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Originally Posted by Davey I understand the concept of 5 and 6-lane highways with 55 mph speed limits all too well, but I find it very difficult, if not impossible,
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Ok anyway, that doesn't answer your question. The problem is a variety of factors that create an unsafe situation:
That's just a general list of things, don't take that as the ONLY factor but here's a source just so you know I'm not making this stuff up: Effects of Raising and Lowering Speed Limits That is an official study done by the DOT (department of transportation) by the way. They know the effects of a speed limit. Also, artificially lowering the speed limit is a more recent phenomena. The other issue is that our traffic speed has been around for ages and simply haven't been updated for modern road cars. Some since the 1950s. Do you know how slow cars were in the 1950s? I traffic survey from then would likely recommend the speed we have now because that's really all cars could do.
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Firstly unwinnable ? Who said that ? I dont need to win or lose fines, No thank you. I accept my speeding and all fines when i am in the wrong. Ill paint you a scenario, Try to keep up. You were speeding, You get caught, You fight it and you get away with it. Another person sees you as an example and carries this on. Now everyone is doing it because you can fight it. Merica. Speed limit here is considerably higher than America. However i feel that this speed limit is not justified and it should be higher. We are humans, We are just not satisfied. I dont really have any dog in this fight because we dont exactly fight fines. Spend time running around for a few measly bucks because you feel that the fine is not justified according to you and your studies. You really want to change those speed limits ? Instead of acting like a child and being a rebel about it, How about you gather a few people who think like you and like a civil human approach this as a mass issue. No you wont, You would rather get a speeding ticket, waste your time running around and be glad you won a pathetic little case . You think your few hundred dollars is going to hurt the government ? You are nothing but a rebel. I admit to being a rebel, I am probably even addicted to breaking rules, But i dont sit and whine about it saying its unfair for me to be accused for this because i read it in a study somewhere. Americans claim 'Freedom' everywhere they go.. How is it that you have not managed to change the speed limits ? Probably because instead of doing something about it, You sit and fight those shitty tickets and consider it a victory that you got away without paying for it I dont have anything against you, Or well americans, But that concept of taking everything to court even though you know full well that you were doing 60 in a 55 road is just pathetic. Probably same concept used by people who commit serious crimes and they walk. Grow up and accept your mistakes Or if you really want to enforce change, Do it like an adult, Not by getting a ticket and running to fight it. I am done with you, Because I know the kind of person you are, You are basically just a rebel like me, Fortunately for me, I just dont whine at **** i have done. Cheers
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Ok, so some actual complete sentences from you. Now we can have a dialogue. Unfortunately you've vomited so much nonsense that I'm going to have to respond to you like I did with the other one. Let's get started....
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BY THE WAY: Mods, please don't close this thread! I'm having so much fun here. =) Serious statement.
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Traffic engineers understand this stuff. Virtually no one else does. I have a very minor understanding of some of the principles because my father practiced traffic engineering for many years when I was a child. They still don't make a whole lot of sense to me lol But I know what you mean. Lowering the speed limit 5-10 mph below what the study finds to be the safest speed is not significantly altering the overall safety of the roadway. The problem I have is letting them get away with it at all. It's the principle. Municipalities shouldn't be taking advantage of their power to increase revenue at the expense of the public they are supposedly serving. Quote:
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![]() Based on this explanation and dP3NGU1N's I see what you guys are saying. If the road is comfortable doing 75 - 80 mph (which, our 4 - 6 lane loop sure is, though it's posted 55 mph) then you have some people going 80 mph, and some people going 55 mph, and that's worse than if they just let everyone go 80 mph. Also on the topic of cell phones and driving as it was brought up - I do not drive distracted, as much as humanly possible. While it may not be illegal to eat and drive or put on makeup and drive, you are still just as much of an ******* as the guy weaving around because he's text messaging and driving or camping in the left lane yakking away on the phone while obliviously pacing the car in the center lane while traffic piles up behind you. |
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Me a clown? lol. if you knew my background on this topic that'd be laughable. Ive forgotten more about this exact topic and legal statistics, procedures, theory, etc than you could ever "reword" from your google searches .... I never said contesting tickets is unwinnable hence the repeated word "rarely". I gave statistical likelihoods. An issue isnt determined by its extreme outcomes so posting 2 pics does nothing to change the fact that for every 2 that get out free of charge when they were in fact speeding, thousands do not. I dont think that can really be argued so I dont really understand which part of what Im saying you disagree with. Unless theres some place in the US in which high % of people caught speeding contest it and get out of it through a document they found on a free website...
And to those citing studies, it simply doesnt mean much. Studies, even federal ones, dont determine law in this country. Not that the studies arent good info, theyre just not limiting on the lawmakers and get ignored all the time. Studies show all kinds of things and even gov studies can include bias. Is it you want to live life by the gov study bc you feel its just or does the study just go along with your side of the topic so you use it? I guarantee I can find studies from the exact same entities that you dont want to follow... If you want to change the law, whining about this or that study and calling it bogus for a law enforcer to... enforce the law wont do it. The gov is using this as a way to make money... UMMM yeh and? This is the world we live in. Good luck with avoiding money making "scams" being forced upon you. Id posit that most decisions are made by mostly financial considerations regardless of entity, even your church... |
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Cant lie this forum makes me smile lol. Much better than the other car/bike forums I was on. Some amazing builds and such lively people lol. Now if only there were more FI options for these cars...
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I saw some idiot with a bumper made out of a 2x6. Constantly see cars that really should not be driven on a public road at all let alone going 70+ MPH when I'm on my way to work, with broken shocks/struts/springs or terrible alignment/bushings etc.
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I have a GREAT idea….Just Pay the ticket like everyone else would that owns Hi-Performance muscle whether it be a 370z, challenger, porsche etc. that would get one…and save the DRAMA and hype for your Parents as they probably would be the only ones that gives 2 *****.
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You clearly gave at least 1% of a **** because you decided to post something ![]() And can't we just have fun bullsh^tting this topic like all car people do. Geez, everyone gets so pissed so quick lol. Lastly, anyone with a sports car is more prone to speeding which means more tickets which means only 1 traffic school per 18 months... so you "need" to fight tickets to save up on traffic school (obvious argument is don't speed...) but lets face it... how many people in this forum don't go a few clicks over the speed limit... Maybe we should have this debate in a Chrysler Town and Country Minivan Forum.. SOCCER MOMS unite!!!! |
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Don't do the crime if you can't do the time (or pay the fine). Sure, driving fast in a 370Z is a LOT of fun - that's why we buy them ... but you have to do it responsibly. I like shooting guns but I don't do it in my backyard; I go to a place that is safe and the noise won't bother the neighbors. When I want to drive above the speed limit, I find the less-traveled road, make a pass or two to be sure the road is clear, and then have some fun.
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