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FPenvy 05-22-2015 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3206457)
That's because of the lower overall traffic and much more stringent driver education and licensing. Here it would be a disaster.

I remember on an old episode of top gear them showing the driver ed in finland? where the kids have to go through a lengthy course with on track skid pad in many situations testing. all prior to getting their license.

we have nothing at all lol

Bshields22 05-22-2015 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3206454)
honestly I feel the reason the limits have not been raised here is due to the cops not writing anyone until they are 10+ over. on the highway typically I see people only getting popped at 15+ over.

so if that would continue after a limit raise then yes I could see where raiding to 85 and people doing 95+ is an issue for most drivers.

honestly most drivers are not very skilled lol

but with ideal traffic conditions going a bit over I see no issue with if one is capable of doing so and ok with risking a ticket.

just did a 1600 mile round trip and 1/2 of the way down at very late hours I was the only car on my side of the road. warm dry conditions I went about 95 avg. no issues.

Exactly, 95 is quick but its not fast and dangerous. Now, 95 weaving in and out of traffic might be a different story...i know non of us have EVER done that before.....:stirthepot:

To your point earlier, with current advancement in automotive technology there is so much more a car is capable of in terms of accident avoidance and safety. Speed limit laws are not governing grandpas old Cadillac.

Also in terms of "laws" talking on a cell phone is illegal (just like speeding) but why isn't eating in the car anddoing makeup in the car illegal. Its arguably more dangerous....:tiphat:

Bshields22 05-22-2015 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3206457)
That's because of the lower overall traffic and much more stringent driver education and licensing. Here it would be a disaster.

LOLOL! oh man, i could only imagine....

Chuck33079 05-22-2015 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Bshields22 (Post 3206465)
Exactly, 95 is quick but its not fast and dangerous.

Maybe not for you. Keep in mind, the speed limit is designed for the lowest common denominator. You'll still have commercial vehicles and old people doing 55. Now you've got a 40 mph speed differential with drivers with reduced reaction times.

Just because you've got a sports car that handles 95 mph like it's nothing doesn't mean everyone does. Do you want some twunt in a SUV texting and driving along at 95 mph?

Bshields22 05-22-2015 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3206468)
Maybe not for you. Keep in mind, the speed limit is designed for the lowest common denominator. You'll still have commercial vehicles and old people doing 55. Now you've got a 40 mph speed differential with drivers with reduced reaction times.

Just because you've got a sports car that handles 95 mph like it's nothing doesn't mean everyone does. Do you want some twunt in a SUV texting and driving along at 95 mph?

That is true!

It's a very easy argument for a stagnant speed-limit because the safety benefits will always out weight the conveniences and "my car can handle it" people. Basic human nature will always push push push. freeway speed limit changes to 85 lets say...now people are "only going 15 over still" but now its 100 when they used to only go "15 over" at 85.

I think what will begin tipping the speedlimit to go faster will be technology advancements not public opinion. When the oldest car on the road has the advancements of current MB's/Lexus/Infinity. Might be a ways away for a somewhat large high speed adoption.

Chuck33079 05-22-2015 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Bshields22 (Post 3206473)
That is true!

It's a very easy argument for a stagnant speed-limit because the safety benefits will always out weight the conveniences and "my car can handle it" people. Basic human nature will always push push push. freeway speed limit changes to 85 lets say...now people are "only going 15 over still" but now its 100 when they used to only go "15 over" at 85.

I think what will begin tipping the speedlimit to go faster will be technology advancements not public opinion. When the oldest car on the road has the advancements of current MB's/Lexus/Infinity. Might be a ways away for a somewhat large high speed adoption.

Then we need to mandate safety inspections. Some jackass rolling around on bald tires or with shot brakes ruins this whole plan.

Bshields22 05-22-2015 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3206474)
Then we need to mandate safety inspections. Some jackass rolling around on bald tires or with shot brakes ruins this whole plan.

Yep...

Cheers to better and better radar detectors and defense attorneys!!

Chuck33079 05-22-2015 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Bshields22 (Post 3206479)
Yep...

Cheers to better and better radar detectors and defense attorneys!!

Yeah, speeding tickets are really the lesser evil compared to higher speed limits. That's a slippery slope with a LOT of unintended consequences. I'll just roll the dice and if I crap out I fight it and win or lose and pay the ticket.

dP3NGU1N 05-22-2015 03:57 PM

I'll just leave this here....

Never Speed In Virginia: Lessons From My Three Days In Jail

dP3NGU1N 05-22-2015 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3206474)
Then we need to mandate safety inspections. Some jackass rolling around on bald tires or with shot brakes ruins this whole plan.

Most Europeans find it abhorrent that Americans can get away with not having their cars inspected once a year. It's federally mandated in the UK. So everyone on the road, if they are registered, has had all their fluids flushed within the year, tire pressures checked, et al.

darkphantom 05-22-2015 04:01 PM

Mandatory driver's license tests are more like it! There are WAY too many people on the roads who have no idea how to properly signal or drive!

The Germans have a mandatory test every year, especially if you want to drive on the autobahn

Chuck33079 05-22-2015 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by dP3NGU1N (Post 3206483)
Most Europeans find it abhorrent that Americans can get away with not having their cars inspected once a year. It's federally mandated in the UK. So everyone on the road, if they are registered, has had all their fluids flushed within the year, tire pressures checked, et al.

All we care about here is if the emissions are in line. As long as the trees are safe, screw the other drivers. :rofl2:

Bshields22 05-22-2015 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by dP3NGU1N (Post 3206482)

Long read but very entertaining. Next time I'm in VA, I'll rent a Prius

dP3NGU1N 05-22-2015 04:11 PM

The problem is America is too free with it's individual's rights. There is no courtesy, there is no reserved passing lane, people barely ever signal; these offences are all reserved for the biggest ******** in Europe while they're common place within the US. We don't have a culture of allowing a faster lane - it's always me, me, me, and MY rights. I'm allowed to be in the left most lane because I exist, even though I'm only going 45 on a 55mph motorway. If you tried that in Italy they'll run you out of the country (as my girlfriend found out). Other countries simply treat driving differently. We treat it as a right, everyone else treats it as a privilege (there are exceptions, I'm generalizing here). Everyone's comments about raising the speed limit seems far fetched because the average American simply cannot be trusted with the responsibility of higher speed. And it's not necessarily anyone's fault. It's just how our road going society evolved - we essentially invented the modern day automobile. We treated it as manifest destiny.

And this isn't just with driving. Everytime I'm in a different country there are always areas for passing. Everyone stands to one side on escalators so people in a hurry can run by. Embarrassingly, if not for the language spoken I can often mistake Americans for people from mainland China. Whenever I land back in states, I know it, because all sense of courtesy disappears. Our airports are ******* zoos. International traveler should be able to back me up on this because I don't think my experiences are isolated. If you compare LAX to Hethrow, Hong Kong, Incheon, or Munich they're all quiet and orderly and courteous in comparison to our gorillas at the TSA.

Please don't mistake my comments and observations for hating the US. I live here and I call this country my home. But there's a lot we can learn from other countries if only we'd try. But we won't because that's not what Americans do.

Ok, I apologize. /rant

jmayz 05-22-2015 04:21 PM

Some times you have to speed. Like when the piece of junk Ford Taurus pulls up next to you on the highway revving his whiny little engine. It's my American right to show him what 6th to 4th gear looks like from the sidelines!


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