Small reward to help me get my money back from GTM.

Infiniti370z · 02-04-2015, 10:32 PM

Hello fellow Z family, my name is Andy, so as most of you already know about a year and a half ago, I purchased a MHI group buy tt kit. I still have not received a refund for the money I paid Sam for the kit. I have tried everything, paypal said sorry and go f@$! your self and so did my bank, then I waited for Sam to deliver but to no surprise (I know, flame suit on) never did. But now GTM doesn't answer my calls, I am pretty sure they are screening them, I've tried every number. So I finally filed a small claims case against Sam. It's going to suck because I am not made of money and taking the days off is going to hurt let alone the trip from Florida to California. So I was wondering if anyone would like a small reward if you can get Sam to send me my refund before the court hearing and save the trip. Maybe like $500 or maybe I buy you some parts? I really need the money to buy my little brother a car to get to school in. Contact me @ nine five four-six eight two-two eight zero six at any time thank you.

Infiniti370z · 02-04-2015, 10:57 PM

Sorry mods, please move to appropriate section if I am violating any rules or spread it to all sections to help get the word out, thank you.

chops · 02-05-2015, 12:12 AM

goodluck. GTM ran what was essentially a ponzi scheme. sorry that i cant help!

reaaallly long thread about it here: Reflections on GTM over the years

NoLaKrewe · 02-05-2015, 04:53 AM

The easiest and most effective way would be to Google his address. Leave your cell phone at home and make a drive with some friends.

With that said,
You may NEVER get your money back legally and he may NEVER suffer any consequences from that. Murica.

Merv · 02-05-2015, 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoLaKrewe

The easiest and most effective way would be to Google his address. Leave your cell phone at home and make a drive with some friends.

With that said,
You may NEVER get your money back legally and he may NEVER suffer any consequences from that. Murica.

I like the way you think!

Infiniti370z · 02-05-2015, 06:10 AM

Trust me I know all about the reflections thread, the idea is for someone local to go to his shop and keep bothering the sh!t out of him till he pays up. If he was local to me, it would be a whole different ball game....

Amj2020 · 02-05-2015, 10:03 AM

I would go see the guy in person, and let him know how much I wanted my money back, as I dont appreciate being robbed. He would have seen my point...I assure you. That being said, why not try and get your attorney to get the other people in on the case. Sadly I dont think this is a class action matter as the money in question is probably not enough. Makes me sad to be a human sometimes.

jdsto · 02-05-2015, 10:51 AM

Unfortunately courts may award you the funds but they don't collect them for you. Even if you win you may still not get your money.

Zbrah · 02-05-2015, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by jdsto

Unfortunately courts may award you the funds but they don't collect them for you. Even if you win you may still not get your money.

He can petition a court ordered levy on GTM's bank accounts for the amount GTM owed to him. It may take a while plus additional court fees but not all hopes are lost.

BC416 · 02-05-2015, 11:31 AM

Is this guy in witness protection or something? With all these horror stories I'm reading about GTM, you'd think someone would have found him by now. If someone cheated me out of $1000s of dollars and I knew who it was, you better believe I'd be taking some PTO time from work to pay him a visit.

DEpointfive0 · 02-05-2015, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BC416

Is this guy in witness protection or something? With all these horror stories I'm reading about GTM, you'd think someone would have found him by now. If someone cheated me out of $1000s of dollars and I knew who it was, you better believe I'd be taking some PTO time from work to pay him a visit.

Funny that many people talk **** and big game.

Not many people are actually violent and will go and beat someone over $10k. Reason usually kicks in and you know it will cost you more than $10k...

But please, to the guys who want his address... It's online, GTM's is currently moving, so run over as fast as you can so you can beat his àss. Nothing would make me happier.

I'll even tell you what car to look for. A white Toyota Yaris. If that car is there 99% chance he's there. He doesn't drive, his wife drives him to work since the brain cancer... So... He might be there even if the car isn't there.

OP, as much as I'd not like to say that you're wasting your time by coming out... You're wasting your time. Sam will not show up to court, and you will win. You probably aren't going to be getting your money back though... Because he won't pay. Best scenario when you get to CA, take a bunch of shít back with you... Like 1.5 times as much value as to what you paid and try to sell it all.

Good luck

BC416 · 02-05-2015, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

Funny that many people talk **** and big game.

Not many people are actually violent and will go and beat someone over $10k. Reason usually kicks in and you know it will cost you more than $10k...

But please, to the guys who want his address... It's online, GTM's is currently moving, so run over as fast as you can so you can beat his àss. Nothing would make me happier.

I'll even tell you what car to look for. A white Toyota Yaris. If that car is there 99% chance he's there. He doesn't drive, his wife drives him to work since the brain cancer... So... He might be there even if the car isn't there.

OP, as much as I'd not like to say that you're wasting your time by coming out... You're wasting your time. Sam will not show up to court, and you will win. You probably aren't going to be getting your money back though... Because he won't pay. Best scenario when you get to CA, take a bunch of shít back with you... Like 1.5 times as much value as to what you paid and try to sell it all.

Good luck

IDK about the above bolded. People get into trouble all the time over a whole lot less than 10k. This guy is really lucky he didn't steal from someone who would get violent over that amount of money.

I just find it odd that this guy KNOWINGLY stole thousands of dollars from people on this site and hasn't even showed up to say anything about it and nobody has tried to visit them.

DEpointfive0 · 02-05-2015, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BC416

IDK about the above bolded. People get into trouble all the time over a whole lot less than 10k. This guy is really lucky he didn't steal from someone who would get violent over that amount of money.

I just find it odd that this guy KNOWINGLY stole thousands of dollars from people on this site and hasn't even showed up to say anything about it and nobody has tried to visit them.

I agree with you. But most people arent violent enough to actually get in someone's face and beat them over $10k. More than likely people catch a beating for insulting someone's family or whatever...

And again, the second part of the statement was that reason kicks in and says that IF you go kick the guy's àss for taking your money... You'll not only not get the $10k, but it will cost you more than $10k to get you out of jail...

OP is costing himself probably $3k to collect $7k. And the odds of ACTUALLY collecting that $7k is slim to none. Again OP, best bet is to do what the other guy did. Cash out on oil pans and sell them at a loss.

Tadpole · 02-05-2015, 11:38 AM

Yup....road trip time....stalk him home and ring his door bell asking for your money back. This tends to get someones attention if you know and they know where he lives.

Worked for me a few times....

TerribleONE · 02-05-2015, 11:41 AM

PM me his address and I will go pay him a visit

02-04-2015, 10:32 PM	#1 (permalink)
Infiniti370z Track Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Coconut Creek, FL Posts: 604 Drives: Lamborghinis all day Rep Power: 16	Small reward to help me get my money back from GTM. Hello fellow Z family, my name is Andy, so as most of you already know about a year and a half ago, I purchased a MHI group buy tt kit. I still have not received a refund for the money I paid Sam for the kit. I have tried everything, paypal said sorry and go f@$! your self and so did my bank, then I waited for Sam to deliver but to no surprise (I know, flame suit on) never did. But now GTM doesn't answer my calls, I am pretty sure they are screening them, I've tried every number. So I finally filed a small claims case against Sam. It's going to suck because I am not made of money and taking the days off is going to hurt let alone the trip from Florida to California. So I was wondering if anyone would like a small reward if you can get Sam to send me my refund before the court hearing and save the trip. Maybe like $500 or maybe I buy you some parts? I really need the money to buy my little brother a car to get to school in. Contact me @ nine five four-six eight two-two eight zero six at any time thank you. Haboob and mag_black like this. __________________ //RAYS ENGINEERING//Z1 MOTORSPORTS//NISMO//RADI-CAL BBK//SPARCO//3M//ESCORT//BLENDMOUNT//BOSE//AAM//GTR//THE RETROFIT SOURCE//MILLENNIA 2014 Nismo BLK//2004 Sentra SE-R Spec-v//2013 Prius 4//Sold 2010 370z GM base 6MT Last edited by Infiniti370z; 02-06-2015 at 08:40 AM.

02-04-2015, 10:57 PM	#2 (permalink)
Infiniti370z Track Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Coconut Creek, FL Posts: 604 Drives: Lamborghinis all day Rep Power: 16	Sorry mods, please move to appropriate section if I am violating any rules or spread it to all sections to help get the word out, thank you. __________________ //RAYS ENGINEERING//Z1 MOTORSPORTS//NISMO//RADI-CAL BBK//SPARCO//3M//ESCORT//BLENDMOUNT//BOSE//AAM//GTR//THE RETROFIT SOURCE//MILLENNIA 2014 Nismo BLK//2004 Sentra SE-R Spec-v//2013 Prius 4//Sold 2010 370z GM base 6MT

02-05-2015, 04:53 AM	#4 (permalink)
NoLaKrewe Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: NoLa Posts: 469 Drives: 2011 FJ//2015 370z Rep Power: 13	The easiest and most effective way would be to Google his address. Leave your cell phone at home and make a drive with some friends. With that said, You may NEVER get your money back legally and he may NEVER suffer any consequences from that. Murica. osbornsm and Merv like this. __________________ Starting a NoLa Z club https://www.facebook.com/groups/TheBigeZClub/ The struggle will be real!

02-05-2015, 06:10 AM	#6 (permalink)
Infiniti370z Track Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Coconut Creek, FL Posts: 604 Drives: Lamborghinis all day Rep Power: 16	Trust me I know all about the reflections thread, the idea is for someone local to go to his shop and keep bothering the sh!t out of him till he pays up. If he was local to me, it would be a whole different ball game.... __________________ //RAYS ENGINEERING//Z1 MOTORSPORTS//NISMO//RADI-CAL BBK//SPARCO//3M//ESCORT//BLENDMOUNT//BOSE//AAM//GTR//THE RETROFIT SOURCE//MILLENNIA 2014 Nismo BLK//2004 Sentra SE-R Spec-v//2013 Prius 4//Sold 2010 370z GM base 6MT

02-05-2015, 10:03 AM	#7 (permalink)
Amj2020 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: NY/LI Posts: 393 Drives: MB Z,Jeep,BMW Rep Power: 14	I would go see the guy in person, and let him know how much I wanted my money back, as I dont appreciate being robbed. He would have seen my point...I assure you. That being said, why not try and get your attorney to get the other people in on the case. Sadly I dont think this is a class action matter as the money in question is probably not enough. Makes me sad to be a human sometimes. __________________ 2012 Magnetic Black 370z \| Fast Intentions CBE \| Stillen G3 \| Motordyne ART \| H&R Coilovers \| Work Emotion \| Fujimura \| Uprev \| Amuse\| GT-R Start

02-05-2015, 12:12 AM	#3 (permalink)
chops A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: NA Posts: 1,732 Drives: NA Rep Power: 22	goodluck. GTM ran what was essentially a ponzi scheme. sorry that i cant help! reaaallly long thread about it here: Reflections on GTM over the years

02-05-2015, 10:51 AM	#8 (permalink)
jdsto Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Toronto Posts: 250 Drives: Honda VFR800F 2015 Rep Power: 18	Unfortunately courts may award you the funds but they don't collect them for you. Even if you win you may still not get your money. __________________ Gone but not forgotten

02-05-2015, 11:31 AM	#10 (permalink)
BC416 Track Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: NJ Age: 38 Posts: 718 Drives: 2012 KAD 6MT Rep Power: 592	Is this guy in witness protection or something? With all these horror stories I'm reading about GTM, you'd think someone would have found him by now. If someone cheated me out of $1000s of dollars and I knew who it was, you better believe I'd be taking some PTO time from work to pay him a visit. TerribleONE and Pintsize725 like this. __________________ F.I. / K&N / 180 / Forgestar

02-05-2015, 11:38 AM	#14 (permalink)
Tadpole A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Lockhart, TX Posts: 1,082 Drives: 13 Nissan 370Z A7 Rep Power: 18	Yup....road trip time....stalk him home and ring his door bell asking for your money back. This tends to get someones attention if you know and they know where he lives. Worked for me a few times.... __________________ Takeda TR3009P Short Ram Intakes, Custom Dual Exhaust, X-Piped with 18" Resonators & TopSpeed Axle Backs. EVO-R Led Third Foglight,

02-05-2015, 11:41 AM	#15 (permalink)
TerribleONE A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Socal Posts: 10,203 Drives: WOT Rep Power: 5851	PM me his address and I will go pay him a visit osbornsm, Pintsize725, 6MT-Z34 and 3 others like this. __________________ 638WHP 541WTQ @ 13.5PSI Build thread

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