 PM

mike.. buy 2 cheap blankets from harbor freight.. we'll use the blankets to lay on the floor, so the pb blaster that we'll use will fall on that and not on Mr. Madwi's garage..

eastwest2300 03-31-2018 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Leingod (Post 3743405)
I do promise that's the last thing. I had no intention of getting a cooler. It just happened to work out perfectly. I apologize for throwing that at you guys. That's if everything works out properly. Sale is pending. Hahaha.

why the oil cooler though? do you see yourself doing the track?

eastwest2300 03-31-2018 05:00 PM

and I do remember when I had my oil cooler installed, it was like I did an oil change at the same time, so I'd factor in 5 quarts and a filter added in too..

Leingod 03-31-2018 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300 (Post 3743407)
mike.. buy 2 cheap blankets from harbor freight.. we'll use the blankets to lay on the floor, so the pb blaster that we'll use will fall on that and not on Mr. Madwi's garage..

Okie dokey. Easy enough.

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300 (Post 3743409)
why the oil cooler though? do you see yourself doing the track?

Nope. Just cool to have.

eastwest2300 03-31-2018 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Leingod (Post 3743412)
Okie dokey. Easy enough.



Nope. Just cool to have.

ewwwwwwww... dude, you'll soon find out, having one is kinda a pain in the azz...

eastwest2300 03-31-2018 05:11 PM

you might wanna do a little bit of research before you pull the trigger on one..

eastwest2300 03-31-2018 05:12 PM

in regards to air temperature vs engine oil temps and how an oil cooler factors in..

eastwest2300 03-31-2018 05:13 PM

when you'd use a block off plate and when you dont.. and how air temps factor in..

madwi 03-31-2018 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300 (Post 3743413)
ewwwwwwww... dude, you'll soon find out, having one is kinda a pain in the azz...

He is getting a very good deal. One you dont pass up or you regret it later lol.

eastwest2300 03-31-2018 05:14 PM

It took me a little bit figuring it out, but I did.. would I have bought it knowing what I know now? hmmmm, thats hard to say.. but watching my oil temps is definitely a priority now that I have a cooler than before getting one..

eastwest2300 03-31-2018 05:15 PM

Maybe one of the vets can chime in.. (Rusty? paging Rusty)

madwi 03-31-2018 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300 (Post 3743407)
mike.. buy 2 cheap blankets from harbor freight.. we'll use the blankets to lay on the floor, so the pb blaster that we'll use will fall on that and not on Mr. Madwi's garage..

Be sure to save room for a large box of crap when you leave. You get to have all my old detailing crap I couldnt send in the mail. They are gallon sized jugs. :tup:

eastwest2300 03-31-2018 05:20 PM

basically, even at 60 degrees, with an oil cooler, if your car's oil temp is struggling to reach 160 degrees, you're running the potential of doing damage to your engine (because the oil is too cool).. now there's varying opinions on air temperature and engine oil temps.. some will say 160 is too low, 170 to 180 is ideal, but there's no way you'll reach that if its 60 degrees out, and you're driving casually..

make sense?

madwi 03-31-2018 05:22 PM

It might have thermostatic switch. not sure but my guess would be it is.

eastwest2300 03-31-2018 05:23 PM

now, if its 70 degrees out or higher, you should be safe.. but always watching your temps (even at night, when temps are prone to dropping), if your engine oil temp drops to a certain level, you'd put on your block off plate, to prevent the cooler from dropping your engine temps to damaging levels.

trust me, if this doesnt make sense right now, it will when you get one. Its pretty impressive to see it in action, because your engine oil temps can change very very quickly with one.

eastwest2300 03-31-2018 05:29 PM

I'm only speaking from personal experience, I am in no way an expert on how they work, this is only analysis that I've experienced 1st hand and the research that did AFTER I got one.. I couldn't pass up a good deal..

I was like...sh1t...:eek::eek::eek::eek:

eastwest2300 03-31-2018 05:31 PM

you vets are free to chime in and chew me out if im way off... :icon17:

Leingod 03-31-2018 06:09 PM

It doesn't come with a plate. I have no issue getting one though. Shouldn't be that bad. At worse, either of you guys wanna trade for the smaller version? Lol

Rusty 03-31-2018 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300 (Post 3743403)
I'm literally strategically thinking about the most efficient way of doing this project.. and mitigating any potential issues that could arise and slow us down.

i can smell the smoke all the way to my place.

Rusty 03-31-2018 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300 (Post 3743419)
Maybe one of the vets can chime in.. (Rusty? paging Rusty)

WHAT??????? What's you need to know?

onzedge 03-31-2018 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300 (Post 3743411)
and I do remember when I had my oil cooler installed, it was like I did an oil change at the same time, so I'd factor in 5 quarts and a filter added in too..

:iagree:

onzedge 03-31-2018 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300 (Post 3743415)
in regards to air temperature vs engine oil temps and how an oil cooler factors in..

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300 (Post 3743416)
when you'd use a block off plate and when you dont.. and how air temps factor in..

It is a bit hit and miss regarding the block off plate. A rule of thumb is that if the outside temp is less than 60 or so F then use the plate. It is not good to run the engine over long periods with the oil below 180F.

onzedge 03-31-2018 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3743396)
I was going to install my oil cooler and brake ducts and hood vents this weekend. I chose to drive the Z instead :icon17: :driving:

:stirthepot:

Leingod 03-31-2018 06:51 PM

And sold!

Leingod 03-31-2018 06:51 PM

Madwi... Expect another package. And I will just order the plate to be on the safe end. It def can't hurt.

Rusty 03-31-2018 07:00 PM

If you have a oil cooler with a thermostatic plate. You will not have any problems down to 50F. The plate stays cracked open a little to keep oil flowing through the cooler to keep the oil warm. So that when the plate opens fully. The system is not getting shocked with cold oil. Moisture in the oil starts to evaporate at 110F. By the time it hits 180F. All of the moisture is gone. I would install a cooler cover at 50F. Higher if you want to feel safer.

If you don't have a thermostatic plate. You can make a plate out of sheet aluminum that you can duct tape or zip tie in place. I would do this at around 60F. Depending on how hard you are going to push it.

Remember, you are only dealing with 5 to 6 quarts of oil.

Leingod 03-31-2018 07:11 PM

I'm going to just order a plate from FI just to be safe. Can't hurt.

Leingod 03-31-2018 07:40 PM

So the list now stands at:

FI 18inch resonated exhaust
Z1 res HFC
V2 rjm clutch pedal
Stillen Gen 3 long tube intake with aem dry filters and pcv stuff
Fly1 CF side blades
Fuji knockoff CF diffuser
FI 34 row oil cooler
Fairlady Z badging for rear
Gtr button
Vinyl wrap CF b pillars

madwi 03-31-2018 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Leingod (Post 3743463)
So the list now stands at:

FI 18inch resonated exhaust
Z1 res HFC
V2 rjm clutch pedal
Stillen Gen 3 long tube intake with aem dry filters and pcv stuff
Fly1 CF side blades
Fuji knockoff CF diffuser
FI 34 row oil cooler
Fairlady Z badging for rear
Gtr button
Vinyl wrap CF b pillars

They are Fast Intentions HFC.

Leingod 03-31-2018 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by madwi (Post 3743467)
They are Fast Intentions HFC.

Even better! Everything will match!!!! Muwahahaahahaha

Leingod 03-31-2018 08:32 PM

Keeping track of everything. It's a legit list! Lol

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/901/3...593106db_c.jpg

Rusty 03-31-2018 08:54 PM

Hot tube Saturday nite. :tiphat:

eastwest2300 03-31-2018 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3743451)
If you have a oil cooler with a thermostatic plate. You will not have any problems down to 50F. The plate stays cracked open a little to keep oil flowing through the cooler to keep the oil warm. So that when the plate opens fully. The system is not getting shocked with cold oil. Moisture in the oil starts to evaporate at 110F. By the time it hits 180F. All of the moisture is gone. I would install a cooler cover at 50F. Higher if you want to feel safer.

If you don't have a thermostatic plate. You can make a plate out of sheet aluminum that you can duct tape or zip tie in place. I would do this at around 60F. Depending on how hard you are going to push it.

Remember, you are only dealing with 5 to 6 quarts of oil.

So I was in the right ballpark... thanks for chiming in.:tup:

Leingod 03-31-2018 10:10 PM

Madwi says we can just add a sheet of aluminum to the cooler. It's what he does to his. He has the same exact cooler.

madwi 03-31-2018 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Leingod (Post 3743494)
Madwi says we can just add a sheet of aluminum to the cooler. It's what he does to his. He has the same exact cooler.

just gonna make a simple plate.

eastwest2300 03-31-2018 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Leingod (Post 3743494)
Madwi says we can just add a sheet of aluminum to the cooler. It's what he does to his. He has the same exact cooler.

I do the same thing with mine..I cut it in 2 pieces, and its held on by velcro and it works like a charm.


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