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Originally Posted by fuct if you really loved him you would have just gave him money for a down payment and made him make payments on something. teach him value.....

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Old 01-16-2010, 11:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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if you really loved him you would have just gave him money for a down payment and made him make payments on something. teach him value.....

sorry, guess im just bitter no one ever bought me a car.

nice gesture though.
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Yeah its pretty dumb to just give your kids cars... hey heres a free car!!

You think you are doing your kids a favour but really you are not

I'm kinda young and have owned two cars so far, i paid for both of them myself by working hard.

If my father had just paid for them both, sure i would have been real happy but i wouldn't understand the true value of working hard for your first big purchase, the very thing that gives you independence and freedom... when dad buys that for you it aint the same as when you buy it yourself

Plus its green...he wanted black!

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Yeah its pretty dumb to just give your kids cars... hey heres a free car!!

You think you are doing your kids a favour but really you are not

I'm kinda young and have owned two cars so far, i paid for both of them myself by working hard.

If my father had just paid for them both, sure i would have been real happy but i wouldn't understand the true value of working hard for your first big purchase, the very thing that gives you independence and freedom... when dad buys that for you it aint the same as when you buy it yourself

Plus its green...he wanted black!

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I've given all 6 of my kids a car (not new), and only one really didn't appreciate it. He did later in life, just not to much at the time. Now I get to work the guilt thing on that one!
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Old 01-18-2010, 11:18 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I've given all 6 of my kids a car (not new), and only one really didn't appreciate it. He did later in life, just not to much at the time. Now I get to work the guilt thing on that one!
Whoa 6 kids and you gave them all a car, that is ALOT of cars, good on you tho...darn 6 lol

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Whoa 6 kids and you gave them all a car, that is ALOT of cars, good on you tho...darn 6 lol

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Awesome Jeep for your son! My dad did the same thing for me when I was 16 and got me a 1982 280ZX. He put a big bow on it and brought it to school for me to find. It's awesome if your son is as great as you say he is. He sounds like a very responsible, mature kid and should be (and probably is) very grateful for your sacrifice.

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Awesome Jeep for your son! My dad did the same thing for me when I was 16 and got me a 1982 280ZX. He put a big bow on it and brought it to school for me to find. It's awesome if your son is as great as you say he is. He sounds like a very responsible, mature kid and should be (and probably is) very grateful for your sacrifice.

Way to go!
Sweet! That is something you'll remember and be grateful for, for the rest of your life. My son has been incredibly grateful. He's a fantastic son anyway, but it's always nice as a parent to see when you've made the right call and it's appreciated. Honestly, it gives me much more joy watching him pull away in his jeep than I would have ever gotten from my own Z. Besides, this way I can do both soon.
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Moonlitebiker, you"re a stand up guy...

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Yeah its pretty dumb to just give your kids cars... hey heres a free car!!

You think you are doing your kids a favour but really you are not

I'm kinda young and have owned two cars so far, i paid for both of them myself by working hard.

If my father had just paid for them both, sure i would have been real happy but i wouldn't understand the true value of working hard for your first big purchase, the very thing that gives you independence and freedom... when dad buys that for you it aint the same as when you buy it yourself

Plus its green...he wanted black!

- Ty
Interesting advice coming from a couple of kids who clearly have never raised children to adulthood, and definitely know nothing about my boy. My son is an honor roll kid headed for college and has excelled in sports for many years. The boy knows about hard work, honor, value, respect and what it takes to succeed. By the way, parents who wait until their child is 17 to try and teach lessons of value and hard work have missed the boat by about 16 years or so. And to try and teach that lesson by having them buy their own car... My guess is they will end up being the type of person who comes to a website and attacks a good father and his son. Shame on you.

For the rest of you who know what it takes to be a parent... it's been 24 days and he's still smiling. Me too!
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Interesting advice coming from a couple of kids who clearly have never raised children to adulthood, and definitely know nothing about my boy. My son is an honor roll kid headed for college and has excelled in sports for many years. The boy knows about hard work, honor, value, respect and what it takes to succeed. By the way, parents who wait until their child is 17 to try and teach lessons of value and hard work have missed the boat by about 16 years or so. And to try and teach that lesson by having them buy their own car... My guess is they will end up being the type of person who comes to a website and attacks a good father and his son. Shame on you.

For the rest of you who know what it takes to be a parent... it's been 24 days and he's still smiling. Me too!
I think you took what i said totally out of context and way too personally.

I never attacked you and your son, nor would i, re-read my post

again here is my point from my original post

"If my father had just paid for them both, sure i would have been real happy but i wouldn't understand the true value of working hard for your first big purchase, the very thing that gives you independence and freedom... when dad buys that for you it aint the same as when you buy it yourself"

We all know you love your kid to death, you sold your bike for him, thats hard for a man to do. I know everyone loves their kids to death and wants to give them the world, in the grand scheme of things giving your kid a car OR making them pay for it is not a life and death matter.

It would be smarter and much more beneficial for you and your kids if you put the down payment on it and make them pay off the rest, i don't see how hard that is to understand. He can work hard at school, college and still pay for his own car, i am doing exactly that...it ain't hard

This way you could have done what you originally came here to do, sell your beautiful bike, buy your 370z and just put the down payment on your sons car, it would be a win/win for everyone.


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Ur decision to give a kid a car is ur decision but my parents made me get a job to get mine, never gave me any financial support, i've been working since i was 14 to have the things i want, I'm 20 drive a 370z, was honor roll, a blown knee killed football for me, and the only records I have are driving, and employment. I not only understand the value of working for what i want, i understand being poor and the unfairness that is present in our world that is the majority of us won't get handouts. Nobody knows your kid better than you and plenty of rich kids eventually go on to be rich and do well in there lives so don't think we are trying to tell you what to do it's just that it worked for my parents, it'll work for me. On a side note, I have a friend who had SOO much handed to him by his parents and he is never going anywhere in his life and makes terrible decisions because he isn't responsible for anything he does. If I ever did decide to buy my kid a car, i would make him pay at least half, or buy him a broken car and make him fix it(pass on the car gene ). There are valid points both ways on this.

Edit: just to as i like arguments, I'm on my 5th car, slated to by house when i turn 26, and have a stable future where the hell is my Jeep

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I think you took what i said totally out of context and way too personally.

I never attacked you and your son, nor would i, re-read my post

again here is my point from my original post

"If my father had just paid for them both, sure i would have been real happy but i wouldn't understand the true value of working hard for your first big purchase, the very thing that gives you independence and freedom... when dad buys that for you it aint the same as when you buy it yourself"

We all know you love your kid to death, you sold your bike for him, thats hard for a man to do. I know everyone loves their kids to death and wants to give them the world, in the grand scheme of things giving your kid a car OR making them pay for it is not a life and death matter.

It would be smarter and much more beneficial for you and your kids if you put the down payment on it and make them pay off the rest, i don't see how hard that is to understand. He can work hard at school, college and still pay for his own car, i am doing exactly that...it ain't hard

This way you could have done what you originally came here to do, sell your beautiful bike, buy your 370z and just put the down payment on your sons car, it would be a win/win for everyone.


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People work for a reason. Everyone's reason is different. Some work for a house payment, food, and other bills. Some work to buy toys. Some support families. When someone works enough to have money to either A) buy a sports car or B) buy their child a car, the choice is up to them.
I understand what you are saying, but blanket statements such as these are exemplify ignorance. For example, how am I, in boarding school for high school, supposed to hold a job? It's literally impossible. I work every chance I get when I'm home because I am not given money, but there is no way I could afford a car payment on top of other expenses (clothes, books, and other things I buy).
Saying this to the OP is very disrespectful, despite how "thought provoking" it may be. You are forgetting a very important aspect of his actions: to make his son HAPPY. He knows his kid better than you, I, or any person on here, and he knows if his son deserves to have a car bought for him or not. You don't have to buy something yourself to understand what it means. I'm sure his son KNOWS that his dad sold his bike and sacrificed his own joy for his son, and that means something. This lesson goes beyond the simple "teach 'em young and teach 'em hard" theology, and instead dwells in a family, and doing what's best for them in one's OWN mind. One does not give someone a downpayment on a shirt for Christmas; one gives the person the shirt, because it makes THEM FEEL GOOD.
I understand what you are saying, but in no way do you have the right to preach to the OP about his generous, selfless, and meaningful decision.

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