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zfokaiz 12-04-2009 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by grahfz (Post 307153)
I recommend a 12gauge for home defense if you're not worried about neighbors and children from over penetration.
wish.

Im no expert on guns but is a shotgun a lot harder to throw up than a handgun? dont get me wrong mine's loaded in the closet (no kiddies in the house) but as far as immediate action wouldn't a handgun be better?

SigPapa226 12-04-2009 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Gaiiden (Post 289612)
No one has mentioned the fact that while a .22 has less stopping power, a 9mm or higher will punch through walls and easily kill anyone in the vicinity if you happen to take a crazy shot and miss the perp before hitting him/her. Do you have any children in the house? Are you in an apartment complex or have neighbors nearby? If so I would recommend just a shotgun, as that is strictly a close-range weapon that won't cause too much collateral damage outside of the immediate room you are in.

Furthermore, saying that a .22 will only piss someone off is a bit of Hollywood if you ask me. Given that the majority of crooks are just normal people down on their luck an desperate (not career criminals) anyone getting shot with anything would be enough to incapacitate them.

Finally, if you're going to shoot someone in your house or on your property, make sure you kill them. I know it sounds harsh but really there should be no reason to shoot someone unless your own life is in mortal peril (i.e. s/he also has a gun or other deadly weapon with imminent threat to use it). If they're still alive when the police recover them they could potentially sue you for damages, and you would have to then prove that you were within rights to shoot them. It's just additional legal stuff to deal with. Note too that even if they're dead the cops can bring charges against you as well if they suspect the shooting was more than just self-defense.


A 22 is for practice. Only a "super ninja" can guarantee stopping anyone with a 22. Stopping power is why they developed the 45 Cal; but it is harder to handle.

For a novice the best choice is a shotgun. Its easy to use and hard to miss at short range. If a handgun is desired - go with a higher caliber. My choice is 357 or 40 S&W. Sig Sauer P226 has interchangeable barrels (9mm, 357 or 40 S&W). Mine is 40 S&W.

Use self defense ammo like Corbon jacketed hollow point. It will stop a person, but stopped by walls.

bullitt5897 12-04-2009 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by zfokaiz (Post 307200)
Im no expert on guns but is a shotgun a lot harder to throw up than a handgun? dont get me wrong mine's loaded in the closet (no kiddies in the house) but as far as immediate action wouldn't a handgun be better?

when you clear a room do you keep your gun down?....



No, it should be shouldered and pointing at a center mass level. I do the same with my AR and I often practice in the house with the lights of and NVGs on. You should try it when your home alone with an empty gun. Lay in bed set your alarm and when it goes off. Jump up out of bed pick up your *UNLOADED* weapon and clear the house with the lights on and off... find the best way to clear a room without being seen or heard :tup: if a stair creeks know to skip that step... Remember the best advantage you have is that it is your home turf and you know where everything is!


To the guy asking about the H&K USPs:

I own the latest HK45 that was designed to replace both the 1911 and the beretta... I love the gun to death! very little recoil for a .45 and easy to get on target. I got my mom a USP 45 compact and it is just as good and super light! I actually prefer Kimber 1911's for my shooting style as they are a single action trigger and that suits me better than most double action trigger guns.

grahfz 12-04-2009 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by semtex (Post 307182)
What do you mean you don't even have to bother aiming? You're aiming with the laser, aren't you? :confused:

You know what I meant :stirthepot:

zfokaiz 12-04-2009 01:59 PM

Thanks Bullit, I'll have to try that.

dad 12-04-2009 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by bullitt5897 (Post 307211)
when you clear a room do you keep your gun down?....



No, it should be shouldered and pointing at a center mass level. I do the same with my AR and I often practice in the house with the lights of and NVGs on. You should try it when your home alone with an empty gun. Lay in bed set your alarm and when it goes off. Jump up out of bed pick up your *UNLOADED* weapon and clear the house with the lights on and off... find the best way to clear a room without being seen or heard :tup: if a stair creeks know to skip that step... Remember the best advantage you have is that it is your home turf and you know where everything is!


To the guy asking about the H&K USPs:

I own the latest HK45 that was designed to replace both the 1911 and the beretta... I love the gun to death! very little recoil for a .45 and easy to get on target. I got my mom a USP 45 compact and it is just as good and super light! I actually prefer Kimber 1911's for my shooting style as they are a single action trigger and that suits me better than most double action trigger guns.

I own the latest HK45 that was designed to replace both the 1911 and the beretta
What HK is that?<<<<<

semtex 12-04-2009 03:04 PM

The HK USP 45. And by 'replace', I think he means replace in US military service, not design.

axio 12-05-2009 10:01 PM

HK45

Heckler & Koch - USA

dad 12-05-2009 10:11 PM

I looked over and held the USP 45, it fit my hand extremely well. But my heart was set on the Sig P220, which I purchased.

PyroCustoms 12-05-2009 11:50 PM

My next pistol purchases are a HK USP or the new one, Sig .40 tac in the desert color, and my buddies 92fs in OD.

StLRedrider 12-05-2009 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by PyroCustoms (Post 310003)
My next pistol purchases are a HK USP or the new one, Sig .40 tac in the desert color, and my buddies 92fs in OD.

i luvs mine, never leaves my side

PyroCustoms 12-06-2009 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by StLRedrider (Post 310011)
i luvs mine, never leaves my side

My SA 4" lightweight campion 1911 is my primary. I carry 230gr +P Golden sabers :eek::icon14: and TAP rounds.

StLRedrider 12-06-2009 12:13 AM

i started carring my kimber 1911. just a pain, kinda of big for a conceal pro carry 2 .40 cal. thats when i went out and got the hk

bullitt5897 12-06-2009 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by dad (Post 307759)
I own the latest HK45 that was designed to replace both the 1911 and the beretta
What HK is that?<<<<<

here is some good info on the gun and btw its not a usp...

HK-45.com: Heckler & Koch Firearms, Featuring the HK 45

dad 12-06-2009 01:19 AM

^Cool , rep point, thanks.

semtex 12-06-2009 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by PyroCustoms (Post 310017)
My SA 4" lightweight campion 1911 is my primary. I carry 230gr +P Golden sabers :eek::icon14: and TAP rounds.

Golden Saber doesn't come in 230gr +P. If your Golden Saber rounds are 230gr, they're not +P. And if they are +P, then they're 185gr.

Remington Golden Saber HPJ


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