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ivan_star 12-21-2014 03:24 PM

K&N 69-7078TS Intake or Stillen 370z Generation 3 Ultra Long Tube Dual Intake
 
I would like to know what is the difference between these 2 Intakes, K&N 69-7078TS Intake and Stillen 370z Generation 3 Ultra Long Tube Dual Intake. I personally like the K&N intake more but if there is a big difference between the long intake and the short intake, I would reconcider and probably get the long intake if its worth it. Help! Please and Thank You!

P.S. I have a 2013 Z.

Zoren 370 12-21-2014 03:36 PM

The K&N intake is a short ram intake which the filter is inside the engine bay which is susceptible for heat soak when running at low speed which in turn suck in warm air than cold air, which makes it less efficient in fuel and performance.

The long tube is located outside the engine bay which prevents heat soaking for happening. That is why the stillen performs better than short rams.

12155ny 12-21-2014 04:40 PM

I have the Stillen Gen 3 on my 2013 and I love it. If you got the $$ to spend and the time to install it, Stillen is the way to go. The install isn't too bad. Probably takes a few hours to install and will take a little time to clean it eventually since you have to pull the front bumper completely off. If that's not a worry for you...then get the Stillen.

ivan_star 12-22-2014 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Zoren 370 (Post 3062072)
The K&N intake is a short ram intake which the filter is inside the engine bay which is susceptible for heat soak when running at low speed which in turn suck in warm air than cold air, which makes it less efficient in fuel and performance.

The long tube is located outside the engine bay which prevents heat soaking for happening. That is why the stillen performs better than short rams.

thanks for the info!

ivan_star 12-22-2014 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 12155ny (Post 3062086)
I have the Stillen Gen 3 on my 2013 and I love it. If you got the $$ to spend and the time to install it, Stillen is the way to go. The install isn't too bad. Probably takes a few hours to install and will take a little time to clean it eventually since you have to pull the front bumper completely off. If that's not a worry for you...then get the Stillen.

I think I'm gonna go with the K&N. It's cheaper and less work to install. Money is and is not an issue. It is because it is pretty pricey and it's not because I am really good at saving money to buy stuff.

ANMVQ 12-22-2014 01:10 PM

Don't over look Takeda's same power and 100$ less :)

Chuck33079 12-22-2014 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ivan_star (Post 3062796)
I think I'm gonna go with the K&N. It's cheaper and less work to install. Money is and is not an issue. It is because it is pretty pricey and it's not because I am really good at saving money to buy stuff.

If you aren't buying the Stillen, buy K&N drop-ins and silicone MAF tubes. Do not buy a short ram intake unless you want to lose power in the real world. You may show some gains with the hood up and a huge fan blowing on it on the dyno but you'll give it all back and then some with the hood closed. Hot air=bad.

ANMVQ 12-22-2014 01:51 PM

If you go silicone MAF tubes I have a set NEW and drop ins $110 Shipped

Zoren 370 12-22-2014 04:10 PM

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Well OP just to let you know I do have the k&N got it because it look nice inside the engine bay. So far my car runs very fast I really dont feell i lost any power but I do have other bolt ons such as full exhaust.

It depends what is your intensions with your mods. I like to see the filters that is why I bought the K&N.

But what other members have said are right. But you have the right to choose whats best for you. We only provide options.

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Mine is wrapped with thermal shields.

ivan_star 12-22-2014 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Zoren 370 (Post 3063046)
Well OP just to let you know I do have the k&N got it because it look nice inside the engine bay. So far my car runs very fast I really dont feell i lost any power but I do have other bolt ons such as full exhaust.

It depends what is your intensions with your mods. I like to see the filters that is why I bought the K&N.

But what other members have said are right. But you have the right to choose whats best for you. We only provide options.

Attachment 98340

Mine is wrapped with thermal shields.

well not much really. I just wanna make it look nice and a little bit of engine mods. Maybe in the far future I will consider racing it, track tho not drag or drift but that's a strong maybe.

BildoDabbins 01-21-2020 01:48 AM

Well I'm confused I would talk so much crap about short Rams but if they have a heat shield around them then are they still able to get heat soak from the engine?

I thought the shorter tubes would make the air have to travel through less tubing which I thought was a better thing.

On another note the heat shield is plastic isn't it? So how much of a barrier to heat is it really?

I have to many questions myself. I might just get the stillen so I won't have to know if I'm harming my performance or not.

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tonythetiger 01-21-2020 08:31 AM

short ram is useless, not sure why they make them. i think any long tube intakes does a good job of making small power, stillen might be the best option out there.

johnnydrama 01-21-2020 10:15 AM

Long tubes are more expensive but have proven to make more power. Z1 makes a great long tube setup with color/options. Also is cheaper ($500) and easier to install than the Stillen G3s.

https://www.z1motorsports.com/air-in...it-p-8892.html


If you are set on short tubes, I would consider the AEM setup for $380. Aesthetically it looks great and comes with heat shields to make heat soak(power loss) less of an issue.

https://www.z1motorsports.com/air-in...t-p-11697.html

Zezus 01-23-2020 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BildoDabbins (Post 3902233)
Well I'm confused I would talk so much crap about short Rams but if they have a heat shield around them then are they still able to get heat soak from the engine?

I thought the shorter tubes would make the air have to travel through less tubing which I thought was a better thing.

On another note the heat shield is plastic isn't it? So how much of a barrier to heat is it really?

I have to many questions myself. I might just get the stillen so I won't have to know if I'm harming my performance or not.

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I have the K&N blackhawk or black series or something to that effect. The heat shields are aluminum.
I bought it for 3 reasons: It only cost me 240 bucks, i wanted louder intake noises, and i didn't want to pull the bumper off of my new car to install intakes.
With the heat shields i cant fathom it hurts performance over stock, especially
with getting rid of the trojan ultra ribbed hoses.

*EDIT: Learning to spell

-ZS-Carpenter 01-23-2020 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BildoDabbins (Post 3902233)
Well I'm confused I would talk so much crap about short Rams but if they have a heat shield around them then are they still able to get heat soak from the engine?

I thought the shorter tubes would make the air have to travel through less tubing which I thought was a better thing.

On another note the heat shield is plastic isn't it? So how much of a barrier to heat is it really?

I have to many questions myself. I might just get the stillen so I won't have to know if I'm harming my performance or not.

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Since you are in commiefrnia Stillen gen 3 are the only ones that have a CARB cert so the only option for long tubes.

If you're not going long tube just get high flow drop in filters and some post maf tubes. It's better than any short ram set up.


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