Custom ported and CNC throttle bodies, upper and lower manifolds by Synergy Composite

synolimit

Just give me function. I can't say its offical but the cost of porting these 4 items will be close to the cost of the Z1 ported mani which is just a single item!!

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FPenvy

well ok then lol now lets just hope they put down some impressive numbers.

if so then i might have to get in line.

regardless still gotta factor in the cost of a re-tune with this or the Z1 mani. dont really see a way around that unless you self-tune.

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Sh0velMan

Needs to be like for like compared against the Z1 manifold if you want any results you collect to be meaningful.

Z1, whether you choose to believe them or not, has provided such results with their marketing information. You would need to do the same if you want to present the product as superior. Otherwise you're going down the Akuma Motorsports Intake vs Stillen road.

Also, you, or the guy actually going to be making and selling these things, will need to get a vendor account on this site or the site operator will be highly displeased with you.

Good luck! Definitely watching and waiting for results!

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FPenvy

hey now i like my akuma intakes lol

also i ended up putting down more HP than another 7at Z the same day with stillens and a f.i. exhaust

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synolimit

Maybe. That's why we will dyno with every part tuned and untuned. I'm untuned now with LTH, CBE, custom cai and the data log looks perfect. Its a little rich so actually more air flow could only help. We shall see whats needed.

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FPenvy

that just seems weird since most of the time people are running very lean after exhaust and intakes are added. idk i'm not a tuner hence why i let someone else do it for me lol

any time frame on completion and dyno runs?

its nice to see something new trying to be done for the platform since no one really has messed with the lower mani or TB's. i mean GTM has that GT-R conversion kit for like 1500 and i think i may have seen one other place with TB uprgrades but cant remember where it was or cost.

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FPenvy

found it lol oh google you rascal you.

Mines Motor Sports

Mine's has a TB upgrade for $1600 with core exchange.

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synolimit

Would z1's really matter? If I dyno again as is and put down 295/246 that I do, add our mani and it puts down say 10hp increase in the mid range where it counts and maybe a few up top so the peaks read 299/250, does another manifold need to be even mentioned if our mani shows goods gains and is half the cost or even less with better porting done?

The vender thing I'll have to talk with the owner on. I might just say, here's their website. Call or go there or mail your stuff in to get done. Wouldn't be any different than saying Discount Tire did a great alignment for me, go see them.

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Sh0velMan

This ECU tends to work contrary to what you would expect. Don't be surprised if it gets richer as airflow increases.

If you get too far outside the expected envelope, in either direction, the car will just start dumping fuel, without throwing any codes or anything.

Example, put a 2.75" intake on the car. Does it go super lean and throw a code/go into limp mode?

Nope, soldiers right along, pegged at 10.5:1 in open loop, sits right in the expected range in closed loop. Clearly uses the MAFs for open loop only, relies almost exclusively on the O2 sensors for closed.


All this is to say, once you do your intake mods, if the car is flowing too much more than the ecu expects, even if it is tracking right on the MAF table, it's probably gonna start dumping fuel until you tune it, so don't expect a lot of gains beyond what you already have when adding parts.

Just my personal experiences and those of close acquaintances, I'm sure there are 10 experts on this site that will disagree.

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Sh0velMan

There's a shop I linked in another thread that will do it for $200 if you mail in your TBs.

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Sh0velMan

Only matters if you say "It is better than Z1's manifold" which you suggested it might be in a previous post, that's all.

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synolimit

I dynoed with cai and CBE then the LTH. You can see the sniffer tail pipe in the pic. The sniffer though is about 0.5 higher/leaner than actual though since that's read at the stock wideband. So I could use some leaning out still and some more timing.

I still need TB's so my cars not down. Anyone have some?

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FPenvy

not a bad looking graph.

sadly the graph i got from my tuner didnt include my AFR on the bottom

i mean i didnt ask for it but every time i see one its on there hence why i just assumed it would be on mine. i got the graph pic saved on here if needed. its decent for just intakes and exhaust.

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FPenvy

yea people are reallllllly touchy if a vendor/sponsors name pops up in a possible negative light. different wording and you should be ok.

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synolimit

Lol wow! IPS can setup the TB's on a CNC but that will mean new butterfly's. We will have to figure out the cost vs increase in power vs what just knife edging the stock TB with PnP will do.

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