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Old 07-17-2014, 03:23 PM   #241 (permalink)
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I have to side with rt tuning. They replied to syno professionally and well-mannered, and then syno had to be an a-hole because he couldnt save 175 bucks. Its the shops decision whether or not to give you a discount, not yours. And they had a valid reason not to give you the discount too. Synos behavior is uncalled for, but I can understand the frustration. Dont take it out on rt tuning, its not their fault. Gl finding the right tuner.
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I have to side with them also , I have never used them but know a few people that have I had been referred to them by more than a handful of people but just never made the drive from Boston, I can how ever speak on talking to them,. I talked to Vince and the guys over there a few times back when I was going through all my issues with me SC, He offered to help out all I had to do was get there car towed there- Heck even offered to help find a tow place to send it back for me.. They are good people over there and some of things you said "Like I tune subi's ,ECT " made it look you wanted a hook up or something from them, Then tossing prices around, and stated I could have got this "IF" , EH just go some where else and maybe come off a little different when talking to someone you want to work "for you". Someone always knows more than you :/

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Old 07-17-2014, 04:57 PM   #243 (permalink)
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1. uprev license price: their retail price on that is $300. that is what we charge, and that is what it has been for along time. The $150 cost of the license is incorrect, however that was a deal they offered at one time several years ago at sema if you bought 20+ licenses at once. They did this so they could help raise more money to grow their business and develop products. That is no longer the cost of a license, not that that is any of your business. If someone does have some left over licenses from several years ago that they still have not used, and wants to sell them at a discounted rate, thats their choice. We however blew through those licenses in a matter of weeks.
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totally true . as the last big special on License was on November 1st 2012
here is the quote of the email they sent to every PRO Tuner which came from Jared ( with some censure for business reason. )

Hello Everyone,

I just wanted to let everyone know that we are now offering discounts on volume license purchases. If you purchase 20 or more licenses you can get an extra XX% off for a total of XX% off MSRP bringing the price down from $XXX/each to $150/each.

Jared.



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don't get me wrong but according to the email log, you came up strong with some attitude with their pricing and even started making threat to make them look bad on the forum.

Im very glad that you wish to do the same as I did in the pass on the VVEL platform but this between you and R/T isn't cool from you.

they haven't told you to get lost, but they just didn't accept that old deal that was done in the pass.. you cant go to a business and tell them to charge you that previous deal which is obviously finish.*or at their discretion * there wasn't any point to get mad at them.


I would have done the same as them after getting that attitude and threat. no possible business.
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Old 07-17-2014, 05:42 PM   #244 (permalink)
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Reading what RT Tuning posted. I'm going OMG. This kid needs some leasons on how to talk to people. Writing like you got a chip on your shoulder don't cut it.

You got some interesting ideas running around in your skull. But your attitude just kills it.

Good luck on getting it tuned.
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Ruining a shops name because they wouldn't honor a sale from months ago is just pathetic man. I do all the work on my own car, and RT tuned it. Im very picky with who I let touch my car and IF I ever had to take it to a shop to have anything done I wouldn't hesitate to take it to them again. They were very careful with my car and the staff was all friendly, they really are a great shop. You really need to get some people skills.
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Matt at Smokeys will be doing everything thanks. $525 year round and how it should be. IPS is $500 but the old tuner left and the GM tuners taking over. Just not 100% about that.
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By the second email, really?

God forbid I ask someone to earn my business and when did email show empathy and true facial gestures as you talk to someone face to face? I asked people daily selling vehicles for 3 years what can I do for you, still do in my new job and have zero issue doing ANYTHING for them. I have plenty of people skills and I'd do anything for a customer. If you can't see that fine, to others, get ripped on price any tuner can do (not including a shelf map).

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look you said it yourself, you had a very good friendly relationship with your previous tuner who is unavailable now. and you go to a a shop where they don't fcking know you at all. and ask them to reduce their pricing on a halfass N/A mod testing on your part. going back to another dyno after being tuned isn't gonna show the true gain since quite a bit of factor can affect the dyno reading. you cant fool yourself on this .

so after seeing your demand , they see you just as an know it all guy who tuned subbie but isn't willing to tune a simple VQ37VHR which isn't rocket science.

then they showed you how much they charge you. which would be 300$ licence + 400$ dyno tuning time at 700$. Like he said that the normal price charge on a non-special pricing sale.


then what you do after their reply ?

- you come back as your know it all guy who tuned subbies & worked at IPS for 5 years and a friend showed you on how to tune.

- then, you mention that 150$/ Uprev licenses which you don't fcking know the Uprev business to beginning with. and mention that for a Uprev dealer they gets licenses at 150$ which is false , your friend probably forgot to mention the previous big sale of the license from Uprev to their PRO/dealer tuner.

- you mentioned that R/T are doubling the license price which is arguing on a topic you don't really know in the first place. are you a Pro Tuner or Uprev Dealer ? d you have an account with them ?
I guess not . so you had NO reason to argue on their licensee price.

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My total at IPS would of been $450 if he didn't just leave ($150 license, $100 dyno rental, $200 to tune) but that's for me, everyone else was $500 all day everyday. $700 isn't out of this world but its a lot more than I wanted plus you guys are 8hrs away so you'll have to do something to earn my business. I've seen on the forums you guys advertise $525 as a sale, that'd be worth it I guess if Vince is really as good as I've read. Again I'm coming from 8hrs away, I can look else where if need be.
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- you ask again for a special price for a complete new guy they never seen yet and complain on your 8 hours drive. R/T aren't you friend yet and you still tried to force their hands to lower the price.

- then you mention that 525$ previous sale that was obviously finish a while ago. they could have gave you that special pricing if they knew you more than a know-it-all guy who tune subbies.

- since you mentioned that you are coming from 8 hours away that you can look else where if need be.

their answer was a normal answer to a rude guy and because of your situation that R/T isn't your best solution.



you probably haven't fully read and UNDERSTOOD what R/T replied at the #243 post.

he even spend quite a bit of HIS time to explain some of the big issues you seem to have and still do at this point.



good luck with your modding.


btw I'm sure you will start arguing on me with this but have you seen anybody taking your side since R/T posted ?
anyway....
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Lol really? Again when did I rip on their service? Pretty sure my email complemented Vince's tuning. If they don't want to help me help you guys showing numbers, they can **** themselves.
Actually you did. and didn't on Vince's tuning.
Read back what you said man, before putting more fuel on the fire.

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Scott: 07/16/14 9:51pm
That's fine. I will be ranting about this on the forums though. I can promise at least one person will agree with me though and find a new shop if they had you in mind. Even if its only one person out of a million that's worth it to me as you guys couldn't come off your high horse for $175, you just lost another persons tune money. You guys aren't tuning any better than any other shop but you post STD number to make people think so. Over $700 is a complete rip off! I hope selling tunes at that price works for you since I can guarantee you'd sell more and make more if you were lower in price as it'd bring more people in. As you said, you had a "overwhelming response." You must like not being as busy the rest of the year.
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again, don't fool yourself, we see a ton more STD dyno sheet than SAE.
STD makes the customer happy because of higher reading. im sure they aren't hiding the SAE number.


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How dare you say such a thing. SY knows everything about everything. Now stop what you are doing, apologize and find him a new tuner. ASAP!!! And while you're at it, fan him and feed him grapes. RIGHT NOW!
yeah your right.
im very sorry !!!!!!


GTM might be a best fit for his needs... that's my solution to your nice request.



on a side note sorry to take R/T position I just confirmed the license price with our PRO Tuner emails and went from there. I just get emotional on some bulshit happening ... I hope everybody can forgive me and my mistakes !!
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Sooooooooooo should I have max bore do my TB's? Lol
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I got my hands on 2 TBs and upper manifold. I'll be sending the TBs to Maxbore and exchanging the manifold for Z1's modified one.
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Sooooooooooo should I have max bore do my TB's? Lol
Yes. aszyd just got mine back from being done with the butterfly shaft smoothed out and new flat headed screws. I'll have his OEM TB's tomorrow.

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I have two more Tb's to sell and a lower mani


Edit 7/29. TB's sold, will have a 4th set soon.
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