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Chuck33079 02-07-2014 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2682892)
Bastard beats me to the punch every time...

:tiphat:

jwick 02-07-2014 07:19 AM

I think we need the mods to add a 'beating a dead horse' smiley.

KaienZ34 02-07-2014 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 2682912)
I think we need the mods to add a 'beating a dead horse' smiley.

Don't worry OP will be starting hundreds of duplicate threads about the same old sh1t. Next up "which oil is best" then "do I need an oil cooler" lets not forget my personal favorite "what's better MT or AT?" Go check out the great threads he has already started. :shakes head:

370ZYZFR1 02-07-2014 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by KaienZ34 (Post 2683423)
Don't worry OP will be starting hundreds of duplicate threads about the same old sh1t. Next up "which oil is best" then "do I need an oil cooler" lets not forget my personal favorite "what's better MT or AT?" Go check out the great threads he has already started. :shakes head:

Lol. Thanks Kaien!

I thnk I'm going with the g3.

Was I chuck that had an awesome video on how to install?

NismoZ70 02-07-2014 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 370ZYZFR1 (Post 2683572)
Lol. Thanks Kaien!



I thnk I'm going with the g3.



Was I chuck that had an awesome video on how to install?


Check out the DIY section or do a search. You'll find exactly what you need


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NismoNox 02-07-2014 07:53 PM

Has anyone tried or is there another sub forum about the Nismo Intake? I'm pretty sure AEM makes it

NismoZ70 02-07-2014 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by NismoNox (Post 2684113)
Has anyone tried or is there another sub forum about the Nismo Intake? I'm pretty sure AEM makes it

Yep! Do a search and you'll find out!

luigi90210 02-08-2014 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2682889)
All the modification?
If you have a Dremel you can cut the radiator bracket in...45 seconds...
And no way it makes as high of HP just because it will have turbulent airflow, but it's negligible

could you go into detail about the turbulent airflow? is it because they share the same filter?

370ZYZFR1 02-09-2014 02:46 AM

Ok. So now I will have the following mods. Do I need a tune?

1. CAI Gen3
2. FI cbe
3. Will prob add rhfc

I have read both. No tune and tune. Not too many 'tuners' around here in Iowa.

luigi90210 02-09-2014 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by 370ZYZFR1 (Post 2685272)
Ok. So now I will have the following mods. Do I need a tune?

1. CAI Gen3
2. FI cbe
3. Will prob add rhfc

I have read both. No tune and tune. Not too many 'tuners' around here in Iowa.

no you wont, you can run full bolt ons without a tune, its just recommended to get a tune so you get the most power from those mods

370ZYZFR1 02-09-2014 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by luigi90210 (Post 2685288)
no you wont, you can run full bolt ons without a tune, its just recommended to get a tune so you get the most power from those mods

So the engines' computer adjusts the air and gas correctly? With my motocycle, I can put on a slip on and run with a little pop when decelerating but if I change it to full I have to put a new fuel management system on it and adjust.

And by tune, everyone is referring to a dyno tune and adjustment?

KaienZ34 02-09-2014 08:09 AM

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Attachment 83659 Tuning - Nissan 370Z Forum


"Tune" meaning you would have to buy a software license like UpRev, EcuTek, etc, each cost a few hundred bucks. Then go to a dyno with a person who knows how to use that software. With the bolt-ons you have listed it's not 100% needed but it would help. If you put headers on you should get a tune for sure.

NismoZ70 02-09-2014 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by KaienZ34 (Post 2685417)
Attachment 83659 Tuning - Nissan 370Z Forum


"Tune" meaning you would have to buy a software license like UpRev, EcuTek, etc, each cost a few hundred bucks. Then go to a dyno with a person who knows how to use that software. With the bolt-ons you have listed it's not 100% needed but it would help. If you put headers on you should get a tune for sure.

I've got the Stillen Gen3's and will be adding the FI LTH's and exhaust this summer. Is there any recommended timing on how quickly after having everything installed you should get a tune? I know I need one from the many mentions of this throughout the site as well as your comment above but I didn't know how quickly a tune should take place after installation.

KaienZ34 02-09-2014 02:56 PM

It doesn't have to be done the same day or anything, if you never get a tune it probably wouldn't hurt the car but I wouldn't recommend it. You wouldn't be getting the power you paid for or responsiveness that you get once they fine tune your air fuel ratio.

NismoZ70 02-09-2014 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by KaienZ34 (Post 2685863)
It doesn't have to be done the same day or anything, if you never get a tune it probably wouldn't hurt the car but I wouldn't recommend it. You wouldn't be getting the power you paid for or responsiveness that you get once they fine tune your air fuel ratio.


Awesome thanks! Yeah I figured those were the reasons but I thought I would check. Definitely want to get as much out of it as I can. It's gonna be an expensive summer :)


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370ZYZFR1 02-09-2014 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by NismoZ70 (Post 2685906)
Awesome thanks! Yeah I figured those were the reasons but I thought I would check. Definitely want to get as much out of it as I can. It's gonna be an expensive summer :)


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I would definitely wait until ALL your mods are done. If there is anything you may do or change out I would wait.

NismoZ70 02-09-2014 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 370ZYZFR1 (Post 2686013)
I would definitely wait until ALL your mods are done. If there is anything you may do or change out I would wait.

Yep! That's why I'll be doing it this summer once the FI LTH's and exhaust is on. Already have the a Stillen Gen 3's.

spotlighter 03-27-2014 08:03 PM

Intake
 
Hey everyone!
I just got my first Z (2013 Nismo in Magna Red). I'm looking for the best air intake for the Z. Would like to hear your thoughts? What you chose and why? I'm thinking the Stillen 3.
Thanks.

Jordo! 03-27-2014 08:36 PM

Budget + Ease of installation for decent gains: Cobb (or similar) smooth tubes plus K&N (or other high flow) panel filter.

Money to burn + unconcerned with periodic removing of the front bumper to get a few more ponies up top: Stillen Gen 3.

Un-heat shielded short rams, however, do not seem to perform as well, so those might be passed on unless you intend to construct airboxes for them.

luigi90210 04-01-2014 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 2757023)
Budget + Ease of installation for decent gains: Cobb (or similar) smooth tubes plus K&N (or other high flow) panel filter.

Money to burn + unconcerned with periodic removing of the front bumper to get a few more ponies up top: Stillen Gen 3.

Un-heat shielded short rams, however, do not seem to perform as well, so those might be passed on unless you intend to construct airboxes for them.

please post proof when making claims like this

my short rams intake 8 above ambient when moving at any speed above 25mph

for the most part i think people should buy a CAI, but if one truly wants a SRI or is given one like i was, it doesnt mean its bad and wont perform, heat shielded or not

Jordo! 04-02-2014 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by luigi90210 (Post 2764043)
please post proof when making claims like this

my short rams intake 8 above ambient when moving at any speed above 25mph

for the most part i think people should buy a CAI, but if one truly wants a SRI or is given one like i was, it doesnt mean its bad and wont perform, heat shielded or not

To be fair, I only have clear evidence of the first two claims; the third is admittedly unconfirmed, to the best of my knowledge.

Moreover, it is indeed possible to pick up gains from a higher flowing cone filter that compensate for any losses due to increased ambient heat -- HOWEVER -- it is unclear whether that will be detected on a dyno with the hood up and a large fan blowing anyway.

If you have some form of heat shielding, and the filters are pointing towards the OEM front bumper duct work, you are probably fine, but if they are wide open, with the hood down, you are drawing in air that is significantly hotter.

While moving, they should approach ambient, so fair enough. But every time you sit, the temps are climbing. That's true even with shielding, but the effect is much greater without shielding.

Zteve 04-02-2014 04:20 AM

to be honest, there is no such thing as "best" when it comes to bolt ons only personal opinions and choice. what it boils down to is what you want to spend

SOUTHZZ 04-02-2014 04:35 AM

Ambient,spambient...lol.Bolt on any CAI,you will not feel any difference
when you are driving.If you are concerned about temp,put your thermometer
away and drop in some K&N's in the stock airboxes.

G37Sam 04-02-2014 05:25 AM

Keep your stock boxes. Intakes are not worth the money spent and the pain to clean them especially if they're the cold air types.

DEpointfive0 04-02-2014 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by luigi90210 (Post 2764043)
please post proof when making claims like this

my short rams intake 8 above ambient when moving at any speed above 25mph

for the most part i think people should buy a CAI, but if one truly wants a SRI or is given one like i was, it doesnt mean its bad and wont perform, heat shielded or not

I know you "gained" power with your SRIs.
Did you run at a dyno? I forgot.

If you did, was your hood open? If so, you can stop saying your WAIs make power.

Datalogging several days doesn't equate to much if there is no SOP, especially when trying to prove out that WAIs are beneficial over stock.


There is no reason an intake sitting inside the engine bay makes power over stock boxes (let's say with K&N panel filters so we don't start arguing over flow)
And when I say no reason, I mean NO REASON. The stock boxes pull in outside side through the radiator support. SRIs, ESPECIALLY non shielded ones EXCLUSIVELY pull warm to hot air that has either flowed through the 180 degree radiator and/or has been heated by the engine.

Roddy1 04-02-2014 09:13 AM

K&N drop ins and Post Maf tubes.

Chuck33079 04-02-2014 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2764631)
I know you "gained" power with your SRIs.
Did you run at a dyno? I forgot.

If you did, was your hood open? If so, you can stop saying your WAIs make power.

Datalogging several days doesn't equate to much if there is no SOP, especially when trying to prove out that WAIs are beneficial over stock.


There is no reason an intake sitting inside the engine bay makes power over stock boxes (let's say with K&N panel filters so we don't start arguing over flow)
And when I say no reason, I mean NO REASON. The stock boxes pull in outside side through the radiator support. SRIs, ESPECIALLY non shielded ones EXCLUSIVELY pull warm to hot air that has either flowed through the 180 degree radiator and/or has been heated by the engine.

:iagree:

Short rams on this platform are worse than stock in every measurable way except sound and aesthetics. A hood-closed dyno run with one would most likely show less power than stock. Even if it's free, it's overpriced.

jcasti07 04-02-2014 12:37 PM

Getting back to OP, I paid a little extra for the nismo CAI. Love the powder coated look and there is no cutting involved on install. They also have the air bypass valves that prevent hydro lock if you happen to pick up water. Kit comes with everything you need to replace the washer fluid reservoir. I'm happy with it!

critical 04-02-2014 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2764631)
I know you "gained" power with your SRIs.
Did you run at a dyno? I forgot.

If you did, was your hood open? If so, you can stop saying your WAIs make power.

Datalogging several days doesn't equate to much if there is no SOP, especially when trying to prove out that WAIs are beneficial over stock.


There is no reason an intake sitting inside the engine bay makes power over stock boxes (let's say with K&N panel filters so we don't start arguing over flow)
And when I say no reason, I mean NO REASON. The stock boxes pull in outside side through the radiator support. SRIs, ESPECIALLY non shielded ones EXCLUSIVELY pull warm to hot air that has either flowed through the 180 degree radiator and/or has been heated by the engine.

mike has never been on a dyno. his gains are purely speculative. ebay intakes only serve to demean a 40k dollar car.

jwick 04-02-2014 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by critical (Post 2766325)
mike has never been on a dyno. his gains are purely speculative. ebay intakes only serve to demean a 40k dollar car.

:iagree:

Anyone that has actually worked in the engine bay would know which intakes work and which ones don't

djtranz 04-05-2014 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick911sc (Post 564059)
Yea, what about a plug and play tune? lol

Cobb Accessport with some maps "plug and play"

But if that's the case I personally would leave the stock intakes alone(or if anything put drop ins) and then change the exhaust and cats.



I'm sorry guys this is my first foreign hot rod. Always had modified Mustangs. I feel like an idiot But what is a drop in. I know the formula in Mustangs more fuel more air. Never did a Japanese vehicle. I would assume it's all the same.

Jordo! 04-06-2014 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by djtranz (Post 2770533)
I'm sorry guys this is my first foreign hot rod. Always had modified Mustangs. I feel like an idiot But what is a drop in. I know the formula in Mustangs more fuel more air. Never did a Japanese vehicle. I would assume it's all the same.

A higher flow panel filter (e.g., K&N) that "drops in" the airbox like an OEM panel filter.

SwissCheese 06-11-2014 09:55 PM

Noob question, but do I need to disconnect the battery when putting in Drop-In K&N filters? I wasn't sure if the increased air-flow from the K&N's was enough to need to reset the ECU.

zefaulter 06-11-2014 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SwissCheese (Post 2855622)
Noob question, but do I need to disconnect the battery when putting in Drop-In K&N filters? I wasn't sure if the increased air-flow from the K&N's was enough to need to reset the ECU.

No need AFAIK

UTAMAV 06-11-2014 10:21 PM

Nope.


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hurricanekid 06-30-2014 09:53 PM

Guys sorry i'm a bit new, i'm thinking of installing the stillen gen 3 CAI too, but do they affect me at lower rpms when i floor it from a stop? Driving a 7AT 09 370z.

I'm gonna install the r1 titan powerhouse amuse exhaust soon too, would they be a good combi of any sort? And after both gets installed will i lose a lot of my low end and pick up slow? :(

Sensei Kreese 07-01-2014 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SwissCheese (Post 2855622)
Noob question, but do I need to disconnect the battery when putting in Drop-In K&N filters? I wasn't sure if the increased air-flow from the K&N's was enough to need to reset the ECU.

I swapped out my factory intake to a Takeda CAI long tube and the instructions asked to disconnect the battery. I did not see a purpose for this and I have had no issues, might just be a worst case scenario to avoid lawsuits. Can't see a reason why you would need to mess with the battery to change the air filters.

SwissCheese 07-01-2014 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Sensei Kreese (Post 2880520)
I swapped out my factory intake to a Takeda CAI long tube and the instructions asked to disconnect the battery. I did not see a purpose for this and I have had no issues, might just be a worst case scenario to avoid lawsuits. Can't see a reason why you would need to mess with the battery to change the air filters.

I ended up throwing on the K&N Drop-Ins without doing anything with the battery. Been in for a couple weeks now with no issues (knock on wood).

mt007jb 08-09-2014 07:04 AM

intake questions
 
Has anyone tried the jwt dual pop with the mishimoto silicone hoses? I've got the K&N drop ins now and am thinking of this combo, not sure if they'll work together.

KMO-II 08-19-2014 11:18 AM

Cold air intake
 
Long tube or standard? Which is the best brand that you know of, and what are you currently using. After install did you have any noticeable gains? Also whats average pricing? I've seen from $399 - $750.. Tks for any and all suggestions.


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