hello everyone

cbaumy34 · 01-11-2011, 10:44 AM

Hey, I finally decided to register after months of browsing through existing threads. I recently sold my 2004 srt4 with about 300whp to help me finish school. I currently have three semesters left and when i graduate I am planning on getting either a EvoX or a 370Z. which leads me to my first question that has been asked a million times but for those that have owned many more cars than me what is your opinion on the above cars, I know they are complete opposites just curious which is more desirable for a car to mod, drive on nice days, and ocasional track use. Also sorry this is the wrong section I am sure. Either way thanks in advance for all the future knowledge i will get from this site.

WarmAndSCSI · 01-11-2011, 01:01 PM

Where to start, where to start....

First off, both the Evo X and 370Z are relatively expensive cars. Minimum $550/month payment without a trade-in, plus insane insurance (more so for the 370Z actually), and then rigorous maintenance costs.

What are you majoring in? How do you know you're guaranteed a job in this rough economy? How much school debt do you have to pay off? Clearly you're not making any cash on the side if you had to sell your SRT-4 and replace it with a Buick Park Avenue...

My general rule of thumb is to not try to finance or own a car that costs more than 75% of what you make. Why? Because you simply cannot afford it.

I know this isn't the answer you were looking for and I'm being kind of an a**hole, but I'm just giving it to you straight. I'm 22 and I own a highly modified Evo X and a '10 370Z. I can tell you the pro's and con's of both, but what I can tell you that trumps any of that is you most likely cannot afford either, so don't even bother. Don't be like these imbeciles I notice every day who make $35k (if that), and are somehow trying to scrape by while making a payment + insurance + maintenance on a nearly $40,000 car. It's ridiculous. I don't care if you *think* you can afford X or Y, I'm just trying to save you the headache of trying to sell your car, or having it repo'd when you get canned upon the next economic downturn. Find the means, then pull the trigger. Until then, just leave your pipe dreams alone.

vividracing · 01-11-2011, 10:56 PM

welcome to the community! your pretty much looking at awd turbo with great tuning ability or a rear wheel drive sports car that's refined and balance. Test drive them both and see which one you'd like. payments & insurance is going to be a lot higher then your srt-4!

cbaumy34 · 01-12-2011, 02:04 PM

well i was hoping for a little warmer welcome here. I am researching for a future purchase here after school when the money is there. i am majoring in finance and minoring in insurance( possible double majoring). I really am not to worried about the job market in these categories but it is what it is. I simply asked pros and cons and for opinions. By the way what do you do for a living 22 years old and about 100k worth of cars and parts seems a little odd( just curious). The reason I sold the Srt4 was solely for financial security and the park avenue was a freebie. Anyways id like more opinions on the pros and cons and a little less on the money factor ill handle that by myself. thank you

WarmAndSCSI · 01-12-2011, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by cbaumy34

well i was hoping for a little warmer welcome here. I am researching for a future purchase here after school when the money is there. i am majoring in finance and minoring in insurance( possible double majoring). I really am not to worried about the job market in these categories but it is what it is. I simply asked pros and cons and for opinions. By the way what do you do for a living 22 years old and about 100k worth of cars and parts seems a little odd( just curious). The reason I sold the Srt4 was solely for financial security and the park avenue was a freebie. Anyways id like more opinions on the pros and cons and a little less on the money factor ill handle that by myself. thank you

I'd rather give you a warm kick in the pants than put on a facade of "oh hi there, welcome to the site!" Seems a lot more useful to me

But you've come down to 2 very good choices for cars that are very well built, come quick out of the box, have nice-ish (ish referring to the Evo) interiors, and are relatively affordable. If you envision wanting to modify the car and make it much faster than stock, go with the Evo. If you don't plan on doing any modifications to the car, choose the 370Z. It is a much better driver's car - stock-for-stock - than the Evo X. It is better balanced, smoother, lighter, more horsepower, etc... I honestly prefer how the stock 370Z drives to the Evo X. It's tighter and more responsive.

I will tell you that insurance on the 370Z will cost almost 2x as much as for the Evo X. It's purely ridiculous how expensive it is. My Evo retailed at around $37.5k ... the Z was more like $34k. It doesn't make any sense to me that our Z literally costs twice as much to insure as the slightly older Evo X. The Evo is BY FAR more expensive to repair because of all of its moving parts.

And to answer your question, I sell and market illicit drugs for a living. But no, not really, I'm a senior software developer and also do contract software work on the side.

cbaumy34 · 01-13-2011, 10:18 AM

i really appreciate the insight and i knew you sold drugs lol

, but yea if all works out with school and life after school those are the two iv narrowed it down too, but if a new car comes out that I like the list may change. I do plan on modding but nothing major until the warranty goes so exhaust, intake, rims, gauges a new interior( if the evo wins), and suspension, but in the end i would like to go big turbo. How do you like the awd compared to rwd?

dixon cider · 03-31-2011, 02:07 AM

Angel · 05-26-2011, 06:03 AM

Hello everyone,

My Name is Angel Smith this my first post in this forums..

Dzel · 05-26-2011, 06:53 AM

I wouldn't even worry about a car until you start working. Concentrate on school and puttng your foot in the door with a company. I make good money but I made sure that all was taken care of for my family before I even thought about getting the Z

jayl · 07-23-2011, 10:25 AM

Spam!!!

Vaughanabe13 · 07-26-2011, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarmAndSCSI

I'd rather give you a warm kick in the pants than put on a facade of "oh hi there, welcome to the site!" Seems a lot more useful to me

But you've come down to 2 very good choices for cars that are very well built, come quick out of the box, have nice-ish (ish referring to the Evo) interiors, and are relatively affordable. If you envision wanting to modify the car and make it much faster than stock, go with the Evo. If you don't plan on doing any modifications to the car, choose the 370Z. It is a much better driver's car - stock-for-stock - than the Evo X. It is better balanced, smoother, lighter, more horsepower, etc... I honestly prefer how the stock 370Z drives to the Evo X. It's tighter and more responsive.

I will tell you that insurance on the 370Z will cost almost 2x as much as for the Evo X. It's purely ridiculous how expensive it is. My Evo retailed at around $37.5k ... the Z was more like $34k. It doesn't make any sense to me that our Z literally costs twice as much to insure as the slightly older Evo X. The Evo is BY FAR more expensive to repair because of all of its moving parts.

And to answer your question, I sell and market illicit drugs for a living. But no, not really, I'm a senior software developer and also do contract software work on the side.

Saying you're a software developer doesn't explain how you can afford both of those cars at age 22. I'm a software engineer and make a good salary (enough to afford a 370 at least) but I didn't graduate college until I was 22.5 and even though I don't have any student loans or debt, I don't have a huge stockpile of money to blow either. The only thing I can think of is you come from a well off family and already had a pretty good savings, or you didn't go to a 4 year school, or you literally just graduated and you're really confident that you won't lose your job so you justify the high monthly payments. Not trying to be a **** here, but I'm actually pretty interested in how you can afford both cars at age 22. Maybe you're a genius that skipped three grades in elementary school or something? Or drugs, haha.

please · 08-05-2011, 03:58 AM

someone own the 370Z ，i think if the owner can buy lamp bulb ，it is a good choice！

mr_sk · 08-05-2011, 10:31 AM

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Saying you're a software developer doesn't explain how you can afford both of those cars at age 22. I'm a software engineer and make a good salary (enough to afford a 370 at least) but I didn't graduate college until I was 22.5 and even though I don't have any student loans or debt, I don't have a huge stockpile of money to blow either. The only thing I can think of is you come from a well off family and already had a pretty good savings, or you didn't go to a 4 year school, or you literally just graduated and you're really confident that you won't lose your job so you justify the high monthly payments. Not trying to be a **** here, but I'm actually pretty interested in how you can afford both cars at age 22. Maybe you're a genius that skipped three grades in elementary school or something? Or drugs, haha.

Word, you can't get "senior" at 22, unless you started professionally writing software at 16~18, but you can't have a full-time job unless you dropped out of school.

I got senior status around ~27 after 5~6 years of rigorous software development, ranging from c/win32 to some embedded to perl/php and tons of DB (sqllite, mssql, mysql, etc) and managing teams of 3-4.

I'm sure you are a software dev, and you might be super f'n talented and develop at a senior level, but at 22 you haven't been through enough software release cycles to be truly senior, IMO. And senior also means some management / team lead experience...

Not trying to knock you dood, heh.

Actually, you might totally be a vuln researcher and that I can believe you are senior at 22, though pretty f'n rare and you should be at BH/DF right now, = ].

EDIT: Maybe you meant 32?

EDIT: The contract side work is super lucrative. I taught iOS bootcamps through 09-10 and made more than the average US salary just in consulting money that year... so it's totally possible at 22 he can make great loot. I'm just curious how you got senior by 22...

dannsalik · 08-11-2011, 03:15 PM

Hi, I'm Dann from New York, I'm Newbie here glad to join this forum community .. I hope for the good stay here ...
Looking for your reviews ..
Thanks in advance

chuckd05 · 11-10-2011, 12:42 AM

well you made him feel anything but warmandscsi...

What you said to the OP is pretty rude, and your judging his whole life but a 4 sentence post while tooting your own horn... i know I'm late here... but this is the crap i see on the 350 site, not here...

To the OP, if you want to mod to go fast straight evo x. if you want a nicer looking better drivers car get the Z... but I sold my Z and after thousands in mods I had wished I left it stock, and saved money... You can spend money to make it look nice but other than some HFC I don't think its worth modding the Z for the 40 whp you pick up for thousands... My new car that was factory turbo-ed for under 500 dollars i picked up 80 hp and tq in 30 minutes by simply installing a piggy back tune... the evo x is in that category of car that rewards you for mods rather generously...

have you made any decision yet ?

01-11-2011, 10:44 AM	#1 (permalink)
cbaumy34 Base Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: lakevilla, IL Posts: 3 Drives: 99 buick parkave(lol Rep Power: 14	hello everyone Hey, I finally decided to register after months of browsing through existing threads. I recently sold my 2004 srt4 with about 300whp to help me finish school. I currently have three semesters left and when i graduate I am planning on getting either a EvoX or a 370Z. which leads me to my first question that has been asked a million times but for those that have owned many more cars than me what is your opinion on the above cars, I know they are complete opposites just curious which is more desirable for a car to mod, drive on nice days, and ocasional track use. Also sorry this is the wrong section I am sure. Either way thanks in advance for all the future knowledge i will get from this site.

01-11-2011, 01:01 PM	#2 (permalink)
WarmAndSCSI A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: SLC, UT Posts: 1,671 Drives: '08 Evo X \| '10 370Z Rep Power: 18	Where to start, where to start.... First off, both the Evo X and 370Z are relatively expensive cars. Minimum $550/month payment without a trade-in, plus insane insurance (more so for the 370Z actually), and then rigorous maintenance costs. What are you majoring in? How do you know you're guaranteed a job in this rough economy? How much school debt do you have to pay off? Clearly you're not making any cash on the side if you had to sell your SRT-4 and replace it with a Buick Park Avenue... My general rule of thumb is to not try to finance or own a car that costs more than 75% of what you make. Why? Because you simply cannot afford it. I know this isn't the answer you were looking for and I'm being kind of an a*hole, but I'm just giving it to you straight. I'm 22 and I own a highly modified Evo X and a '10 370Z. I can tell you the pro's and con's of both, but what I can tell you that trumps any of that is you most likely cannot afford either, so don't even bother. Don't be like these imbeciles I notice every day who make $35k (if that), and are somehow trying to scrape by while making a payment + insurance + maintenance on a nearly $40,000 car. It's ridiculous. I don't care if you think* you can afford X or Y, I'm just trying to save you the headache of trying to sell your car, or having it repo'd when you get canned upon the next economic downturn. Find the means, then pull the trigger. Until then, just leave your pipe dreams alone. __________________ '10 PW 370Z 7AT - wife's car - Project Raspberry Cheesecake '08 Evo X - built motor+trans \| BB-X @ 32 psi \| CH3OH \| self-built+tuned - ??? WHP '01 Galant V6 - built motor \| GT35R \| self-built+tuned - 550+ WHP (retired)

01-11-2011, 10:56 PM	#3 (permalink)
vividracing The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Gilbert, AZ Age: 38 Posts: 7,306 Drives: 350Z,370Z,GTR Rep Power: 39	welcome to the community! your pretty much looking at awd turbo with great tuning ability or a rear wheel drive sports car that's refined and balance. Test drive them both and see which one you'd like. payments & insurance is going to be a lot higher then your srt-4! __________________ Rocky @ Vivid ♦ 480.966.3040 x236 ♦ Rocky@vividracing.com Email, PM, or call me directly for aggressive The370Z.com member pricing!!!

03-31-2011, 02:07 AM	#7 (permalink)
dixon cider A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: STL Posts: 6,034 Drives: ONE BAD AZZ VERT Rep Power: 30	__________________ GTM INVIDIA MRWorks (RIP) Snow Performance Giken KW Hotchkis SRP "Remember, when all else fails, don't forget to tongue punch the brown starfish"-dixon Dixon Cider's Roadster Build

05-26-2011, 06:53 AM	#9 (permalink)
Dzel A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: Midland, TX Posts: 3,884 Drives: 11 370Z PW M6 Rep Power: 23	I wouldn't even worry about a car until you start working. Concentrate on school and puttng your foot in the door with a company. I make good money but I made sure that all was taken care of for my family before I even thought about getting the Z __________________ 10secWS6 IF YOU CAN'T SWING IT THEN DON'T BRING IT! Check out Domestic Performance C.C.

01-12-2011, 02:04 PM	#4 (permalink)
cbaumy34 Base Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: lakevilla, IL Posts: 3 Drives: 99 buick parkave(lol Rep Power: 14	well i was hoping for a little warmer welcome here. I am researching for a future purchase here after school when the money is there. i am majoring in finance and minoring in insurance( possible double majoring). I really am not to worried about the job market in these categories but it is what it is. I simply asked pros and cons and for opinions. By the way what do you do for a living 22 years old and about 100k worth of cars and parts seems a little odd( just curious). The reason I sold the Srt4 was solely for financial security and the park avenue was a freebie. Anyways id like more opinions on the pros and cons and a little less on the money factor ill handle that by myself. thank you

01-13-2011, 10:18 AM	#6 (permalink)
cbaumy34 Base Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: lakevilla, IL Posts: 3 Drives: 99 buick parkave(lol Rep Power: 14	i really appreciate the insight and i knew you sold drugs lol , but yea if all works out with school and life after school those are the two iv narrowed it down too, but if a new car comes out that I like the list may change. I do plan on modding but nothing major until the warranty goes so exhaust, intake, rims, gauges a new interior( if the evo wins), and suspension, but in the end i would like to go big turbo. How do you like the awd compared to rwd?

05-26-2011, 06:03 AM	#8 (permalink)
Angel Banned Join Date: May 2011 Location: USA Posts: 40 Drives: Nissan Rep Power: 0	Hello everyone, My Name is Angel Smith this my first post in this forums..

07-23-2011, 10:25 AM	#10 (permalink)
jayl Track Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: md Posts: 813 Drives: 09 370z base MT Rep Power: 16	Spam!!! __________________ -Jay

08-05-2011, 03:58 AM	#12 (permalink)
please Base Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: FUZHOU Posts: 1 Drives: BLUE Rep Power: 14	someone own the 370Z ，i think if the owner can buy lamp bulb ，it is a good choice！

08-11-2011, 03:15 PM	#14 (permalink)
dannsalik Base Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Adams,New York,USA Age: 39 Posts: 2 Drives: 04 Nissan 350Z CS M6 Rep Power: 14	Hi, I'm Dann from New York, I'm Newbie here glad to join this forum community .. I hope for the good stay here ... Looking for your reviews .. Thanks in advance

11-10-2011, 12:42 AM	#15 (permalink)
chuckd05 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NY Posts: 2,391 Drives: No longer a Z Rep Power: 20	well you made him feel anything but warmandscsi... What you said to the OP is pretty rude, and your judging his whole life but a 4 sentence post while tooting your own horn... i know I'm late here... but this is the crap i see on the 350 site, not here... To the OP, if you want to mod to go fast straight evo x. if you want a nicer looking better drivers car get the Z... but I sold my Z and after thousands in mods I had wished I left it stock, and saved money... You can spend money to make it look nice but other than some HFC I don't think its worth modding the Z for the 40 whp you pick up for thousands... My new car that was factory turbo-ed for under 500 dollars i picked up 80 hp and tq in 30 minutes by simply installing a piggy back tune... the evo x is in that category of car that rewards you for mods rather generously... have you made any decision yet ? __________________ 09 370Z 6M PW - FBO Best 1/4 mile = 12.926 @ 109 SOLD -- 08 BMW 135i - FBO 12.1@120mph SOLD -- white 09 e92 335 Coupe Mtech - 11.9 @ 119 :-)