Ford WTF

vash_241987 · 11-24-2009, 10:33 PM

what do you guys think about the ford tarus SHO commericals where they put it up against other luxury cars. IMO....I doubt the interior of a ford can match that of an audi.....and "ecoboost?".....so thats what their calling turbocharged cars these days

too bad its been used for awhile.

m4a1mustang · 11-24-2009, 10:38 PM

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what do you guys think about the ford tarus SHO commericals where they put it up against other luxury cars. IMO....I doubt the interior of a ford can match that of an audi.....and "ecoboost?".....so thats what their calling turbocharged cars these days

too bad its been used for awhile.

It's all marketing and like I said, it's working. They have been doing a terrific job.

The SHO is actually a nice car. The materials might not be the same as an Audi, but then again neither is the price. They still are pretty good, though.

And it's not like luxury car material quality is that fantastic to begin with. Take the new Mercedes... they use cheap plastics all over the place!

dad · 11-24-2009, 10:44 PM

^I agree, it is working! There are lots of new Fords out there, lots!

vash_241987 · 11-24-2009, 10:46 PM

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It's all marketing and like I said, it's working. They have been doing a terrific job.

The SHO is actually a nice car. The materials might not be the same as an Audi, but then again neither is the price. They still are pretty good, though.

And it's not like luxury car material quality is that fantastic to begin with. Take the new Mercedes... they use cheap plastics all over the place!

hmmm gonna give that one on the MB plastic

driven in their bluetec suv's and let me tell ya, I hate the dash in their m-class, but loved the leather dash in one of their gl-class. I think ford will really blow away the other muscle cars when they introduce the ecoboost mustang....though I heard of purist resisting it, but some say ford will bring back a 5.0 for those who want the v-8

370Zsteve · 11-24-2009, 11:02 PM

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It's all marketing and like I said, it's working. They have been doing a terrific job.

The SHO is actually a nice car. The materials might not be the same as an Audi, but then again neither is the price. They still are pretty good, though.

And it's not like luxury car material quality is that fantastic to begin with. Take the new Mercedes... they use cheap plastics all over the place!

Agreed. SHO just got a terrific review in Car & Driver this month.

Ford and GM are putting out the best vehicles in their history right now, IMHO.

m4a1mustang · 11-24-2009, 11:09 PM

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Agreed. SHO just got a terrific review in Car & Driver this month.

Ford and GM are putting out the best vehicles in their history right now, IMHO.

While I agree, I actually think it's a little sad for GM. The potential is there for them to be great, but they have been so poorly managed for so many years the cars haven't gotten the attention they deserved.

The product line is kind of lacking right now, too. Aside from the Corvette and Camaro there really is nothing in their lineup that stands out in its particular segment.

370Zsteve · 11-24-2009, 11:09 PM

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While I agree, I actually think it's a little sad for GM. The potential is there for them to be great, but they have been so poorly managed for so many years the cars haven't gotten the attention they deserved.

The product line is kind of lacking right now, too. Aside from the Corvette and Camaro there really is nothing in their lineup that stands out in its particular segment.

I agree about GM mgmt. The company was so damned big, hard to change course. But....Everything Cadillac. Everything. And Malibu. I hear the G8 is not going away..good thing.

m4a1mustang · 11-24-2009, 11:11 PM

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Everything Cadillac. Everything.

There's the standout brand right there. As much as I am at odds with GM Corporate, I'd totally pimp me a CTS!

370Zsteve · 11-24-2009, 11:15 PM

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There's the standout brand right there. As much as I am at odds with GM Corporate, I'd totally pimp me a CTS!

LOL, ima take a CTS-V o yeh.

bigaudiofanat · 11-24-2009, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by vash_241987

what do you guys think about the ford tarus SHO commericals where they put it up against other luxury cars. IMO....I doubt the interior of a ford can match that of an audi.....and "ecoboost?".....so thats what their calling turbocharged cars these days

too bad its been used for awhile.

I agree not even close.

I am not sure how they are doing a terrific job if all they can talk about is how you grow a tree. If anything GM is doing a much better job.

m4a1mustang · 11-24-2009, 10:44 PM

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I agree not even close.

I am not sure how they are doing a terrific job if all they can talk about is how you grow a tree. If anything GM is doing a much better job.

Dude... go listen to Akon or something.

For the sake of the humanity, do not major in anything business related.

bigaudiofanat · 11-24-2009, 10:47 PM

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Dude... go listen to Akon or something.

For the sake of the humanity, do not major in anything business related.

LOL no biggie I just think GM is actually trying to get people to buy products. I am not trying to be a business guy of sort.

m4a1mustang · 11-24-2009, 10:53 PM

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LOL no biggie I just think GM is actually trying to get people to buy products. I am not trying to be a business guy of sort.

I find it interesting (and ridiculous) that you think that. All of the evidence points the contrary.

Ford pulls down GM's pants on a daily basis.

bigaudiofanat · 11-24-2009, 10:57 PM

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I find it interesting (and ridiculous) that you think that. All of the evidence points the contrary.

Ford pulls down GM's pants on a daily basis.

This coming from a member with mustang in his name

I am just stating what I see how bad ford commercials are. The truck ones are good but other than that na.

m4a1mustang · 11-24-2009, 11:07 PM

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This coming from a member with mustang in his name

I am just stating what I see how bad ford commercials are. The truck ones are good but other than that na.

I can tell that you are a very gullible guy, because if you actually watch those GM ad spots you can tell that they are a very, very desperate company. All they do is raise their inferior product on a pedestal and attempt to poke fun at the competition. They stoop to the level of a 5 year old and make themselves look silly, all while they are losing market share and slipping in quality ratings.

GM is a company with an ***-backwards corporate culture. Their business model is one of, "ignore everything that's going on in the world and keep on doing it the GM way." No wonder they needed billions in taxpayer dollars just to cling to life for another few years before someone finally lets them croak.

You think Ford's commercials are stupid, but the American consumer is actually out there buying Ford products. While GM and Chrysler were running themselves into the ground, Ford corporate was restructuring the business. They revamped their debt structure... invested heavily in improving product quality, developing new lines, and figuring out what the market wanted. The result? No taxpayer funding needed, they are gaining North American market share, they have bridged the quality gap with the Japanese, and they are spending less on incentives. GM is having to push more incentives to try and lure people to buy!

Ford is an American success story. Whether you like them or not, they have done a fantastic job with the company.

Whether or not I have Mustang in my name or not shouldn't matter. I'm a finance guy for a living first and foremost, and I think that most people here who've read my posts know that I am not going to hold back any scorn. Just because I have a Z doesn't mean I like everything about it... see?

Moral of the story -- don't make any inferences on the health of the company based upon the entertainment value of the commercials.

11-24-2009, 10:44 PM	#3 (permalink)
dad Grand Prix of Endurance Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tennessee Posts: 3,476 Drives: Mulsanne Straight Rep Power: 26	^I agree, it is working! There are lots of new Fords out there, lots! __________________ We can do without any article of luxury we have never had; but once obtained, it is not in human nature to surrender it voluntary.

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vash_241987 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Corpus Christi, Tx Posts: 443 Drives: '99 corolla Rep Power: 16	what do you guys think about the ford tarus SHO commericals where they put it up against other luxury cars. IMO....I doubt the interior of a ford can match that of an audi.....and "ecoboost?".....so thats what their calling turbocharged cars these days too bad its been used for awhile.