Berks HFC with nismo- rasp/rattle extremely loud -

nvdave04 · 11-03-2014, 09:51 PM

So I had a custom 2.5 non resonated mandrel bent xpipe/mid pipe installed to my nismo muffler*which I got locally for super cheap** to which I thought it would help Eliminate the rasp/rattle coming from the HFC.. But of course it actually got worse!!! I was told that the rasp/rattle noise is due to the HFC is just to much for the nismo muffler. He swears he checked all seals and bolts and all were okay..

My question is the berks HFC causing the Honda civic / tin can sound or is the nismo muffler just sucks ***? I really do like the deep sound but the rasp/rattle is so loud and embarrassing!!

If it's the nismo muffler does anyone have a suggestion to which axle back paired with berks HFC that will sound good and not like a honda/tin can ?

I'm really really frustrated and lesson learned you pay for what you get but now I don't know what to do bc I already have the 2.5 xpipe/mid pipe so I don't need a full CBE.. Any advice would help thanks to everyone for helping me sleep at night ! I'm having nightmares about waking up and seeing a honda civic in my driveway!!

Video of start up - is this a rattle or rasp ?
http://youtu.be/HA-rfh90NVQ

Warm start - with revs
http://youtu.be/8Byx2KZbSJw

Vrg37s · 11-03-2014, 11:58 PM

Well u made the problem worse by removing the resonators in the mid pipe. The HFCS do add some hiss but nothing major IMO. U should add resonators to the mid pipe and this will help out a lot.

nvdave04 · 11-04-2014, 01:37 AM

Do you think if I removed ten nismo and went with the top speed axle back it would improve ?

DavidZ370 · 11-04-2014, 01:42 AM

Honestly if its ridiculous rasp he didn't align correctly and or use proper gaskets, as mentioned above the resonators help with the rasp, double check on the bolts and gaskets. I redid all the bolts on my Z this weekend and all of the rasp I had previously went away with proper gaskets installed
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Jordo! · 11-04-2014, 05:16 AM

Changing the diameter on the Y pipe -- and it seems the H pipe too -- tends to result in a "whooshing" noise.

Resonated TP's should help mitigate any rattle/rasp, but the whooshing will probably still be there on decel unless you go back to OEM diameter.

NewtoZ's5 · 11-04-2014, 08:00 AM

The problem lies in the non-resonated x/mid-pipe. Either find you a Nismo mid-section or get you a new cat-back exhaust. Getting a new axle back muffler section will not change anything other than possibly making it louder and even more annoying.

nvdave04 · 11-04-2014, 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewtoZ's5

The problem lies in the non-resonated x/mid-pipe. Either find you a Nismo mid-section or get you a new cat-back exhaust. Getting a new axle back muffler section will not change anything other than possibly making it louder and even more annoying.

I was having the rattling/raspy noise to when I had the factory non nismo midpipe but not as loud.. I thought the new larger 2.5 inch xpipe would help give it more flow to help reduce it.. Just pissed paid $350 for this xpipe and it sucks lol FML I guess I will try to add resonators today to see if it helps..

nvdave04 · 11-04-2014, 11:13 AM

Added video of start up is it a rattle or is that rasp ?

DavidZ370 · 11-04-2014, 12:38 PM

Sounds like rasp when you first start it up.

nvdave04 · 11-04-2014, 01:28 PM

Added another video of warm start with some revs.. To me it sounds like something is rattling like something is lose inside of the nismo muffler? Or that might be rasp I dunno ?

370z nismo HFC rattle or rasp - YouTube

FPenvy · 11-04-2014, 01:45 PM

seems like the lack of resonators would be the culprit but after watching that last video i feel something is put together incorrectly. i see that you had the mid sections custom made? that may be your failure point.

i have full straight pipes and mine dont have that pingy/rattle sound.

i could post videos if you'd like for reference.

nvdave04 · 11-04-2014, 01:54 PM

I had the same type of rasp with the factory midpipe berks HFC and nismo muffler.. I thought going to 2.5 inch xpipe would give it more flow and help.. But just Made it worse of course.. I'm going to add resonators today to see if it helps.

FPenvy · 11-04-2014, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nvdave04

I had the same type of rasp with the factory midpipe berks HFC and nismo muffler.. I thought going to 2.5 inch xpipe would give it more flow and help.. But just Made it worse of course.. I'm going to add resonators today to see if it helps.

mine is 2.5" the whole way except my tips are 4.5" but that doesnt really matter.

i've never ran HFCs so that may be your issuse as well but i know some friends who run them and havent heard anything that raspy so far. may be poor fitment or just the berk HFC. most peoples ive heard are FI HFC.

nvdave04 · 11-04-2014, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FPenvy

seems like the lack of resonators would be the culprit but after watching that last video i feel something is put together incorrectly. i see that you had the mid sections custom made? that may be your failure point.

i have full straight pipes and mine dont have that pingy/rattle sound.

i could post videos if you'd like for reference.

Yea please post some videos and what muffler do you have and do you have HFC and no resonators ?

FPenvy · 11-04-2014, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nvdave04

Yea please post some videos and what muffler do you have and do you have HFC and no resonators ?

i have nothing lol

i'm running pure 100% straight pipes. no resonators, no cats, no mufflers.

11-03-2014, 09:51 PM	#1 (permalink)
nvdave04 Base Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Covington LA- NOLA Posts: 108 Drives: 2013 370z base Rep Power: 12	Berks HFC with nismo- rasp/rattle extremely loud - So I had a custom 2.5 non resonated mandrel bent xpipe/mid pipe installed to my nismo mufflerwhich I got locally for super cheap* to which I thought it would help Eliminate the rasp/rattle coming from the HFC.. But of course it actually got worse!!! I was told that the rasp/rattle noise is due to the HFC is just to much for the nismo muffler. He swears he checked all seals and bolts and all were okay.. My question is the berks HFC causing the Honda civic / tin can sound or is the nismo muffler just sucks **? I really do like the deep sound but the rasp/rattle is so loud and embarrassing!! If it's the nismo muffler does anyone have a suggestion to which axle back paired with berks HFC that will sound good and not like a honda/tin can ? I'm really really frustrated and lesson learned you pay for what you get but now I don't know what to do bc I already have the 2.5 xpipe/mid pipe so I don't need a full CBE.. Any advice would help thanks to everyone for helping me sleep at night ! I'm having nightmares about waking up and seeing a honda civic in my driveway!! Video of start up - is this a rattle or rasp ? http://youtu.be/HA-rfh90NVQ Warm start - with revs http://youtu.be/8Byx2KZbSJw Last edited by nvdave04; 11-04-2014 at 01:29 PM. Reason: Added video*

11-03-2014, 11:58 PM	#2 (permalink)
Vrg37s Base Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: CA Posts: 235 Drives: 08 G37 Rep Power: 12	Well u made the problem worse by removing the resonators in the mid pipe. The HFCS do add some hiss but nothing major IMO. U should add resonators to the mid pipe and this will help out a lot. FPenvy and nvdave04 like this.

11-04-2014, 01:42 AM	#4 (permalink)
DavidZ370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: [= Posts: 1,065 Drives: 17' CWP STI Rep Power: 23	Honestly if its ridiculous rasp he didn't align correctly and or use proper gaskets, as mentioned above the resonators help with the rasp, double check on the bolts and gaskets. I redid all the bolts on my Z this weekend and all of the rasp I had previously went away with proper gaskets installed . nvdave04 likes this.

11-04-2014, 05:16 AM	#5 (permalink)
Jordo! A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: nirvana Posts: 6,394 Drives: 2023 NATM Rep Power: 418	Changing the diameter on the Y pipe -- and it seems the H pipe too -- tends to result in a "whooshing" noise. Resonated TP's should help mitigate any rattle/rasp, but the whooshing will probably still be there on decel unless you go back to OEM diameter. 7speed and nvdave04 like this. __________________ Enjoy it. Destroy it.

11-04-2014, 08:00 AM	#6 (permalink)
NewtoZ's5 Base Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Sachse, Texas Age: 50 Posts: 128 Drives: 12 GM T/S/Navi Rep Power: 13	The problem lies in the non-resonated x/mid-pipe. Either find you a Nismo mid-section or get you a new cat-back exhaust. Getting a new axle back muffler section will not change anything other than possibly making it louder and even more annoying. nvdave04 likes this. __________________ 2012 GM 370Z Touring/Sport- Swift Spec-R, 20mm spacers, K&N Typoons, Z1 HFC's, Invidia Gemini, Kinetix camber, SPC toe, UpRev 310WHP/256TQ 2004 RYP S2000- Enkei RPF1's(blK)w/Dunlop Star Specs, Swift Spec-R, I/H/HFC

11-04-2014, 01:37 AM	#3 (permalink)
nvdave04 Base Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Covington LA- NOLA Posts: 108 Drives: 2013 370z base Rep Power: 12	Do you think if I removed ten nismo and went with the top speed axle back it would improve ?

11-04-2014, 11:13 AM	#8 (permalink)
nvdave04 Base Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Covington LA- NOLA Posts: 108 Drives: 2013 370z base Rep Power: 12	Added video of start up is it a rattle or is that rasp ?

11-04-2014, 12:38 PM	#9 (permalink)
DavidZ370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: [= Posts: 1,065 Drives: 17' CWP STI Rep Power: 23	Sounds like rasp when you first start it up.

11-04-2014, 01:28 PM	#10 (permalink)
nvdave04 Base Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Covington LA- NOLA Posts: 108 Drives: 2013 370z base Rep Power: 12	Added another video of warm start with some revs.. To me it sounds like something is rattling like something is lose inside of the nismo muffler? Or that might be rasp I dunno ? 370z nismo HFC rattle or rasp - YouTube

11-04-2014, 01:54 PM	#12 (permalink)
nvdave04 Base Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Covington LA- NOLA Posts: 108 Drives: 2013 370z base Rep Power: 12	I had the same type of rasp with the factory midpipe berks HFC and nismo muffler.. I thought going to 2.5 inch xpipe would give it more flow and help.. But just Made it worse of course.. I'm going to add resonators today to see if it helps.

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