Windows 7 - Upgrade/Clean Install

travisjb · 10-30-2009, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MightyBobo

...My new area of expertise however, is network security (yes, its a very broad term, but I cant say much more than that)...

Spook alert ! You may have noticed bobo's location is "baltimore/dc"... the mid-point of those two towns is the NSA located at Fort Meade / Laurel, MD.

MightyBobo · 10-30-2009, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by travisjb

Spook alert ! You may have noticed bobo's location is "baltimore/dc"... the mid-point of those two towns is the NSA located at Fort Meade / Laurel, MD.

Im watching you, Travis...you're on "the list" now...

DIGItonium · 10-30-2009, 01:32 PM

LOL!

I don't know if FSB is still the term to use with i5 and i7 as they now refer to QPI. However, my BIOS indicates an adjustable base frequency of 133MHz and 20x multiplier (2.660 GHz). My system is still in pieces (have to remove optical drive cage to mess with memory). [shrugs] I don't keep myself updated with this stuff either haha.

travisjb · 10-30-2009, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MightyBobo

Im watching you, Travis...you're on "the list" now...

Ha! Already on all those lists!

MightyBobo · 10-30-2009, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by travisjb

Ha! Already on all those lists!

Oh I'm sure there's more we can put you on!

DIGItonium · 11-04-2009, 10:50 AM

Success!
I've had my Lenovo U330 running for over a week with Win7 (from upgrade media) and Crucial SSD. Footprint is under 11GB with drivers and some applications installed. Performance is relatively snappy, and 3GB of memory actually feels like it. In fact, it's as fast as a typical desktop machine.

I sold my 2nd upgrade media to one of my friends. His machine is an X58 with Core i7 920, 6GB of DDR3, and dual GTX 285 graphics cards. He already had a clean install of Vista running on a new hard drive and completed a clean install with the upgrade media.

My 3rd copy is an OEM disc. My HTPC is nearly complete as it currently has 4GB of DDR3, and the other 4GB is currently RMA'd. The HD 5850 arrived last night. After some cutting (OrigenAE S14V hard drive cage had fitment issues), I managed to get everything fitting properly. After tweaking the system and installing some apps (just Firefox) and drivers on the X-25M, the footprint is around 7.93GB! This was down from 12GB and 10GB foot print!

Anyhow, I'm still waiting for updated/fixed Intel X-25M firmware in hopes to boost performance as well as get TRIM working.

HTPC Specs:
OrigenAE S14V
Corsair HX650
MSI P55M-GD45
Core i5 750 with Scythe Ninja Mini Rev B HSF
4x2GB G.Skill DDR3 1333MHz
WD RaptorX 150GB (Carryover from previous build)
Intel X-25M 80GB
Sapphire HD 5850
Auzentech X-Fi Prelude (Carryover from previous build)

My system was fairly quiet until I added in the graphics card. At idle, the fan is a bit louder than everything else. I'm still trying to optimize the system as well as improve airflow through the heatsink. The fan is currently pulling air through the heatsink due to size constraints. Plus, the Gelid PWM fan isn't all that great. It starts "buzzing" beyond 50% duty.

Well, this concludes Win7 upgrade media installation and impressions. Compared to Vista, this installation was quite successful. Now if only BioShock 2 and MW2 comes out...

bigaudiofanat · 11-04-2009, 11:04 AM

Congrats man have you used any of the new features it comes with?

azn370z · 11-04-2009, 11:14 AM

I've been running win7 for about a week and I have to say it's pretty much like vista, and looks like it too. At first I was going to switch back to vista when win7 told me my ms bluetooth keyboard and mice wasn't compatible. I never had hardware or software problems with vista because I built a pc just for vista. I don't think upgrading is worth it for vista owners. I got the upgrade for $50 so it wasn't too much a waste of money for me.

MightyBobo · 11-04-2009, 11:29 AM

All early releases of OS's are buggy. Most everyone with experience will tell you - wait a few months at minimum after it comes out to upgrade...

theDreamer · 11-04-2009, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azn370z

I've been running win7 for about a week and I have to say it's pretty much like vista, and looks like it too. At first I was going to switch back to vista when win7 told me my ms bluetooth keyboard and mice wasn't compatible. I never had hardware or software problems with vista because I built a pc just for vista. I don't think upgrading is worth it for vista owners. I got the upgrade for $50 so it wasn't too much a waste of money for me.

That seems odd, but at the same time I have read on another forum (more PC hardware) with people having a similar issue with MS bluetooth mice & keyboard.

azn370z · 11-04-2009, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer

That seems odd, but at the same time I have read on another forum (more PC hardware) with people having a similar issue with MS bluetooth mice & keyboard.

I have the entertainment 7000 keyboard and 8000 mouse. The only buttons that I have confirmed that won't work are the zoom buttons on my mouse. Not sure if the other entertainment buttons on the keyboard work. MS may bring more updates for their keyboards and mouse.

DIGItonium · 11-04-2009, 02:14 PM

My coworker, with the X58, said the same about his Logitech gaming keyboard. He says the driver was available to download from Logitech, but Win7 reported issues with the driver. Overall, he is very happy with Win7 over Vista.

In my situation, with the hardware listed, I'm doing very well. In fact, it's a smooth transition compared to Vista. Two years ago, I had to deal with the BSoD issue running setup or Vista with 4GB of memory. Then I regretted having a 680i SLI board (failed south bridge). Then I regretted the Thermaltake 600W PSU as it didn't have enough juice for the 8800GTS. Then I had lots of issues with the X-Fi Prelude (memory leak leading to hard locks). This time around, unfortunately, it's just a bad stick of memory.

So the P55, Lynnfield core, and HD 5850 (8800GT and GTS with previous builds, and back to ATI since X1800) combination is working quite marvelously. I've not tested gaming and BlueRay playback just yet. I'm nervous about my sound card drivers because Auzentech hasn't released anything new since July!

rackley · 11-05-2009, 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azn370z

I've been running win7 for about a week and I have to say it's pretty much like vista, and looks like it too. At first I was going to switch back to vista when win7 told me my ms bluetooth keyboard and mice wasn't compatible. I never had hardware or software problems with vista because I built a pc just for vista. I don't think upgrading is worth it for vista owners. I got the upgrade for $50 so it wasn't too much a waste of money for me.

Sounds like most of the functionality is there (base functionality + most "extra" buttons) but a few of the "extra" buttons don't work.

Turns out my coworker just got this keyboard/mouse. He loves it so far, but I'll ask him to check those buttons to see if he has the same issue.

Personally I've been running 7 since the Beta release as my daily OS (desktops at work and home, plus laptop) and I haven't had *any* issues with it. Most OEM stuff that was written for Vista "just works" under 7 and has been that way for a long time - before they even started writing it for 7.

1slow370 · 11-05-2009, 09:09 AM

I Permanently delete all my hard drives using an incredibly complicated process involving a sharp consumer 600w microwave circa 1980. works on standerd and solid state and is the only quick way of making sure your hard drive can NEVER be recovered. I can't remember what case it was but watched a show on court tv where a guy physically shredded his hard drive at a junkyard and they pieced the discs back together and f***** him.

DIGItonium · 11-05-2009, 09:35 AM

Ouchness... I have this Media Center remote that came with my OrigenAE S14V case. The only thing I can do is turn on/off my TV and computer, but I can't startup and control MCE with it.

What's strange is that my PC responds to the DVR button and launches MCE in some awkward video state and spits out TV card not installed error. Then I can get back to MCE and be able to control it with the remote. It seems like that MCE is some sort of shell, whereas manually launching is a different scope. [shrugs]

Other than that, SFIV runs nicely and plays well with the XBOX 360 controllers. UT2004, as with my previous builds, runs great. However, I'm still getting a frame rate problem with COD4 when I'm indoors. The same happen with my previous build (E6750 and 8800GTS G92) where the action gets a bit choppy when I'm inside a building.

10-30-2009, 01:32 PM	#78 (permalink)
DIGItonium A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Kansas Posts: 3,800 Drives: 09 Z34-TT 6MT Rep Power: 42	LOL! I don't know if FSB is still the term to use with i5 and i7 as they now refer to QPI. However, my BIOS indicates an adjustable base frequency of 133MHz and 20x multiplier (2.660 GHz). My system is still in pieces (have to remove optical drive cage to mess with memory). [shrugs] I don't keep myself updated with this stuff either haha. __________________

11-04-2009, 10:50 AM	#81 (permalink)
DIGItonium A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Kansas Posts: 3,800 Drives: 09 Z34-TT 6MT Rep Power: 42	Update - 11/04 Success! I've had my Lenovo U330 running for over a week with Win7 (from upgrade media) and Crucial SSD. Footprint is under 11GB with drivers and some applications installed. Performance is relatively snappy, and 3GB of memory actually feels like it. In fact, it's as fast as a typical desktop machine. I sold my 2nd upgrade media to one of my friends. His machine is an X58 with Core i7 920, 6GB of DDR3, and dual GTX 285 graphics cards. He already had a clean install of Vista running on a new hard drive and completed a clean install with the upgrade media. My 3rd copy is an OEM disc. My HTPC is nearly complete as it currently has 4GB of DDR3, and the other 4GB is currently RMA'd. The HD 5850 arrived last night. After some cutting (OrigenAE S14V hard drive cage had fitment issues), I managed to get everything fitting properly. After tweaking the system and installing some apps (just Firefox) and drivers on the X-25M, the footprint is around 7.93GB! This was down from 12GB and 10GB foot print! Anyhow, I'm still waiting for updated/fixed Intel X-25M firmware in hopes to boost performance as well as get TRIM working. HTPC Specs: OrigenAE S14V Corsair HX650 MSI P55M-GD45 Core i5 750 with Scythe Ninja Mini Rev B HSF 4x2GB G.Skill DDR3 1333MHz WD RaptorX 150GB (Carryover from previous build) Intel X-25M 80GB Sapphire HD 5850 Auzentech X-Fi Prelude (Carryover from previous build) My system was fairly quiet until I added in the graphics card. At idle, the fan is a bit louder than everything else. I'm still trying to optimize the system as well as improve airflow through the heatsink. The fan is currently pulling air through the heatsink due to size constraints. Plus, the Gelid PWM fan isn't all that great. It starts "buzzing" beyond 50% duty. Well, this concludes Win7 upgrade media installation and impressions. Compared to Vista, this installation was quite successful. Now if only BioShock 2 and MW2 comes out... __________________

11-04-2009, 11:04 AM	#82 (permalink)
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11-04-2009, 11:14 AM	#83 (permalink)
azn370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,722 Drives: z34 - R1 Rep Power: 490	I've been running win7 for about a week and I have to say it's pretty much like vista, and looks like it too. At first I was going to switch back to vista when win7 told me my ms bluetooth keyboard and mice wasn't compatible. I never had hardware or software problems with vista because I built a pc just for vista. I don't think upgrading is worth it for vista owners. I got the upgrade for $50 so it wasn't too much a waste of money for me. __________________ 2010 k23 H&R sport springs / Spc rear camber arms / SSR SP1 / Berk cbe / Varis cf lip / Nismo S-Tune side skirts

11-04-2009, 11:29 AM	#84 (permalink)
MightyBobo A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 8,465 Drives: No cars; only bikes Rep Power: 52	All early releases of OS's are buggy. Most everyone with experience will tell you - wait a few months at minimum after it comes out to upgrade... __________________ I don't own a car anymore.

11-04-2009, 02:14 PM	#87 (permalink)
DIGItonium A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Kansas Posts: 3,800 Drives: 09 Z34-TT 6MT Rep Power: 42	My coworker, with the X58, said the same about his Logitech gaming keyboard. He says the driver was available to download from Logitech, but Win7 reported issues with the driver. Overall, he is very happy with Win7 over Vista. In my situation, with the hardware listed, I'm doing very well. In fact, it's a smooth transition compared to Vista. Two years ago, I had to deal with the BSoD issue running setup or Vista with 4GB of memory. Then I regretted having a 680i SLI board (failed south bridge). Then I regretted the Thermaltake 600W PSU as it didn't have enough juice for the 8800GTS. Then I had lots of issues with the X-Fi Prelude (memory leak leading to hard locks). This time around, unfortunately, it's just a bad stick of memory. So the P55, Lynnfield core, and HD 5850 (8800GT and GTS with previous builds, and back to ATI since X1800) combination is working quite marvelously. I've not tested gaming and BlueRay playback just yet. I'm nervous about my sound card drivers because Auzentech hasn't released anything new since July! __________________

11-05-2009, 09:09 AM	#89 (permalink)
1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7251	I Permanently delete all my hard drives using an incredibly complicated process involving a sharp consumer 600w microwave circa 1980. works on standerd and solid state and is the only quick way of making sure your hard drive can NEVER be recovered. I can't remember what case it was but watched a show on court tv where a guy physically shredded his hard drive at a junkyard and they pieced the discs back together and f***** him.

11-05-2009, 09:35 AM	#90 (permalink)
DIGItonium A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Kansas Posts: 3,800 Drives: 09 Z34-TT 6MT Rep Power: 42	Ouchness... I have this Media Center remote that came with my OrigenAE S14V case. The only thing I can do is turn on/off my TV and computer, but I can't startup and control MCE with it. What's strange is that my PC responds to the DVR button and launches MCE in some awkward video state and spits out TV card not installed error. Then I can get back to MCE and be able to control it with the remote. It seems like that MCE is some sort of shell, whereas manually launching is a different scope. [shrugs] Other than that, SFIV runs nicely and plays well with the XBOX 360 controllers. UT2004, as with my previous builds, runs great. However, I'm still getting a frame rate problem with COD4 when I'm indoors. The same happen with my previous build (E6750 and 8800GTS G92) where the action gets a bit choppy when I'm inside a building. __________________

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