Meisterschaft / ArmyTrix

FPenvy · 08-06-2014, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperDave

1. I wasn't recording, I was driving, not my potato.
2. I have installed the FI exhaust system on another member's Z, and driven several other Z's with it, I stand by my original statement.
3. FI fanboys are pretty much equivalent to apple fanboys, yea you can still get to the same porn sites I can, but you paid a **** ton more to do it with a cool logo and a frappe latte.

It's cat-back piping and a pair of cans and tips, not neurosurgery, don't know who in their right mind would pay so much for it.

you sound like a moron.

you're saying FI is expensive but your nazi exhaust cost's double.....doesnt make power, doesnt sound as good, and looks ok.

i'm confused are you stupid, simple, or slow? maybe a combo?

sodenot meisterschaft sounds super gay. getting mister shafted sounds better

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Originally Posted by vividracing

I agree that you get what you pay for in most cases. The full FI system is like what? $1200? Meisterschaft is $2500.. But visually, if you look at both of them next to each other, you can see why one is twice as much.

Any exhaust company that's also gonna make a systems for Lamborghini or Ferrari, is probably gonna be really high quality. Just sayin

soooo better sound, performance, and quality for 1/2 the price. hmmm and the FI guys are the dumb ones....ok buddy.

you just keep making people overpay for parts. enjoy.

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Originally Posted by Tempestz

Oh and yours sounds like a bunch of frat boys that have had each others a**es blown out by each others "daddys." .... no restrrictions!!

so much fail. you had all that time while i was in a meeting and this is what you came up with.

please take another hour and try again. first attempt was pathetic. sorta like your little "exhaust whore" tag. just awful.

JARblue · 08-06-2014, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by vividracing

the REALLY high end exhaust manufacturers (... akrapovic ...) and none of them make anything for the 370Z.

I'm pretty sure they do. Or at least did. FireDan50 had one.

diego@vossen · 08-06-2014, 03:12 PM

Not a Z but here is my G37 with stock cats and full GTHAUS

http://youtu.be/zPrWmmFng1g

diego@vossen · 08-06-2014, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperDave

FI = shlt.

My Meisterschaft Exhaust...

Sounds incredible!

vividracing · 08-06-2014, 03:25 PM

[QUOTE=soooo better sound, performance, and quality for 1/2 the price. hmmm and the FI guys are the dumb ones....ok buddy.

you just keep making people overpay for parts. enjoy.[/QUOTE]

1. Better sound is a matter of opinion
2. Performance really hasn't been proven (im in the process of getting dyno results right now)
3. Quality? I hope you arent trying to say that the FI is better quality, cause one look at both of them side by side, and that myth is busted.
4. I dont make anyone overpay for anything.. Not like i make the pricing. If anything, If one of my forum customer wants a very good exhaust and wants to spend the money on a Meisterschaft system, they get a nice discount.

So, just to recap... Nothing you said really holds any water. I dont see why you're so hell bent against Meisterschaft either?

vividracing · 08-06-2014, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

I'm pretty sure they do. Or at least did. FireDan50 had one.

You're right.. they do make one, my mistake. I was just in the moment lol

Haboob · 08-06-2014, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by vividracing

Now, i am a little biased when it comes to the Meisterschaft because i absolutely love the sound, and the guys at GThaus are great, but i have to disagree with you on this. Meisterschaft is not similar to a $1200 system, and they are not getting you to pay the high price just because they also make systems for high end cars. The 370z exhaust is made in the same place, with the same quality and craftsmanship as the exhaust thats going on the Bentley that they made right before it. Do you think that someone with a $400,000 car is going to put anything thats not top quality on their vehicle? Dont think so. I deal with just about all the REALLY high end exhaust manufacturers (supersprint, capristo, akrapovic, novitec, fabspeed..to name a few) and none of them make anything for the 370Z. My point is, that i'm happy that there is a exhaust manufacturer thats considered "high end" that takes the time to even develop a system for the Nissan. And i would be willing to bet that everyone on here that owes their exhaust would agree.

If I had a $400,000 car, sure, but I have a cheap $38,000 Z. To me it's not worth it to spend that much on an exhaust for this car. It's not really anything special (don't get me wrong, I love the car to death).

FPenvy · 08-06-2014, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vividracing

1. Better sound is a matter of opinion
2. Performance really hasn't been proven (im in the process of getting dyno results right now)
3. Quality? I hope you arent trying to say that the FI is better quality, cause one look at both of them side by side, and that myth is busted.
4. I dont make anyone overpay for anything.. Not like i make the pricing. If anything, If one of my forum customer wants a very good exhaust and wants to spend the money on a Meisterschaft system, they get a nice discount.

So, just to recap... Nothing you said really holds any water. I dont see why you're so hell bent against Meisterschaft either?

have you ever seen a FI exhaust to say the quality is inferior to gthaus? i mean yea the meistershaft has a million welds they make look good but there's about a million people who can make a weld look pretty. hell i havent welded since HS and i'm sure i can make a pretty weld.

i'm pretty sure there's a reason there is an est. 12 week wait for a FI exhaust and it's not because they are understaffed. its popular for the quality, performance, price, and spectaular customer service.

plus true duals and straighter piping path will most likely put down more power than an exhaust that crosses over itself, has multiple bends, and collides the exhaust gasses multiple times. just a little technical info a site sponsor probably should know.

diego@vossen · 08-06-2014, 03:38 PM

I have ran both FI and GTHAUS.

1. Fast Intentions - Magnaflow Mid-Pipe with SS Mufflers (Old Style)
2. Fast Intentions - 18" Resonated X-Pipe with CF MUfflers
3. Fast Intentions - 12" Resonated X-Pipe with SS MUfflers
4. Fast Intentions - 12" Resonated X-Pipe with SS Mufflers and Resonated HFC's

5. GTHAUS Full Catback with stock cats and with RHFC's

Sound with stock cats alone and GTHAUS is phenomenal even compared to any previous setup IMHO.

I agree with Vivid Racing, side by side there is no comparison, sound was a huge difference between Meisterschaft and any of my previous FI setups although a non resonated FI setup with RHFC's sounds very good too.

Will one exhaust make more power than the other? Yeah probably but that was not my goal here.

My car has always been daily driven very low (Slammed) so another reason why I got away from FI was because I destroyed 2 sets of mufflers.

Quality is all there and worth every penny you get with GTHAUS. Lowered car friendly was also a huge plus even though I love the angled mufflers from FI I prefer the way GTHAUS stacked there system so the clearance is great even when I air down

Haboob · 08-06-2014, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diego@vossen

I have ran both FI and GTHAUS.

1. Fast Intentions - Magnaflow Mid-Pipe with SS Mufflers
2. Fast Intentions - 18" Resonated X-Pipe with CF MUfflers
3. Fast Intentions - 12" Resonated X-Pipe with SS MUfflers
4. Fast Intentions - 12" Resonated X-Pipe with SS Mufflers and Resonated HFC's

5. GTHAUS Full Catback with stock cats and with HFC's

Sound with stock cats alone and GTHAUS is phenomenal even compared to any previous setup IMHO.

I agree with Vivid Racing, side by side there is no comparison, sound was a huge difference between Meisterschaft and any of my previous FI setups although a non resonated FI setup with RHFC's sounds very good too.

Will one exhaust make more power than the other? Yeah probably but that was not my goal here.

My car has always been daily driven very low (Slammed) so another reason why I got away from FI was because I destroyed 2 sets of mufflers.

Quality is all there and worth every penny you get with GTHAUS. Lowered car friendly was also a huge plus even though I love the angled mufflers from FI I prefer the way GTHAUS stacked there system so the clearance is great even when I air down

Agreed, I like the stacked mufflers vs. the angled look even on my stock height Z. That's why I went with Berk (couldn't justify a $2,500 exhaust for a DD).

cigarclifford · 08-06-2014, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vividracing

1. Better sound is a matter of opinion
2. Performance really hasn't been proven (im in the process of getting dyno results right now)
3. Quality? I hope you arent trying to say that the FI is better quality, cause one look at both of them side by side, and that myth is busted.
4. I dont make anyone overpay for anything.. Not like i make the pricing. If anything, If one of my forum customer wants a very good exhaust and wants to spend the money on a Meisterschaft system, they get a nice discount.

So, just to recap... Nothing you said really holds any water. I dont see why you're so hell bent against Meisterschaft either?

You are indeed correct that sound is the most subjective topic for all of us....

vividracing · 08-06-2014, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by cigarclifford

You are indeed correct that sound is the most subjective topic for all of us....

These discussions sure do help the day go by though

Also... I did have a local guy with a 2014 Nismo just message me about possibly doing the install and before and after dyno, so lets all keep our fingers crossed!

cigarclifford · 08-06-2014, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by vividracing

These discussions sure do help the day go by though

Also... I did have a local guy with a 2014 Nismo just message me about possibly doing the install and before and after dyno, so lets all keep our fingers crossed!

Greetings Vivid Racing, you sure have my vote for patience and understanding.
Food for thought.......... How much sound can you really extrapolate from a Nissan factory built and machine assembled Nissan 370Z engine... Again exhaust sounds are extremely subjective to all of us. GL

cigarclifford · 08-06-2014, 06:15 PM

Here is a short video to break all this friction and tension today. Cheer Up All......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIXwQVFt8Ho

vividracing · 08-06-2014, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cigarclifford

Here is a short video to break all this friction and tension today. Cheer Up All......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIXwQVFt8Ho

Is HE the reason i never got my pizza?!

08-06-2014, 03:12 PM	#48 (permalink)
diego@vossen Track Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Miami Posts: 614 Drives: Nismo 370Z 6MT Tech Rep Power: 13	Not a Z but here is my G37 with stock cats and full GTHAUS http://youtu.be/zPrWmmFng1g Tempestz likes this.

08-06-2014, 03:25 PM	#50 (permalink)
vividracing The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Gilbert, AZ Age: 38 Posts: 7,306 Drives: 350Z,370Z,GTR Rep Power: 39	[QUOTE=soooo better sound, performance, and quality for 1/2 the price. hmmm and the FI guys are the dumb ones....ok buddy. you just keep making people overpay for parts. enjoy.[/QUOTE] 1. Better sound is a matter of opinion 2. Performance really hasn't been proven (im in the process of getting dyno results right now) 3. Quality? I hope you arent trying to say that the FI is better quality, cause one look at both of them side by side, and that myth is busted. 4. I dont make anyone overpay for anything.. Not like i make the pricing. If anything, If one of my forum customer wants a very good exhaust and wants to spend the money on a Meisterschaft system, they get a nice discount. So, just to recap... Nothing you said really holds any water. I dont see why you're so hell bent against Meisterschaft either? ZKraken22 and SuperDave like this. __________________ Rocky @ Vivid ♦ 480.966.3040 x236 ♦ Rocky@vividracing.com Email, PM, or call me directly for aggressive The370Z.com member pricing!!!

08-06-2014, 03:38 PM	#54 (permalink)
diego@vossen Track Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Miami Posts: 614 Drives: Nismo 370Z 6MT Tech Rep Power: 13	I have ran both FI and GTHAUS. 1. Fast Intentions - Magnaflow Mid-Pipe with SS Mufflers (Old Style) 2. Fast Intentions - 18" Resonated X-Pipe with CF MUfflers 3. Fast Intentions - 12" Resonated X-Pipe with SS MUfflers 4. Fast Intentions - 12" Resonated X-Pipe with SS Mufflers and Resonated HFC's 5. GTHAUS Full Catback with stock cats and with RHFC's Sound with stock cats alone and GTHAUS is phenomenal even compared to any previous setup IMHO. I agree with Vivid Racing, side by side there is no comparison, sound was a huge difference between Meisterschaft and any of my previous FI setups although a non resonated FI setup with RHFC's sounds very good too. Will one exhaust make more power than the other? Yeah probably but that was not my goal here. My car has always been daily driven very low (Slammed) so another reason why I got away from FI was because I destroyed 2 sets of mufflers. Quality is all there and worth every penny you get with GTHAUS. Lowered car friendly was also a huge plus even though I love the angled mufflers from FI I prefer the way GTHAUS stacked there system so the clearance is great even when I air down ZKraken22 and Tempestz like this. Last edited by diego@vossen; 08-06-2014 at 03:47 PM.

08-06-2014, 06:15 PM	#59 (permalink)
cigarclifford A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Cali State Hospital Posts: 13,351 Drives: 2017 Corvette Z06 Rep Power: 458713	Here is a short video to break all this friction and tension today. Cheer Up All...... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIXwQVFt8Ho __________________ -Clifford

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