Nissan 370Z Forum  

Increases from Exhaust, CAI, and Tune

our bolt on parts are definitely over price but 15hp is a joke. I had short ram intakes sucking in hot air, and 2.25" hfc & cat back and dyno'd

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Nissan 370Z Tech Area > Engine & Drivetrain > Intake/Exhaust


Like Tree10Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-28-2014, 08:41 PM   #16 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Tampa, FL
Posts: 144
Drives: 2008 G37s
Rep Power: 11
G37Some is on a distinguished road
Default

our bolt on parts are definitely over price but 15hp is a joke.

I had short ram intakes sucking in hot air, and 2.25" hfc & cat back and dyno'd at 283whp without a tune. For the same dyno the baseline stock numbers are typically around 270whp according to the tuner. The tune got me up to 300whp and 250tq, but generally 295-300whp pull after pull. (fwiw it was winter in FL and about 65* with little to no humidity). those 3 bolt ons cost me about $1700 and $625 for the tune. All in about $2300 and gained about 30whp and 25tq over stock.

I recently upgraded to the stillen intakes and ART Pipes with an E370 and just got a retune a few days ago. In 95* heat (probably higher in the garage) with about 50% humidity I was pulling about 295whp and 245tq consistently. in better conditions i'm sure the numbers would be slightly higher, but nothing to write home about. The important part is knowing everything is optimized as best as possible. This set up cost me about $2500 and the E370 was pre-love with about 2k miles on it. Retail all in everything would be close to $2800 + $600 for a tune totalling about $3400 for 30whp and 25tq. This is definitely a steep price to pay. but you also have to factor in how amazing and unique these mods sound in their own right. completely sets you apart from every other car on the road. not to mention the quality of the parts. It is satisfying and relieving you are not putting garbage on such a beautiful car.

do I regret spending all that money on bolt ons instead of jumping strait to FI? no, it is a an ongoing project for almost 2 years now and fun to try out different things and experience different stages of the cars life, also resale helps offset the costs of new things but at the end of the day if you love driving and looking at your car - the money is worth it and you can always make more and add more mods later down the line.
__________________
instagram : @TurboG37
G37Some is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2014, 08:52 PM   #17 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 223
Drives: 2009 370z 7at
Rep Power: 11
TheBoomSpoon is on a distinguished road
Default

If i lived in high elevation above 3k i wouldnt mod it all unless going forced induction. If your manual do the 4.08 gears and your set and much cheaper than doing the bolt ons. Ltr
TheBoomSpoon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-30-2014, 02:18 PM   #18 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
Roddy1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Canada/Cayman Islands
Posts: 274
Drives: SRT Viper
Rep Power: 11
Roddy1 is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by G37Some View Post
our bolt on parts are definitely over price but 15hp is a joke.

I had short ram intakes sucking in hot air, and 2.25" hfc & cat back and dyno'd at 283whp without a tune. For the same dyno the baseline stock numbers are typically around 270whp according to the tuner. The tune got me up to 300whp and 250tq, but generally 295-300whp pull after pull. (fwiw it was winter in FL and about 65* with little to no humidity). those 3 bolt ons cost me about $1700 and $625 for the tune. All in about $2300 and gained about 30whp and 25tq over stock.

I recently upgraded to the stillen intakes and ART Pipes with an E370 and just got a retune a few days ago. In 95* heat (probably higher in the garage) with about 50% humidity I was pulling about 295whp and 245tq consistently. in better conditions i'm sure the numbers would be slightly higher, but nothing to write home about. The important part is knowing everything is optimized as best as possible. This set up cost me about $2500 and the E370 was pre-love with about 2k miles on it. Retail all in everything would be close to $2800 + $600 for a tune totalling about $3400 for 30whp and 25tq. This is definitely a steep price to pay. but you also have to factor in how amazing and unique these mods sound in their own right. completely sets you apart from every other car on the road. not to mention the quality of the parts. It is satisfying and relieving you are not putting garbage on such a beautiful car.

do I regret spending all that money on bolt ons instead of jumping strait to FI? no, it is a an ongoing project for almost 2 years now and fun to try out different things and experience different stages of the cars life, also resale helps offset the costs of new things but at the end of the day if you love driving and looking at your car - the money is worth it and you can always make more and add more mods later down the line.
Heck my DD RCSB Sierra w/5.3 and under $1k in mods can cut low 14's... (intake, headers, tune) throw a converter in and thats 370Z territory... just sayin...
__________________
2011 370Z, 6-Speed Manual, Sport Package. - K&N Drop ins | Top Speed Axleback | H&R Spacers SOLD
2009 G8 GT, 6.0L LSX V8, Rotofab Intake, ARH Long tubes, SOLO exhaust, VMS Tune - SOLD
Roddy1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-30-2014, 02:35 PM   #19 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
synolimit's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Columbus, OH
Posts: 5,051
Drives: 2013 Silver 370z
Rep Power: 3389
synolimit has a reputation beyond reputesynolimit has a reputation beyond reputesynolimit has a reputation beyond reputesynolimit has a reputation beyond reputesynolimit has a reputation beyond reputesynolimit has a reputation beyond reputesynolimit has a reputation beyond reputesynolimit has a reputation beyond reputesynolimit has a reputation beyond reputesynolimit has a reputation beyond reputesynolimit has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by G37Some View Post
our bolt on parts are definitely over price but 15hp is a joke.

I had short ram intakes sucking in hot air, and 2.25" hfc & cat back and dyno'd at 283whp without a tune. For the same dyno the baseline stock numbers are typically around 270whp according to the tuner. The tune got me up to 300whp and 250tq, but generally 295-300whp pull after pull. (fwiw it was winter in FL and about 65* with little to no humidity). those 3 bolt ons cost me about $1700 and $625 for the tune. All in about $2300 and gained about 30whp and 25tq over stock.

I recently upgraded to the stillen intakes and ART Pipes with an E370 and just got a retune a few days ago. In 95* heat (probably higher in the garage) with about 50% humidity I was pulling about 295whp and 245tq consistently. in better conditions i'm sure the numbers would be slightly higher, but nothing to write home about. The important part is knowing everything is optimized as best as possible. This set up cost me about $2500 and the E370 was pre-love with about 2k miles on it. Retail all in everything would be close to $2800 + $600 for a tune totalling about $3400 for 30whp and 25tq. This is definitely a steep price to pay. but you also have to factor in how amazing and unique these mods sound in their own right. completely sets you apart from every other car on the road. not to mention the quality of the parts. It is satisfying and relieving you are not putting garbage on such a beautiful car.

do I regret spending all that money on bolt ons instead of jumping strait to FI? no, it is a an ongoing project for almost 2 years now and fun to try out different things and experience different stages of the cars life, also resale helps offset the costs of new things but at the end of the day if you love driving and looking at your car - the money is worth it and you can always make more and add more mods later down the line.
M370 kills your top end. Sell and buy the OEM ported one from z1.
__________________
13 370z-
synolimit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-30-2014, 06:20 PM   #20 (permalink)
Track Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Puyallup
Posts: 856
Drives: 09 Nissan 370z MB M6
Rep Power: 14
Japanjay is on a distinguished road
Default

I clicked off a 13.4 with just Gen3's and **** traction in first and was crab walking fighting it to stay in the groove through second. I am hoping this fall to click off maybe a high 12 with the new exhaust and tune. If you get a nismo don't expect huge gains like the base sports get, you are already 18whp more with a nismo exhaust and tune. Take those 2 away and add in a Fast Intentions and Gen3's with Osiris and you will get the same power as a Base with identical mods. I am really hoping to go from 273whp base to around 315-320 with Test pipes, Gen3's, tomie y & y-back with tune this Friday. Fingers crossed for about a 40whp gain for $3k.
Japanjay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-30-2014, 06:39 PM   #21 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
Jimbo370's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Florida
Posts: 466
Drives: 09 black 370z MT
Rep Power: 11
Jimbo370 is on a distinguished road
Default

What about the aftermarket pulley? nobody using them or modified manifold?
Jimbo370 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-30-2014, 06:54 PM   #22 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
axmea?'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: SoCal
Posts: 6,236
Drives: WELL ZED PW 6MT
Rep Power: 53241
axmea? has a reputation beyond reputeaxmea? has a reputation beyond reputeaxmea? has a reputation beyond reputeaxmea? has a reputation beyond reputeaxmea? has a reputation beyond reputeaxmea? has a reputation beyond reputeaxmea? has a reputation beyond reputeaxmea? has a reputation beyond reputeaxmea? has a reputation beyond reputeaxmea? has a reputation beyond reputeaxmea? has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by peleincubus View Post
Wow really there are people out there that have only got 15 whp with intakes, exhaust, and tune??

$2,500 or so for 15 horsepower is not very good at all.
If I had another 2500, I'd buy a helmet and go take HPDE sessions. That would make a big performance improvement.
2011 Nismo#91 and Japanjay like this.
__________________

>MyZ's Album< NISMO Convert/ECUTEK/Takeda CAI/F.I. HFC NR CB Carbon/F.I. 34 Row Oil Cooler/4.08 Final Drive /Powertrix+Swifts/Hotchkis/SPL/Whiteline/TWM/Zoom Engineering/EVO-R/AeroJacket Vented CF Fenders + CF Spoiler/Avant Garde-WORK/NST/Morimoto Halo/STi Clear Lenses/Carbon Signal Automotive/RJM Performance/ZSpeed Clutch Flywheel CSC delete
axmea? is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-30-2014, 09:41 PM   #23 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Tampa, FL
Posts: 144
Drives: 2008 G37s
Rep Power: 11
G37Some is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Roddy1 View Post
Heck my DD RCSB Sierra w/5.3 and under $1k in mods can cut low 14's... (intake, headers, tune) throw a converter in and thats 370Z territory... just sayin...
you can also go get a junkyard car at an auction and drop an LS1 in it for what my insurance costs per year.... I wouldnt daily drive that hunk of junk though.
__________________
instagram : @TurboG37
G37Some is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2014, 01:33 AM   #24 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
Roddy1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Canada/Cayman Islands
Posts: 274
Drives: SRT Viper
Rep Power: 11
Roddy1 is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by G37Some View Post
you can also go get a junkyard car at an auction and drop an LS1 in it for what my insurance costs per year.... I wouldnt daily drive that hunk of junk though.
Regardless. Our aftermarket is over priced and the gains in terms of hp per $ hurt. We were not discussing initial purchase price or engine swaps etc.
__________________
2011 370Z, 6-Speed Manual, Sport Package. - K&N Drop ins | Top Speed Axleback | H&R Spacers SOLD
2009 G8 GT, 6.0L LSX V8, Rotofab Intake, ARH Long tubes, SOLO exhaust, VMS Tune - SOLD
Roddy1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2014, 02:12 AM   #25 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
tjlazer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Tacoma
Age: 53
Posts: 2,496
Drives: Z34, R35
Rep Power: 20
tjlazer is just really nicetjlazer is just really nicetjlazer is just really nicetjlazer is just really nice
Send a message via ICQ to tjlazer Send a message via MSN to tjlazer Send a message via Yahoo to tjlazer
Default

My UPREV got me 301 whp and 256 tq

__________________
2009 370Z Monterey Blue,Nismo Conversion,RE-11's, K&N Typhoon intakes,Blue Kickplates,Homelink,FI 18" CBE,ERZ HFCs,Hotchkis sways, Swift Spec-R, EVO-R Highwing, UPREV
tjlazer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2014, 11:02 AM   #26 (permalink)
Base Member
 
12nismo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 153
Drives: 2012 370z nismo
Rep Power: 15
12nismo has a brilliant future12nismo has a brilliant future12nismo has a brilliant future12nismo has a brilliant future12nismo has a brilliant future12nismo has a brilliant future12nismo has a brilliant future12nismo has a brilliant future12nismo has a brilliant future12nismo has a brilliant future12nismo has a brilliant future
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimbo370 View Post
What about the aftermarket pulley? nobody using them or modified manifold?
I'm running both, along with CBE, LTH's, G3's, Uprev tune, and 4.08's. The Motordyne manifold is great for mid-range torque and the Pulleys give you a nice pull throughout the entire RPM range...especially when used with an aluminum flywheel
Benihana likes this.
__________________
nismo Z34 12 0209
JTran Motorsports//Stillen//Fast Intentions//EcuTek//Z1 Motorsports//Eibach//BRIDE //Zspeed//Carbon Signal//Houston Halos//Southbend//Whiteline//TWM//NonStopTuning//Doran Racing
12nismo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2014, 11:43 AM   #27 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
2011 Nismo#91's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: NJ
Posts: 2,402
Drives: slowly
Rep Power: 40569
2011 Nismo#91 has a reputation beyond repute2011 Nismo#91 has a reputation beyond repute2011 Nismo#91 has a reputation beyond repute2011 Nismo#91 has a reputation beyond repute2011 Nismo#91 has a reputation beyond repute2011 Nismo#91 has a reputation beyond repute2011 Nismo#91 has a reputation beyond repute2011 Nismo#91 has a reputation beyond repute2011 Nismo#91 has a reputation beyond repute2011 Nismo#91 has a reputation beyond repute2011 Nismo#91 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

IMO the NA mods give so little bang for the buck they are more for looks and sound then performance. You'll drop 6k+ in just parts and may not even add 50whp. K&N drop in air filters, test pipes, and axle back are the most cost effective modifications.

But after doing a couple HPDE events I really believe money is best spent on upgrading the nut in between the seat and the steering wheel.
Roddy1 likes this.

Last edited by 2011 Nismo#91; 07-31-2014 at 01:59 PM. Reason: I can't spel
2011 Nismo#91 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2014, 08:26 PM   #28 (permalink)
Track Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Puyallup
Posts: 856
Drives: 09 Nissan 370z MB M6
Rep Power: 14
Japanjay is on a distinguished road
Default

316 whp and 249wtq @ 7.7k rpm. Was 318whp at 8k, but I didn't feel comfortable leaving the redline that high so I had him knock it back to 7.7k. I factory baselined at 273. Gen3 CAI / Z1 test pipes / Tomie y-pipe / Tomie y-back. Will have a video up on youtube of the dyno run. This was on a DynoJet.
Benihana likes this.
Japanjay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2014, 09:40 PM   #29 (permalink)
Track Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Puyallup
Posts: 856
Drives: 09 Nissan 370z MB M6
Rep Power: 14
Japanjay is on a distinguished road
Default

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3fKwzeu7pI

I also took a dB meter with me just out of curiosity, I measured my friends 350z with test pipes and injen exhaust, he hit 106dB from about 20' away. I measured mine the same way and at ~4k rpm I went over 130dB and I turned away and ran back. For almost an hour my left ear hurt like a bastard since that was the one that turned into it as I turned around really quickly. Lol Even the tuner was' "that is a loud exhaust, um yeah, increadibly loud". After the first pull he grabbed ear muffs off the wall.
Darketch likes this.
Japanjay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2014, 11:02 PM   #30 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
Darketch's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Virginia
Posts: 429
Drives: 14 NISMO #292
Rep Power: 12
Darketch is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 2011 Nismo#91 View Post
K&N drop in air filters, test pipes, and axle back are the most cost effective modifications.
Got CBE coming...considering test pipes and the drop ins you recommended. At what point do u require a tune? (Car doesn't have 2k miles on it yet, so warranty considerations). Also, I've seen folks who have test pipes and the have the check engine light on....does this always happen with test pipes? And with test pipes, my state requires an inspection....guessing I would need to see a shop that understands the Z so I don't fail. Am I off the mark?
Darketch is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
[WTB] Stock OEM Exhaust or Nismo OEM Exhaust (Not S-Tune) scruffydog Parts for sale (Private Classifieds) 5 05-18-2012 02:23 AM
S tune Nismo exhaust Zrider79 Wanted 4 11-04-2011 03:17 PM
Study: Teen Drug Use Increases Isamu The Lounge (Off Topic) 0 04-09-2011 11:36 AM
Anybody got exhaust sound clip of OEM Nismo (Not S-Tune) exhaust? '10Anamoly Intake/Exhaust 2 10-22-2010 04:58 PM
Nismo S-Tune Exhaust (15-5850) vs. Nismo H-Pipe Config Exhaust scruffydog Intake/Exhaust 7 07-17-2009 07:33 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:17 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2