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nr7 06-17-2021 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by MZ DAIZY (Post 3999126)
You’re going to lose your mind when your “reliable Japanese sports car” gets the dreaded steering wheel lock.

Look it up. You’re welcome. :tup:

I figured you wouldn't. So predictable.

I am already aware of that issue, but nice try.

I don't own a “reliable Japanese sports car.” I'd need to buy a different brand of vehicle for that.


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nr7 06-17-2021 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ZontheRocks (Post 3999059)
Sorry about the frustration with the car.

Thanks.

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Originally Posted by ZontheRocks (Post 3999059)
My father picked up a used Mini Cooper last year and it wasn't until after the automatic transmission took a nosedive did he look online and see that this could be a potential issue and he should have stayed away from that year. Some DIY transmission replacement and its been traded in for his first truck - 2021 Tacoma.

There is only so much one can do. Looking at consumer reports, carfax, get vehicle inspected etc... No one is going to wait 6 months while you research every aspect of their car for sale.

I had been reading this forum when I started to consider purchasing this vehicle, but it's often hard to tell if a problem is affecting everyone or perhaps just a very vocal few.

Nonetheless, the info the previous owner gave me about replacing the clutch led me to think that the previous owner had perhaps dealt with the slave issue when he replaced the clutch.

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Originally Posted by ZontheRocks (Post 3999059)
When they are working properly (I know, not what you want to hear), the Z can be a fun sports car.

Yes, they are a super fun car to drive. For me there was very little learning curve with this car. The steering is fantastic, she goes exactly where you point her. She corners like it's on rails, the power curve is very smooth and linear from 3k revs on up and she'll pull from as low as 1500 revs if you ask her to. The brakes are awesome as well.

She gallops between 20 and 120 mph like a track star and I have had some glorious top down driving on 5 star twisty roadways between San Diego and here. Just Sunday, going up the Ocoee and down through the N. GA mountains was like a top down "Sound of Music" fairy tale dream filled with sport bikes and race cars. LOL


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nr7 06-18-2021 12:02 AM

Thanks to all that have provided advice and suggestions.

Double thanks to all that chose to exercise sympathy and understanding during my bitch fest.

Sorry to start my forum tenure with such a rant. I had just went from a nice little top down drive through the sights of Savannah to needing to use my toe to tug up my pedal, to having a mechanic fiddle about resulting in informing me that now she wouldn't move an inch and that they did not have time to work on her. To having a dealer say that they refuse to work on (or sell) 370z's to being informed that I needed to purchase thousands in parts and nearly as much in labor, but those parts were currently unavailable, even if I could find someone to install them. To paying $20 for a cab ride back to my room that was less than a mile away after waiting over an hour.

I walked across the street in the 97 degree humidity, bought a couple of whiskey pints, went back to my room, made a big cocktail, then checked my email only to find my the370z.com forum approval, so I logged on and started typing.

It was an exercise in catharsis really, and in the end, I felt better after doing so, even though I made the good members of this forum absorb the brunt of it.

Nonetheless, I have started a different thread to ask questions about my current mechanical issues and would appreciate any advise that may be proffered.

http://www.the370z.com/engine-drivet...ml#post3999209

Again, thanks to all that bore with my rant and offered sympathy and/or advice.


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THE BULL 06-18-2021 10:44 AM

As surprising as it sounds, that is all that it takes to overheat the oil, even great oil would have you around the same temperatures. This is a manufacturer defect but one that with the proper research can be mended. You'll notice the difference right away with that cooler.

If you want to prepare for the gallery gasket, install an oil pressure gauge. You can have it visible or hidden. At that mileage it shouldn't need constant attention and if a worry ever rises you can compare your pressure numbers to the ones here which are pretty constant.

FYI I saw the repair order of a 2018 that had a full top replacement under warranty. $19,000 for a brand new "Nissan" top.

Safe to assume that a convertible top tech will have business for centuries
There is a guy in the G37 forums called Guy Menard that makes billet gears for the G37 top. Unsure if the Z has gears like the G but if they do then these gears are PLASTIC.

Start putting somethings on paper to set aside a budget for the car to take care of these pesky issues and it will last you a lifetime. No kidding.

danegrey 06-18-2021 07:56 PM

sorry to hear about your problems and glad things are working out for you. If you are that close to the North GA mountains, did you happen to take the Z on the tail of the dragon....

:tiphat: to you..

nr7 06-19-2021 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by danegrey (Post 3999306)
sorry to hear about your problems and glad things are working out for you. If you are that close to the North GA mountains, did you happen to take the Z on the tail of the dragon....

:tiphat: to you..

So far, I went up the Ocoee and down through the N GA Mnts. Went through some area that was super popular with the sports car and sport bike crowd in Chattahoochee NF. After my Savannah fiasco I advance to Charelston up the coast via Hilton Head, where I was thwarted by toll gates erected by rich people (a shame to see our coastline privatized), and the lovely Hunter Island. I have now advanced to Greenville and intend to work my way towards the Dragon, the Natahala and the Blue Ridge. Brilliant "top-down twisties" have been traversed had in every state except UT and NV (I shot from SLC to San Diego on the i15 in a day).

I am not sure how well things are going to work out as far as my car troubles, but at least she's moving again.

danegrey 06-19-2021 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by nr7 (Post 3999363)
I am not sure how well things are going to work out as far as my car troubles, but at least she's moving again.

Glad to hear you are moving ... :driving:

nr7 06-19-2021 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by THE BULL (Post 3999250)
As surprising as it sounds, that is all that it takes to overheat the oil, even great oil would have you around the same temperatures. This is a manufacturer defect but one that with the proper research can be mended. You'll notice the difference right away with that cooler.

The Fast Intentions cooler kit is a nice setup. Concern about oil temps have been eliminated for me.

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Originally Posted by THE BULL (Post 3999250)
If you want to prepare for the gallery gasket, install an oil pressure gauge. You can have it visible or hidden. At that mileage it shouldn't need constant attention and if a worry ever rises you can compare your pressure numbers to the ones here which are pretty constant.

Can you summarize the gallery gasket thing?

I take it the gallery gasket is a point of common failure that cause loss of oil pressure and perhaps engine failure and one must pull the entire motor to replace it? Does it fail w/o warning? Are you advising I get and oil pressure gauge engage before I proceed further? Or only if I am keeping the car long term?

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Originally Posted by THE BULL (Post 3999250)
FYI I saw the repair order of a 2018 that had a full top replacement under warranty. $19,000 for a brand new "Nissan" top.

$13,000 for the parts and $6000 for installation for another top that will most like fail in very short order.
If corporations actually had consciences, Nissan should be ashamed.

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Originally Posted by THE BULL (Post 3999250)
Start putting somethings on paper to set aside a budget for the car to take care of these pesky issues and it will last you a lifetime. No kidding.

Thanks. I have plenty saved to handle this, and future problems (in fact I could, and in hind sight probably should, have spent a fair bit more for a vehicle for this trip) with the car, but the plan, as it always has been, is to sell the car after the trip. I love having a roadster, but don't have the space to garage it and it's just not practical for me as a daily driver.

That said, it is not my intention to knowingly ignore any maintenance issues in hopes of perfidiously passing them on to some future unsuspecting buyer. The car is now in significantly better shape than when I purchased it and, except for the added miles, I'd like to keep it in excellent condition.

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Ghostvette 06-22-2021 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by nr7 (Post 3999366)
The Fast Intentions cooler kit is a nice setup. Concern about oil temps have been eliminated for me.


Can you summarize the gallery gasket thing?

I take it the gallery gasket is a point of common failure that cause loss of oil pressure and perhaps engine failure and one must pull the entire motor to replace it? Does it fail w/o warning? Are you advising I get and oil pressure gauge engage before I proceed further? Or only if I am keeping the car long term?


$13,000 for the parts and $6000 for installation for another top that will most like fail in very short order.
If corporations actually had consciences, Nissan should be ashamed.


Thanks. I have plenty saved to handle this, and future problems (in fact I could, and in hind sight probably should, have spent a fair bit more for a vehicle for this trip) with the car, but the plan, as it always has been, is to sell the car after the trip. I love having a roadster, but don't have the space to garage it and it's just not practical for me as a daily driver.

That said, it is not my intention to knowingly ignore any maintenance issues in hopes of perfidiously passing them on to some future unsuspecting buyer. The car is now in significantly better shape than when I purchased it and, except for the added miles, I'd like to keep it in excellent condition.

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The gallery gasket doesn't require engine removal, just almost everything on the front of the engine to get to them. There is a kit that has all the replacement gaskets and fasteners. You'll want to use loc-tite and a punch to stake the fasteners in place to keep them from rotating out. Sorry to hear you had such a piss-poor introduction to the car.

BettyZ 06-22-2021 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by nr7 (Post 3999213)
Thanks to all that have provided advice and suggestions.

Double thanks to all that chose to exercise sympathy and understanding during my bitch fest.

Sorry to start my forum tenure with such a rant. I had just went from a nice little top down drive through the sights of Savannah to needing to use my toe to tug up my pedal, to having a mechanic fiddle about resulting in informing me that now she wouldn't move an inch and that they did not have time to work on her. To having a dealer say that they refuse to work on (or sell) 370z's to being informed that I needed to purchase thousands in parts and nearly as much in labor, but those parts were currently unavailable, even if I could find someone to install them. To paying $20 for a cab ride back to my room that was less than a mile away after waiting over an hour.

I walked across the street in the 97 degree humidity, bought a couple of whiskey pints, went back to my room, made a big cocktail, then checked my email only to find my the370z.com forum approval, so I logged on and started typing.

It was an exercise in catharsis really, and in the end, I felt better after doing so, even though I made the good members of this forum absorb the brunt of it.

Nonetheless, I have started a different thread to ask questions about my current mechanical issues and would appreciate any advise that may be proffered.

http://www.the370z.com/engine-drivet...ml#post3999209

Again, thanks to all that bore with my rant and offered sympathy and/or advice.


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Holy shiite! A new forum member that knows how to apologize and ask for advice!? :ban:

BettyZ 06-22-2021 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nr7 (Post 3999366)
The Fast Intentions cooler kit is a nice setup. Concern about oil temps have been eliminated for me.


Can you summarize the gallery gasket thing?

I take it the gallery gasket is a point of common failure that cause loss of oil pressure and perhaps engine failure and one must pull the entire motor to replace it? Does it fail w/o warning? Are you advising I get and oil pressure gauge engage before I proceed further? Or only if I am keeping the car long term?


$13,000 for the parts and $6000 for installation for another top that will most like fail in very short order.
If corporations actually had consciences, Nissan should be ashamed.


Thanks. I have plenty saved to handle this, and future problems (in fact I could, and in hind sight probably should, have spent a fair bit more for a vehicle for this trip) with the car, but the plan, as it always has been, is to sell the car after the trip. I love having a roadster, but don't have the space to garage it and it's just not practical for me as a daily driver.

That said, it is not my intention to knowingly ignore any maintenance issues in hopes of perfidiously passing them on to some future unsuspecting buyer. The car is now in significantly better shape than when I purchased it and, except for the added miles, I'd like to keep it in excellent condition.

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Galley gaskets are inside the timing cover. Your year has chitty paper gaskets that are guaranteed to fail eventually. When that happens your oil pools in the timing cover and your pressure drops. By the time the OEM oil pressure warning light goes on, the motor is already toast.

Replacing it depends on your skill level / tool quantity. When I did it, I had very little of either and it took me a month of after-work nights and weekends. Nowadays it would probably take me 10-16 hours, alone.

Pajama 06-29-2021 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by nr7 (Post 3998772)
I wish I could say I am a new owner, but I bought a 2010 Sport Touring Roadster 6sp back in February and have been waiting 4 and a half months to get approved to post on the forums.

I could have certainly used some advice from the knowledgeable folks on this forum, while getting the vehicle ready to travel. The best of which would have been not to buy such a flawed, unreliable, poorly designed POS car for such a trip.

$15k for a 2010 Sport/Touring Roadster with 28k miles in excellent condition seemed like such a great deal at the time What a seemingly great car with great performance and Japanese reliability to take on a 4 month post-Covid trip around the perimeter of the US? But little did I know, I would have been better off looking at Yugos. Thousands in upgrades and repairs is hopes of making it into decently reliable transport leaves me stuck and broke down in a hot, expensive, sweat trap where no one is willing to work on the car. Even the dealer here refuses to work on this POS.

Sorry for the down trodden tone, maybe after another few thousand dollars I'll be able to come up with something nice to say.

I hope your car gets you through the day w/o a $1000 repair bill.

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That really sucks, I waited for a very long time to get approved also. Like a month or something. I think I have a CV/Axle issue going on 40k miles on it 2009. Maybe its people beating on cars at first and trading out.

Ghostvette 06-29-2021 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Pajama (Post 4000479)
That really sucks, I waited for a very long time to get approved also. Like a month or something. I think I have a CV/Axle issue going on 40k miles on it 2009. Maybe its people beating on cars at first and trading out.

A clicking noise? Normal with this car. There's a fix in the DIY section. :tiphat:

Quicksilvers 09-17-2021 02:49 AM

Welcome to the 370Z forums. Check out the DIY section of the forum for the fix.


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