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Originally Posted by Hootie But the emergency brake was on. Shouldn't it have popped the clutch? I'm just trying to figure it out. The clutch wasn't depressed so doesn't that

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Old 08-17-2010, 09:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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But the emergency brake was on. Shouldn't it have popped the clutch? I'm just trying to figure it out. The clutch wasn't depressed so doesn't that mean something was disconnected? I'm just upset and have never, ever, had a remote start on any vehicle. I know it was my fault that I accidentally hit the remote but, they didn't tell me it could be fatal if I did.
For a remote start to be installed on a manual the installer has to disengage the switch on the clutch that requires the clutch to be pressed to the floor in order to start the engine. That means when you're in gear, regardless of whether you have the emergency brake on or not, the car WILL lunge forwards if you start it.

If the engine was not fully warmed up and the ECU was still in cold start mode, that's going to increase the likelihood of the car actually taking off and driving somewhere since the ECU is going to hold a higher idle (1,000 to 1,500 rpm) which is enough to keep the car moving instead of stalling out.

Not a funny situation indeed. You're right that someone could have been hurt or killed, but the truth of the matter is you simply CAN'T leave a MT car in gear if it's equipped with remote start. I know it was a mistake, but it still boils down to user error.

When you get the car fixed have the remote start system uninstalled. It's not worth the trouble.
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Old 08-17-2010, 09:03 PM   #2 (permalink)
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When you get the car fixed have the remote start system uninstalled. It's not worth the trouble.
This! Besides the fact that someone could have been hurt someone I know has had their car burn down because of a remote starter! They suck!
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For a remote start to be installed on a manual the installer has to disengage the switch on the clutch that requires the clutch to be pressed to the floor in order to start the engine. That means when you're in gear, regardless of whether you have the emergency brake on or not, the car WILL lunge forwards if you start it.
Damn, I didn't even think of that, but yeah, you're right, Steve. It does reinforce the possibility that this thread is a bunch of crap. I can't imagine any dealer doing that, what with the liability n all.
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This thread is not a bunch of crap......believe me, it happened. I have the road burns to show for it. I had no idea that they had to disengage the clutch or I would NEVER had it installed. If I had known that it was such a hazard.......didn't do my homework on this.
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Thank you for the info. I am having it removed. I would never want to have this happen again. I think that it is a safety issue even if it was my fault. I really do appreciate the feed back though.
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Thank you for the info. I am having it removed. I would never want to have this happen again. I think that it is a safety issue even if it was my fault. I really do appreciate the feed back though.
For what it's worth, the dealership never should have agreed to install it on your car. Remote start is only safe on the automatics.
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For what it's worth, the dealership never should have agreed to install it on your car. Remote start is only safe on the automatics.
Thanks Steve. I REALLY do appreciate all the help. I am new to this forum and thought I could get some help with what happened. It's embarrasing and I had no idea about the darn thing.
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Thanks Steve. I REALLY do appreciate all the help. I am new to this forum and thought I could get some help with what happened. It's embarrasing and I had no idea about the darn thing.
No prob. We all have our "moments." Stick around and I'm sure you'll learn to like this place in all our glorious dysfunction.
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