Custom ported and CNC throttle bodies, upper and lower manifolds by Synergy Composite

synolimit · 11-26-2014, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mishuko

But isn't that the point of this open forum? this is in the intake/exhaust section and intend to keep my car NA while looking at possibilities to improving the HP hence my 'nose poking'. So I get an intake/exhuast, headers and tune... what else will get any more out of an NA? Well last time I checked port n polish is another option.

One vendor will sell gen 3's for 500 another might sell for 450 another for 475. The whole point is trying to find out our cost to build is so that we share our resources to find out if a potential vendor is over charging you or not. And even if you have, it reverts back to my original question of 'validity and skepitcal about price'. If you were able to get NEW gen 3's for 250, I would call that BS because I know that even used that's a bargain. I'm trying to do you a favour in seeking clarity of your claims but you've come off a bit strong.

What you sell to another person may not be the same price as someone who can bargain, that's private and I do not care for those #'s I care about what listed price was so I can make an informed decision. After all the 'mods' you've done, get a price point. Your new port and polish and see the price point again, to determine 'would it be worth it for me'. You've placed this into the tech section and regardless if you agree or not people want to know price points to determine if it's within budget. I know I don't have an unlimited tap of cash and I want to first do the mods that I can afford that will give me reasonable gains.

And go ahead and report people that you are not comfortable with, but I will restate this again in more simple terms. Personal PM's are NOT public hence should NOT be made public unless explicitly expressed by the other party. So unless TRIPS said 'go ahead and post our conversation in regards to blablabla' that is against the rules.

But I can't give you true numbers you seek till you see the dyno one the 30th. My prices/hook ups have nothing to do with this topic or me from here on out. It has to do with what I'm charging in the other proper thread plus the HP you will see here on the 30th. I'm so confused why this doesn't click with you.

I get that! That's why I have a FOR SALE THREAD!!! MINES from Japan are $1600 after cores, Z1's are $895 after cores, my TB's are $305 after cores! I don't think I'm the one you need to worry about! My upper is also $70-80 cheaper than Z1. Again, why are you worried about me? I'm sorry if I come off as strong, it's to one member and one member ONLY! I have also shown the increase in CnC/porting WITH the weight savings!! I don't see how I could POSSIBLY show you more info! Z1 doesn't show you that. They just say buy our 62mm TB's and that's it! Mine are 63mm, mine have flat head screws installed, mine are also machined to have a thinner butterfly shaft. This has all been said before and still mine are the cheapest. If you want more info then search the FS thread and ask people who have bought and are happy. I literally can't do anymore.

Well then show me the rule book. Because if you ever PM a person what they paid or got done and both parties don't know you're getting the info...then we all need banned 1000 times over.

PS, again I'm so lost how you think what I paid for stuff has any bearing on this topic. Do you ask owners of a dealership what their hold back and floor planning is on new and used cars? No you don't because it's not your business. They'll tell you invoice and rebates. You don't get to ask what he sold the same car to his wife for.

mishuko · 11-26-2014, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by synolimit

But I can't give you true numbers you seek till you see the dyno one the 30th. My prices/hook ups have nothing to do with this topic or me from here on out. It has to do with what I'm charging in the other proper thread plus the HP you will see here on the 30th. I'm so confused why this doesn't click with you.

I get that! That's why I have a FOR SALE THREAD!!! MINES from Japan are $1600 after cores, Z1's are $895 after cores, my TB's are $305 after cores! I don't think I'm the one you need to worry about! My upper is also $70-80 cheaper than Z1. Again, why are you worried about me? I'm sorry if I come off as strong, it's to one member and one member ONLY! I have also shown the increase in CnC/porting WITH the weight savings!! I don't see how I could POSSIBLY show you more info! Z1 doesn't show you that. They just say buy our 62mm TB's and that's it! Mine are 63mm, mine have flat head screws installed, mine are also machined to have a thinner butterfly shaft. This has all been said before and still mine are the cheapest. If you want more info then search the FS thread and ask people who have bought and are happy. I literally can't do anymore.

Well then show me the rule book. Because if you ever PM a person what they paid or got done and both parties don't know you're getting the info...then we all need banned 1000 times over.

PS, again I'm so lost how you think what I paid for stuff has any bearing on this topic. Do you ask owners of a dealership what their hold back and floor planning is on new and used cars? No you don't because it's not your business. They'll tell you invoice and rebates. You don't get to ask what he sold the same car to his wife for.

Nissan 370Z Forum - Announcements in Forum : Announcements

I suggest you look at the bottom, but here

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*DO NOT post/DISCUSS private messages in public. They are called "private messages" for a reason. If you have a problem with a fellow member, feel free to pm Admins or moderators your pms. No exceptions.

Anyways back to my questions, you're answering it for me. I am not concerned as to what 'deals' you worked out with vendors/suppliers what I am looking for is what if a layman came into the room and said 'I want to port n polish, what damage to my wallet am I looking at'

I understand you may be having a dispute with others and you will never see eye-to-eye with everyone. Fair enough, but I feel that you are unjustly vindicating a few other members that have asked valid questions that I think is beneficial to know.

Back to your prices, that would have saved us a lot of redundant typing if you answered that the first time

synolimit · 11-26-2014, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by mishuko

Nissan 370Z Forum - Announcements in Forum : Announcements

I suggest you look at the bottom, but here

Anyways back to my questions, you're answering it for me. I am not concerned as to what 'deals' you worked out with vendors/suppliers what I am looking for is what if a layman came into the room and said 'I want to port n polish, what damage to my wallet am I looking at'

I understand you may be having a dispute with others and you will never see eye-to-eye with everyone. Fair enough, but I feel that you are unjustly vindicating a few other members that have asked valid questions that I think is beneficial to know.

Back to your prices, that would have saved us a lot of redundant typing if you answered that the first time

Well good thing I didn't post it publicly. I did no wrong per that rule.

Than to answer you and everyone for the hundredth time, I'd show you the FS post!!! I'm not sure why we are still talking about this as I've said it again and again. I do not discuss price here, that's why I have a FS thread for which I've been selling for months. I've also already said you can search me and click my name and my threads started. I've also posted the link! But you even said and I quote

"Circling around my question but not answering it so let me clarify. They were asking you the price of your build because they were interested but you did not respond constructively. I'm not asking what your vendor price is, I was asking you what the cost of your build is."

So which is it??! You want my personal info with venders or you want what it will do to your wallet? Make up your mind.

synolimit · 11-26-2014, 01:34 PM

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FPenvy · 11-26-2014, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by mishuko

Back to your prices, that would have saved us a lot of redundant typing if you answered that the first time

synolimit · 11-26-2014, 01:54 PM

Amazing how I agree too, hell I think I agreed hours ago!!!!! what do you know??

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Originally Posted by synolimit

I'm sorry I forgot there wasn't a search button here and maybe the 5000+ views might not have be everyone here.

http://www.the370z.com/exhaust-intak...composite.html

FPenvy · 11-26-2014, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by synolimit

Amazing how I agree too, hell I think I agreed hours ago!!!!! what do you know??

the fact that you posted that is irrelevant.

the fact that you get touchy, take shots at peope, make numerous insults, continue to carry on in anger rather than solving the issue.

if you had any hope on surviving and thriving as a vendor then you should have been calm, collected, and level headed. could have just answered the initial question instead of letting previous encounters fuel your rage in a thread with your "company" name on it.

i honestly am shopping for more options to increase HP. port/polish is about the only route left aside from if someone makes a nice intake manifold. however, based on your piss poor behavior as a vendor, i will be going else where. then again the HP shown in previous dynos with all this is still currently less than that of what i've already put down.

the dyno on the 30th would have to show significant results along with an appology to regain any chance of getting my business.

m3chhawk · 11-26-2014, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

if you had any hope on surviving and thriving as a vendor then you should have been calm, collected, and level headed. could have just answered the initial question instead of letting previous encounters fuel your rage in a thread with your "company" name on it.

Agreed. As a vendor you are (as you should be) held to a higher level of professionalism. Something you have yet to exhibit. It doesn't matter how great you think your end product is, with no customer experience, you will cease to exist. You've already lost me as a potential customer because of a lack of professionalism. I'd suggest you calm your tits before you lose more

synolimit · 11-26-2014, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by m3chhawk

Agreed. As a vendor you are (as you should be) held to a higher level of professionalism. Something you have yet to exhibit. It doesn't matter how great you think your end product is, with no customer experience, you will cease to exist. You've already lost me as a potential customer because of a lack of professionalism. I'd suggest you calm your tits before you lose more

Hello, not sure who you're quoting, all I see is a blank screen from nobody.

We have customer existence. I'd refer you to view the FS post and have my permission to PM them. If they don't PM you back that's their right. You can also PM me for more info and possible contacts of buyers who are more than happy with zero complaints yet. If I lost you that's fine, I don't let trolls get the better of me and sorry you side with one.

Have a good day.

Scott

synolimit · 11-26-2014, 02:45 PM

O and I just wanted to post one thing...after intake and test pipes I'm not sure what people are expecting from this mod. Typically after everything you're going to be lucky for 10hp unless you spend $1000 plus. NA power is VERY hard to come by late in the game. An example would be E85, after injectors and pump for $600-900 you should be around 10hp and TQ give or take. That's my goal for these parts. Not sure if people are sitting back waiting to see 20+ but that's a huge pipe dream. Forced Induction is another story though!

Scott

SgtGoldy · 11-26-2014, 02:58 PM

Commenting to save for later...

Love it FP... you never stop hahaha

Jordo! · 11-26-2014, 10:38 PM

I probably should stay out of this, but...

Am I correct that Syno is offering pnp services, but dyno results are on hold until the end of the month?

So... let's all just wait for that?

Or, if one is adventurous, and the services are offered presently as an at-your-own risk mod if at all, then sounds like things are all on the up-and-up so far.

I'm looking forward to the results. The value of the service for the cost (to be determined?) is yet to be clarified, or so I gather, so I don't see why anyone is getting rankled...

Am I missing something/misstating something?

If so, my apologies... I balked at carefully reviewing 30 pages of debate over this matter, given that dynos are scheduled and will be posted in due course.

I mean, look at all the testing, reporting, and analysis I try to share, and I'm not even selling anything -- I just like cars, hypothesis testing, data, and other embarrassingly nerdish things...

In short, I can wait -- I don't see why everyone else can't chill out too. It's Turkey Day. Have some pie and some beer in the meantime

synolimit · 11-26-2014, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordo!

Am I correct that Syno is offering pnp services, but dyno results are on hold until the end of the month?

So... let's all just wait for that?

Or, if one is adventurous, and the services are offered presently as an at-your-own risk mod if at all, then sounds like things are all on the up-and-up so far.

I'm looking forward to the results. The value of the service for the cost (to be determined?) is yet to be clarified, or so I gather, so I don't see why anyone is getting rankled...

Am I missing something/misstating something?

If so, my apologies... I balked at carefully reviewing 30 pages of debate over this matter, given that dynos are scheduled and will be posted in due course.

I mean, look at all the testing, reporting, and analysis I try to share, and I'm not even selling anything -- I just like cars, hypothesis testing, data, and other embarrassingly nerdish things...

In short, I can wait -- I don't see why everyone else can't chill out too. It's Turkey Day. Have some pie and some beer in the meantime

Thank you and so far over a dozen have taken the plung. One of which has even dyno'd but didn't do a before and after part install, he just showed up with everything on. Most have seen this in the tuning section I believe. Only thing to make the 30th go better is having a m370 on hand. Not sure though how to make that work and be cost effective but my buyer does have one he's currently trying to sell.

synolimit · 11-26-2014, 11:49 PM

Info from my partner, nice info! The Jim he's talking about is also setting up a flow bench for us to test and retest the porting to 1. Make it accurate and 2. Possibly make changes for the better if need be.

"Also I talked to my engine guy Jim he said if we want we can do the heads too and he has also pretty extensive experience with the 370z engine. So if any of these guys are serious about built engines. He did some teams Nissan programs for them he does a ton of Mazda stuff too."

Jordo! · 11-27-2014, 03:27 AM

^^^ That all sounds reasonable to me.

Looking forward to the results

11-26-2014, 02:45 PM	#445 (permalink)
synolimit A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2013 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 5,051 Drives: 2013 Silver 370z Rep Power: 3389	O and I just wanted to post one thing...after intake and test pipes I'm not sure what people are expecting from this mod. Typically after everything you're going to be lucky for 10hp unless you spend $1000 plus. NA power is VERY hard to come by late in the game. An example would be E85, after injectors and pump for $600-900 you should be around 10hp and TQ give or take. That's my goal for these parts. Not sure if people are sitting back waiting to see 20+ but that's a huge pipe dream. Forced Induction is another story though! Scott __________________ 13 370z-

11-26-2014, 02:58 PM	#446 (permalink)
SgtGoldy A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 3,503 Drives: C63 AMG - LSD Rep Power: 650	Commenting to save for later... Love it FP... you never stop hahaha FPenvy likes this. __________________ C63 AMG LSD - Straight Pipe - EuroCharge v5 - Vossen CV7 - IG: @SuperFastYo

11-26-2014, 10:38 PM	#447 (permalink)
Jordo! A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: nirvana Posts: 6,394 Drives: 2023 NATM Rep Power: 418	I probably should stay out of this, but... Am I correct that Syno is offering pnp services, but dyno results are on hold until the end of the month? So... let's all just wait for that? Or, if one is adventurous, and the services are offered presently as an at-your-own risk mod if at all, then sounds like things are all on the up-and-up so far. I'm looking forward to the results. The value of the service for the cost (to be determined?) is yet to be clarified, or so I gather, so I don't see why anyone is getting rankled... Am I missing something/misstating something? If so, my apologies... I balked at carefully reviewing 30 pages of debate over this matter, given that dynos are scheduled and will be posted in due course. I mean, look at all the testing, reporting, and analysis I try to share, and I'm not even selling anything -- I just like cars, hypothesis testing, data, and other embarrassingly nerdish things... In short, I can wait -- I don't see why everyone else can't chill out too. It's Turkey Day. Have some pie and some beer in the meantime FL 4Motion and gomer_110 like this. __________________ Enjoy it. Destroy it.

11-26-2014, 11:49 PM	#449 (permalink)
synolimit A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2013 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 5,051 Drives: 2013 Silver 370z Rep Power: 3389	Info from my partner, nice info! The Jim he's talking about is also setting up a flow bench for us to test and retest the porting to 1. Make it accurate and 2. Possibly make changes for the better if need be. "Also I talked to my engine guy Jim he said if we want we can do the heads too and he has also pretty extensive experience with the 370z engine. So if any of these guys are serious about built engines. He did some teams Nissan programs for them he does a ton of Mazda stuff too." Jordo! and jrb55gh like this. __________________ 13 370z-

11-27-2014, 03:27 AM	#450 (permalink)
Jordo! A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: nirvana Posts: 6,394 Drives: 2023 NATM Rep Power: 418	^^^ That all sounds reasonable to me. Looking forward to the results synolimit likes this. __________________ Enjoy it. Destroy it.

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