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40 to 332 12-04-2013 08:53 AM

R2C Intakes … Looking for Input
 
Anyone familiar with R2C short ram intakes. If so, any comments … strengths/weaknesses? Thanks.

EZT 12-04-2013 09:53 AM

Great short ram intake, easy installation. Probably the best filters on the planet. Ease of access in cleaning them. You can definitely hear the intake. And from what I understand they give some pretty decent gains as well.

jlw2546 12-04-2013 02:37 PM

I ordered one yesterday. There is not much info on the forum about them. I was not looking for a huge HP increase with this mod anyway. I will let the cbe and hfc handle that. It was purchased more for looks and sound.

40 to 332 12-04-2013 03:28 PM

Thanks for the input. I'm looking for an easy install that will allow me to switch back to the stock intakes, if needed. In order of importance: sound ... performance ... looks. They seem to be popular among the G37 folks.

faceglide 12-05-2013 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by EZT (Post 2594167)
Great short ram intake, easy installation. Probably the best filters on the planet. Ease of access in cleaning them. You can definitely hear the intake. And from what I understand they give some pretty decent gains as well.

Easily this. Don't get sucked into the CAI long tube hype. Past 25 mph, all they do is create a longer intake path, more turbulence and they all use oil filters that will gum up fast and require cleaning(and potentially affect MAF sensors).

Short ram filters stay cleaner, longer, enabling a dry filter to do what it does best...FLOW MORE.

I dropped power on a dyno with moderate cfm blowing at the engine bay when i swapped to gen 3's. I sold them(gen 3) and kept my R2Cs until this past week, TT install very soon so didnt need them.

Oh one thing, they are loud as **** IMO.some love it, some hate it. NO CELs, all performance, no BS. Takes 5 mins to clean filters and back to fresh install performance....can't say that about anything else.

Quality is as good as anything else. If I wanted something different I would try HKS racing sunctions....$$$ tho for little(if any) gains. More of a show piece or JDM swag.

faceglide 12-05-2013 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by 40 to 332 (Post 2594816)
Thanks for the input. I'm looking for an easy install that will allow me to switch back to the stock intakes, if needed. In order of importance: sound ... performance ... looks. They seem to be popular among the G37 folks.

Sound 9/10...10=loud, but I think pop chargers + maf tubes are a tad louder, due to that megaphone stack thing going on. These have more of a growl to them, pretty mean.

Performance 10/10....blew gen 3's out of the water on my car.

Looks....9/10 The boxes are oem with rubber seals. But their black nickel finish is super fuxking sexy, not to mention the white filters with black mesh are great looking too. IMO of course.

carlitos_370z 12-05-2013 06:17 AM

faceglide do you know the whp gains with this filters. If you tell me that you preferred this intake between the Gen 3 have to be a great intakes....

Thanks

Chuck33079 12-05-2013 07:11 AM

It seems to have the same IAT issues all short rams have.
http://www.the370z.com/intake-exhaus...installed.html

faceglide 12-05-2013 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by carlitos_370z (Post 2595593)
faceglide do you know the whp gains with this filters. If you tell me that you preferred this intake between the Gen 3 have to be a great intakes....

Thanks

Was a difference of 3 hp and l;ike 20 ft lb torque....imho the difference was moot as different day has different results, weather, ECU adaptations, fuel quality etc, as the runs were months apart, I take it as wash, but I preferred the feel on the R2Cs, as well as the ability to keep them clean. Clean=Power...no one can contest that.


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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2595616)
It seems to have the same IAT issues all short rams have.
http://www.the370z.com/intake-exhaus...installed.html

Absolutely. Everyone who was monitored IATs will know that at idle, is the greatest delta between CAI and Short Ram Intake(SRI), well that difference is nullified by 25mph(this is even sited in the post i believe). 25mph.....I would rather have clean, dry filters 24/7 as this provides a real world benefit vs an ideal setting benefit..

Theres nothing wrong with CAIs, but it is my opinion that clean, dry, free flowing filters will provide greater benefits vs dirty ones. Now if you plan to spend all yourr time pushing the car from 0-25 mph, then CAIs are amazing!:tiphat:

carlitos_370z 12-05-2013 12:26 PM

thanks for the info dude!!! if you know that i preferred the tq more that the whp ;) when you come from an STi thats what you miss more lol!!!

luigi90210 12-07-2013 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by carlitos_370z (Post 2596173)
thanks for the info dude!!! if you know that i preferred the tq more that the whp ;) when you come from an STi thats what you miss more lol!!!

If you want a nice torque adder, test pipes are great if you don't have them yet.

Effen5 12-08-2013 01:48 AM

I've had mine for almost 2 years. The sound isn't as loud as you make think though.

carlitos_370z 12-09-2013 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by luigi90210 (Post 2598721)
If you want a nice torque adder, test pipes are great if you don't have them yet.

GREAT BRO!!! THANKS A LOT FOR THE INFO!!! I DONT HAVE THEM YET... IF YOU CAN RECOMMEND ME ONES ARE GOING TO BE GREAT TOO :tup:

1cleanZ 12-09-2013 11:04 AM

Gen3's are definitely a higher HP as well as TQ gainer over the R2C's. You might not find many reviews here on the370, but coming from the G market, the R2C's were very big about 2 years ago.

There are multiple review threads over on myg37, and in the end, the Gen3's came out on top over and over again over the RC2's. The R2C's are more of a sound maker then anything. They do open up more air to the engine, but without a tune you will actually lose power. My buddy ran a before and after dyno with his RC2's and he lost about 7 peak HP and 4 lbs/tq.

The Gen3's on the other hand gain in every aspect of the map. Midrange, and especially at peak. This isn't necessarily a result of "cold air" as so many people get hyped up on, but its a direct result of how the Gen3's are engineered. They lean out the motor, "tricking" the ECU. Is this safe? Some beg to differ, but no one has ever had any issues with their engines from it, only great gains which get even better with a proper tune.

luigi90210 12-09-2013 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carlitos_370z (Post 2600842)
GREAT BRO!!! THANKS A LOT FOR THE INFO!!! I DONT HAVE THEM YET... IF YOU CAN RECOMMEND ME ONES ARE GOING TO BE GREAT TOO :tup:

lol caps lock XD

anyhow i like the top speed test pipe because its cheap and is a quality piece, megan racing also makes a nice test pipe for around the same price($200)
they will add some rasp though unless you get resonated test pipes

i have them and i love the sound, it really opened up my nismo exhaust's sound

ill make a video when it warms up a bit so you can hear what it sounds like

1cleanZ 12-09-2013 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by luigi90210 (Post 2601520)
lol caps lock XD

anyhow i like the top speed test pipe because its cheap and is a quality piece, megan racing also makes a nice test pipe for around the same price($200)
they will add some rasp though unless you get resonated test pipes

i have them and i love the sound, it really opened up my nismo exhaust's sound

ill make a video when it warms up a bit so you can hear what it sounds like

To piggyback to that, I would highly recommend Fast Intentions Resonated TPs, as well as Resonated HFCs. Both will give you the quality and gains you're looking for. They come with an 8" resonator build right into the downpipe, whether in the TP, or immediately following the 300cell cat of the HFC.

After doing a lot of research of dyno charts and comparisons of HFCs vs TPs, the #'s are right around 1-2 hp higher at the peak for the TPs, but slightly higher in the midrange of the TQ levels of the HFCs, so basically nothing unless you're looking for "bragging rights" on a dyno chart.

IF you're planning to remain NA, I'd recommend HFCs>TPs. Keeps your exhaust sexy sounding with no rasp, and will give you the gains you're looking for.

faceglide 12-09-2013 09:09 PM

Couldn't agree more. A quality HFC(F.I.) will provide a cleaner note, if you like loud and ballsy, RTPs are for you. Power wise is pretty moot. I will say, whole cruising or digging into it, the RTPs do have a bit more of a fun factor with that nasty note coming through.

Or **** it, go TT and get the best of everything, :driving:

Just a note, some exhausts turn to complete *** on test pipes. MY old HKS and ARK GRiPs responded like hell to berk TPs(maybe the Helmholtz dont like TPs|?). MEanwhile my F.I. CF CBE was just amazing with my RTPs.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1cleanZ (Post 2601758)
To piggyback to that, I would highly recommend Fast Intentions Resonated TPs, as well as Resonated HFCs. Both will give you the quality and gains you're looking for. They come with an 8" resonator build right into the downpipe, whether in the TP, or immediately following the 300cell cat of the HFC.

After doing a lot of research of dyno charts and comparisons of HFCs vs TPs, the #'s are right around 1-2 hp higher at the peak for the TPs, but slightly higher in the midrange of the TQ levels of the HFCs, so basically nothing unless you're looking for "bragging rights" on a dyno chart.

IF you're planning to remain NA, I'd recommend HFCs>TPs. Keeps your exhaust sexy sounding with no rasp, and will give you the gains you're looking for.


faceglide 12-09-2013 09:13 PM

I will say, nothing about the stillens disappointed me at all. They were top notch. I just felt I got a lot more out of my R2Cs since I was able to maintain a very routine cleaning schedule on them where the gen3s after 5 months looked like poop(it did have to endure 2 trips to vegas and back which is about 400 miles of dusty cal-nevada desert.

Or in a nutshell, I am not in love with CAIs on a NA build on this car!

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1cleanZ (Post 2601182)
Gen3's are definitely a higher HP as well as TQ gainer over the R2C's. You might not find many reviews here on the370, but coming from the G market, the R2C's were very big about 2 years ago.

There are multiple review threads over on myg37, and in the end, the Gen3's came out on top over and over again over the RC2's. The R2C's are more of a sound maker then anything. They do open up more air to the engine, but without a tune you will actually lose power. My buddy ran a before and after dyno with his RC2's and he lost about 7 peak HP and 4 lbs/tq.

The Gen3's on the other hand gain in every aspect of the map. Midrange, and especially at peak. This isn't necessarily a result of "cold air" as so many people get hyped up on, but its a direct result of how the Gen3's are engineered. They lean out the motor, "tricking" the ECU. Is this safe? Some beg to differ, but no one has ever had any issues with their engines from it, only great gains which get even better with a proper tune.


luigi90210 12-09-2013 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by faceglide (Post 2602164)
Couldn't agree more. A quality HFC(F.I.) will provide a cleaner note, if you like loud and ballsy, RTPs are for you. Power wise is pretty moot. I will say, whole cruising or digging into it, the RTPs do have a bit more of a fun factor with that nasty note coming through.

Or **** it, go TT and get the best of everything, :driving:

Just a note, some exhausts turn to complete *** on test pipes. MY old HKS and ARK GRiPs responded like hell to berk TPs(maybe the Helmholtz dont like TPs|?). MEanwhile my F.I. CF CBE was just amazing with my RTPs.

lol can you explain what happened?

i love the sound of the HKS with non resonated test pipes, i also really like agency power as well with non resonated test pipes

ON-TOPIC
OP, get a mod that you like and dont worry about what others think, SRI vs CAI will always be debated on and on until the end of the world
i think its people arguing for the sake of arguing :P

Tombonombona 12-09-2013 09:39 PM

What a coincidence. I literally just sold my R2C Black Nickel intake like ten minutes ago on here… Loved the intake, better than the G3's in my opinion.

carlitos_370z 12-10-2013 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luigi90210 (Post 2601520)
lol caps lock XD

anyhow i like the top speed test pipe because its cheap and is a quality piece, megan racing also makes a nice test pipe for around the same price($200)
they will add some rasp though unless you get resonated test pipes

i have them and i love the sound, it really opened up my nismo exhaust's sound

ill make a video when it warms up a bit so you can hear what it sounds like

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1cleanZ (Post 2601758)
To piggyback to that, I would highly recommend Fast Intentions Resonated TPs, as well as Resonated HFCs. Both will give you the quality and gains you're looking for. They come with an 8" resonator build right into the downpipe, whether in the TP, or immediately following the 300cell cat of the HFC.

After doing a lot of research of dyno charts and comparisons of HFCs vs TPs, the #'s are right around 1-2 hp higher at the peak for the TPs, but slightly higher in the midrange of the TQ levels of the HFCs, so basically nothing unless you're looking for "bragging rights" on a dyno chart.

IF you're planning to remain NA, I'd recommend HFCs>TPs. Keeps your exhaust sexy sounding with no rasp, and will give you the gains you're looking for.

Thanks a lot for the info guys!!! i really appreciated!! :tup: lets add this to my wish list :stirthepot:


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