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Originally Posted by EZT How about man up to speeding, and pay your dues. LMAO!!! Extortion

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Old 05-21-2015, 07:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Just pay it. Nobody beats the judicial system.
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Just pay it. Nobody beats the judicial system.
Umm.... I have. Multiple times. You just need to do it. Laziness from the general pop is what allows them to do this. If everyone fought their tickets, cities would lose money on every ticket they write. It would de-incentivise them from writing further tickets based on revenue alone.
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If anyone is interested in educating themselves, here's some reading material on how the speed limit is a scam and that engineering surveys often show that the final set speed limits are often ridiculously conservative.

The Truth About Speed Limits | NMA

Effects Of Raising And Lowering Speed limits

Speed Limits - Join The NMA

Do speed limits reduce the number of road deaths? | News | The Guardian

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BKdbxX1pDw

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I got a speeding ticket in the 80's. I paid it.

Those were crazy times, though.
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I got a speeding ticket in the 80's. I paid it.

Those were crazy times, though.
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Hmm. I'd say just from the available empirical data at the links, its a mixed bag of findings. The 24 hr experimental change, for example, is hard to interpret because there are likely well established norms for driving the roads selected for the study that held greater sway than any unexpected changes in postings.

I do agree that much of enforcement is aimed at revenue generation and that frequently speed limits are set somewhat arbitrarily.

I've often thought there should be floating limits that vary according to time of day, traffic flow etc, all of which can be easily tracked now. If a road has five cars on it, bump up the limit 10 - 15 mph.

We actually already do this for "school zones" during school hrs, so why not for all major thoroughfares?
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I do agree speed limits are too low on a lot of roads. Our loop here is 55 mph... it's 5 lanes wide in places and deserted as a ghost town at 8 PM on a weekday usually. Typical speed is 70 MPH when there is moderate traffic.

Last weekend coming back from TN through KY (saw a bunch of Z's cruising together) it seems the typical speed was 85 in a 70 mph zone.

IMO, it's not so much the speed that's a problem as it is the consistency. You can have a bunch of people going 80 mph on a straight road with 5 lanes, but throw a few Grandmas going 54 mph and you get a lot of crazy swerving and lane-changing and that's where you get much higher potential for accidents.
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I rarely get tickets, and it's not for lack of trying.

When you get pulled over, pull over quickly. Engine off. Windows down. Keys on dash, hands on wheel. I don't reach for ANYTHING until he's at my window and I explain what I'm reaching for and then I do it SLOWLY. 9 out of 10 times, I get a warning.

For that 10th time, I get a lawyer. Because I have a good traffic attorney, my insurance company has no record of any ticket more recent than 1999.
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In NM if it's on a highway it doesn't count against your insurance. You pay about 100 bucks and move on. I call it my speeding tax. I pay extra to drive faster than everybody else!
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In NM if it's on a highway it doesn't count against your insurance. You pay about 100 bucks and move on. I call it my speeding tax. I pay extra to drive faster than everybody else!
I wish we had that here. I would not care at all lol

I still would love if there was a driving test to determine one's abilities then that determines speed limits but that will never work since most drivers are just awful lol
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ummm, i kinda feel like i'm talking to my son here but if you don't want a speeding ticket then don't speed... no one has the right to break the law... you don't have to agree with it but that doesn't give you the right to ignore it... not trying to sound like a prude here but without laws our society would be more of a mess than it already is
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ummm, i kinda feel like i'm talking to my son here but if you don't want a speeding ticket then don't speed... no one has the right to break the law... you don't have to agree with it but that doesn't give you the right to ignore it... not trying to sound like a prude here but without laws our society would be more of a mess than it already is
I will agree with you. but with speed limits I do not. I follow them somewhat locally but highway nah. in PA the best we got is 60/65mph. i'm sorry that's not acceptable on a major highway.

speed limits haven't changed in about 30 years or so and cars/roads have.

only place that's advancing with the times is Texas and that 85mph highway or whatever they opened.

why is it that the USA is still thinking it's 1950 when places like Germany have the unrestricted autobahn? well maybe it's due to most us cars are typically garbage compared to their german rivals lol
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I will agree with you. but with speed limits I do not. I follow them somewhat locally but highway nah. in PA the best we got is 60/65mph. i'm sorry that's not acceptable on a major highway.

speed limits haven't changed in about 30 years or so and cars/roads have.

only place that's advancing with the times is Texas and that 85mph highway or whatever they opened.

why is it that the USA is still thinking it's 1950 when places like Germany have the unrestricted autobahn? well maybe it's due to most us cars are typically garbage compared to their german rivals lol
Well said! I need to find the source i heard this from but i heard that there are far less traffic accidents on the autobahn then on the freeways here. Only caveat to that those is there is a slightly higher percentage of fatal accidents that do happen. In summary though, autobahn is safer than our freeways.

I feel that most of us on a daily basis go about 10-15 over the speed-limit for all speed limits. Only in ideal situations do we go 90-100 on the freeway or open highway in the middle of the desert, alone on the road. I think tickets should begin at at least 15-20 over. Anything should be able to be justified.
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Well said! I need to find the source i heard this from but i heard that there are far less traffic accidents on the autobahn then on the freeways here. Only caveat to that those is there is a slightly higher percentage of fatal accidents that do happen. In summary though, autobahn is safer than our freeways.

I feel that most of us on a daily basis go about 10-15 over the speed-limit for all speed limits. Only in ideal situations do we go 90-100 on the freeway or open highway in the middle of the desert, alone on the road. I think tickets should begin at at least 15-20 over. Anything should be able to be justified.
honestly I feel the reason the limits have not been raised here is due to the cops not writing anyone until they are 10+ over. on the highway typically I see people only getting popped at 15+ over.

so if that would continue after a limit raise then yes I could see where raiding to 85 and people doing 95+ is an issue for most drivers.

honestly most drivers are not very skilled lol

but with ideal traffic conditions going a bit over I see no issue with if one is capable of doing so and ok with risking a ticket.

just did a 1600 mile round trip and 1/2 of the way down at very late hours I was the only car on my side of the road. warm dry conditions I went about 95 avg. no issues.
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