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dainedazz 08-26-2009 05:01 PM

and can someone explain to me the pros & cons of Dry Filters vs. Oiled Filters.

jpit 08-26-2009 05:31 PM

Oiled filters use oil to help captured dust and dirt. You need to clean and re-oil them every so often. Apparently, if you use too much oil it can be fed into the intake and coat some of the sensors causing them to misread. Dry filters you can clean with a good shake and some low psi compressed air.

JoeD 08-26-2009 06:56 PM

You forgot to mention that dry filters have a tendency to break apart and get sucked into the engine.

AH370Z 08-26-2009 09:48 PM

I would like to see a dyno sheet that shows below 3000rpm and shows torque too.
As i know with alot of these intakes you actually lose power in the very low rpm due to the initial suck of hot air from engine bay.

Hopefully this is not the case with the R2C due to the shield

kannibul 08-26-2009 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nogoodname (Post 168239)
i'm the only who has it on this forum....lol

the air filters is where it's mainly at. K&N are oiled filters and not everyone wants to clean and re oil....so that's out. r2c design and produce their own air filters....dry ones too.
these air filters are used in the U.S military, so they stand to dust very well and provide good airflow.
R2C is primary an air filter manufacture, they just made a small auto intake division now.

Clean and reoil what, every 50K? paper filters will need to be swapped at least twice in that time.

jpit 08-27-2009 12:15 AM

Here is an air filter test conducted by Bob the Oil Guy. His conclusion is that K&N filters allow more air flow than OEM or foam filters but also don't filter as well. He says that might be important.

Air Filtration Test

dainedazz 08-27-2009 07:19 AM

Quote:

Oiled filters use oil to help captured dust and dirt. You need to clean and re-oil them every so often. Apparently, if you use too much oil it can be fed into the intake and coat some of the sensors causing them to misread. Dry filters you can clean with a good shake and some low psi compressed air.
gotcha!

Quote:

You forgot to mention that dry filters have a tendency to break apart and get sucked into the engine.
is that true?

Shunya 08-27-2009 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dainedazz (Post 172160)
gotcha!



is that true?

I haven't heard of sumthing like that before.

Abdiel 08-27-2009 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Shunya (Post 172167)
I haven't heard of sumthing like that before.

the internets says this could happen if a paper filter gets soaked. R2C is a washable synthetic material filter.

btw, from a random internet search, NASCAR apparently uses dry filters:

K&N Releases Air Filters for NASCAR Truck & Busch Series Racers

"NASCAR rules require air filters in order to race. K&N's new 2-ply cotton un-oiled filters meet NASCAR requirements. "The 2-ply cotton works the same as our 4-ply," said Maier. "It just allows more air to flow."

Endgame 08-27-2009 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AH370Z (Post 171686)
I would like to see a dyno sheet that shows below 3000rpm and shows torque too.
As i know with alot of these intakes you actually lose power in the very low rpm due to the initial suck of hot air from engine bay.

Hopefully this is not the case with the R2C due to the shield

I would also like to see this... I would think that the heat sheilds would act similar to the stock airbox. Thus, you would not be sucking in any hotter air than the stock airbox intake setup.

dyezak 08-28-2009 01:13 PM

FYI on RC2, they have a small division of their company that does EXHAUST filters for the mining industry! Their filters allow for the diesel engines on underground mining equipment to actually emit cleaner air from their exaust than is being sucked in on intake! There was a small 5min deal on this on the Discovery chanel where they were covering mining machines. They said that the mining company chose filtered diesel vehicles over electric for underground mining because they perform two functions, they act as a vehicle to do their main function, and their secondary function was air filtration. Diesel was chosen over gas because of some funky catalitic/amonia injection system that actually caused the exhaust the emit almost 0 CO2 as well (or some crazyness like that).

So RC2 has some good experience in all kinds of filtration.

nogoodname 08-28-2009 01:25 PM

military, mining...and now for cars...... +1

JvKintheUSA 08-28-2009 07:28 PM

Good info - now they have to ship the units...


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