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I had remote installed today on a MT. The guy told me never to put it in gear when I turn the car off. I picked it up, stopped for gas, went to get in the car and I had my keys in my hand and must have activated the remote start. I had the emergency brake pulled. The car took off, dragging me with it. It went over 3 curbs, bushes and finally came to a stop. They never gave me an instruction manual........is this because they had to disconnect a safety feature on the car? I had it done at the dealer and it was part of a package deal they offered me. The car is messed up and I know it can be fixed. It's just that I know that it has been damaged. Can anyone tell me about these remote starters? I have never had one before. Should I contact an attorney? If they did disconnect a safety feature, no one told me about it. Please help.

Honestly, it's common sense. If the car is in gear and you start it... what happens next?

It's not their fault, they did tell you not to put it in gear from what you posted.

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Unfortunately it's a mistake on your part for leaving the car in gear and using the remote start (even if you did it on accident). The liability rests on you.

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:roflpuke2::roflpuke2::roflpuke2: are you KIDDING me? You had a remote starter and didnt realize you cant leave it in gear? hahahhahahahahahahaahahahaha Im sorry but this story is HILARIOUS.

But the emergency brake was on. Shouldn't it have popped the clutch? I'm just trying to figure it out. The clutch wasn't depressed so doesn't that mean something was disconnected? I'm just upset and have never, ever, had a remote start on any vehicle. I know it was my fault that I accidentally hit the remote but, they didn't tell me it could be fatal if I did.

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I didn't hit the remote on purpose. It isn't funny. Someone could have been killed. Again, why would the car move if the emergency brake was on?

No it wouldnt make a diff.

Not trying to be a **** but they did tell you DONT LEAVE IT IN GEAR. It happens and you happened to learn the hard way. Good thing nobody is hurt....but I couldnt help but laugh my bad.

Just cuz the emergency brake is on doesnt mean anything. All it really does is protect the car from rolling under its weight on a slope.

Sorry, about what happened, but you were given a Warning. If the Dealer had common sense they would have had you sign a waiver of liability? Normally this types of kits are exclusively installed on Auto's to prevent such a thing. Your lucky nobody was hurt or killed. :shakes head:

For a remote start to be installed on a manual the installer has to disengage the switch on the clutch that requires the clutch to be pressed to the floor in order to start the engine. That means when you're in gear, regardless of whether you have the emergency brake on or not, the car WILL lunge forwards if you start it.

If the engine was not fully warmed up and the ECU was still in cold start mode, that's going to increase the likelihood of the car actually taking off and driving somewhere since the ECU is going to hold a higher idle (1,000 to 1,500 rpm) which is enough to keep the car moving instead of stalling out.

Not a funny situation indeed. You're right that someone could have been hurt or killed, but the truth of the matter is you simply CAN'T leave a MT car in gear if it's equipped with remote start. I know it was a mistake, but it still boils down to user error.

When you get the car fixed have the remote start system uninstalled. It's not worth the trouble.

This! Besides the fact that someone could have been hurt someone I know has had their car burn down because of a remote starter! They suck!

Guess I am the dummy. I wasn't even 3 miles from the dealer. I must say.......noone ever showed me how to use it.......they just called me on the phone. I'm not trying to make excuses. I am used to putting the car in gear and pulling the emergency brake when I turn the car off. There won't be a next time. I will never take that remote key fob with me anywhere. Why didn't it pop the clutch? Uggghhhh, I don't know, I was in shock.

332 HP versus two little-bitty brake pads. Guess who wins everytime?

Damn, I didn't even think of that, but yeah, you're right, Steve. It does reinforce the possibility that this thread is a bunch of crap. I can't imagine any dealer doing that, what with the liability n all.

I totally understand being it's a new car....Plus I NEVER leave my car in neutral when its sitting. EVER. I am always paranoid of the fact it will roll bein the e-brake is weak.

Thank you for the info. I am having it removed. I would never want to have this happen again. I think that it is a safety issue even if it was my fault. I really do appreciate the feed back though.

only physical force will move the clutch pedal, the remote is not designed to do that

Was the car fully warmed up? If not, that's probably why it kept moving.

Usually the car would stall but if you have enough RPM when the ECU is in cold start mode it could take off like it did in your case.

For what it's worth, the dealership never should have agreed to install it on your car. Remote start is only safe on the automatics.

Trip, your bug avatar is giving me the willies. :eek:

The word "lawyer" popped up very early in this thread.

Now "I must say.......noone ever showed me how to use it.......they just called me on the phone."

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I HATE that fking thing! lmao

This thread is not a bunch of crap......believe me, it happened. I have the road burns to show for it. I had no idea that they had to disengage the clutch or I would NEVER had it installed. If I had known that it was such a hazard.......didn't do my homework on this.

I think the car was warmed up enough. I just stopped for gas. The dealer offered this to me in a package of other things, like lojack and all. I thought, wow, this would be great. they said it was new to do this to a MT.

the word "Lawyer" popped up because the car ran into a auto dealership across the road. They came running out to see what happened and told me it was not legal to do this and that a safety switch had been removed. I'm not here to argue, I will get the car fixed and learn from this. I posted this thread to get some help about it. I am not a mechanic and thought it was a safe option since the dealer offered it.

Was any damage done to the car?

Thanks Steve. I REALLY do appreciate all the help. I am new to this forum and thought I could get some help with what happened. It's embarrasing and I had no idea about the darn thing.

It's a like a golden rule not to install a remote starter on a MT. search YouTube and there are countless vids of what happened with you. The E-Brake is good for nothing IMO.

Anyways, chalk it up as a lesson learned. How bad is the damage btw? Driving over a curb makes me cringe... That can mess up suspension components.

No prob. We all have our "moments." Stick around and I'm sure you'll learn to like this place in all our glorious dysfunction. :tup:

Depends lol. One night in my Z....it was raining really hard and any Z owner knows its IMPOSSIBLE to see in that car when its dark and raining hard. I hook a corner too close and jumped a curb LOL. **** got like 2 feet of air :icon18:

Needless to say it was ok.

Also, the safety thing is that you have to press in the clutch to start the car but remote starters bypass that and that's why your car took off.

Yes, the entire underside is messed up. It tore off the cover plate messed up the bumper and a mud flap or whatever you all call them. I saw some metal that had been bent, I don't know what that goes to. I had the clear bra, or paint protection applied, that will have to be replaced too. I have not taken it to the dealer to have them put it on a lift to see what else is damaged. Ugghhh, I hate this. Look Guys, I am a woman. This is my dream car and I joined this forum to learn. I am so embarrased. As I said before, I didn't know they disengaged the clutch.

You're damn lucky man!!!

I know that now.

Nothing to be embarrassed about. If you're a manual driver unfamiliar with remote starting it happens. Best bet is to bring it back to the dealer and explain it to them if someone said that its not alright for them to install it in MT. It happens and it could have been much worse.
I know lol. It hurt like hell lol.

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And hopefully insurance will cover the damage.

Being a woman or a man is no excuse...lol... Mistakes happen and we learn from it. Just be happy no one got any major injuries. Repair the Z and enjoy it!

Thanks for being supportive. I'll keep you updated on what happens next and I am praying that the suspension isn't damaged.