Question about test pipes or HFC for a newbie

markthomas69 · 11-16-2013, 07:29 PM

If I purchase and install either test pipes or high flow cats will I need a tune to avoid a CEL?

ka24king · 11-16-2013, 07:32 PM

Nope at most extended 02 bungs

Don't get a tune till your at the end of your modding or think your gonna take a break from modding for a while

markthomas69 · 11-16-2013, 07:47 PM

That is great news, thank you much!

Marti · 11-21-2013, 11:09 AM

Mark you should be perfectly fine if you just install the HFC/test pipe.

Pretty much mimicking what king said since he hit it right on the head, an O2 spacer should solve the trick and getting a tune after an HFC install while everything else is stock is just a waste of money IMO.

VincentLe · 12-14-2013, 12:45 AM

so is it safe to run a CBE and resonated test pipes without a tune?

MacLean · 12-14-2013, 01:17 AM

It is safe. The ECU will correct itself. If you decide to add something else, then a tune is a must.

DEpointfive0 · 12-14-2013, 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MacLean

It is safe. The ECU will correct itself. If you decide to add something else, then a tune is a must OPTIONAL.

A tune isn't ever necessary unles you go forced induction. Some people (maybe most) will recommend it, but I don't

MacLean · 12-14-2013, 01:52 AM

True and it's all discretionary upon ones taste. You will get more out of your mods if you get a tune. This is assuming your done with adding boltons to your car.

VincentLe · 12-14-2013, 02:02 AM

thank you for your replies, i want to eventually get tuned, but im just slowly adding one thing at a time, and i just wanna make sure i can run these mods for awhile safely.

wouldn't cbe/tp/and cai combined make me run lean/rich? and not safe for the car? just wondering

DEpointfive0 · 12-14-2013, 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VincentLe

thank you for your replies, i want to eventually get tuned, but im just slowly adding one thing at a time, and i just wanna make sure i can run these mods for awhile safely.

wouldn't cbe/tp/and cai combined make me run lean/rich? and not safe for the car? just wondering

I have EVERY, SINGLE bolt on, no tune, car runs fine
If your car is running rich or lean outside factory specs, you'll get a CEL.
And you may run a bit lean, but not that much

VincentLe · 12-14-2013, 02:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

I have EVERY, SINGLE bolt on, no tune, car runs fine
If your car is running rich or lean outside factory specs, you'll get a CEL.
And you may run a bit rich, but not that much

and is only way to fix the issue tuning?

DEpointfive0 · 12-14-2013, 02:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VincentLe

and is only way to fix the issue tuning?

I don't recall stating an issue, lol.
Running a tad rich isn't bad, safer than running lean. And if it ever runs too rich or lean, you'll get a CEL.

Just install your mods and don't worry brother. You'll be ok

VincentLe · 12-14-2013, 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

I don't recall stating an issue, lol.
Running a tad rich isn't bad, safer than running lean. And if it ever runs too rich, you'll get a CEL.

Just install your mods and don't worry brother. You'll be ok

by issue i meant CEL. sorry lol

DEpointfive0 · 12-14-2013, 02:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VincentLe

by issue i meant CEL. sorry lol

Lol, yeah, a tune will fix it, but I don't recall anyone getting a CEL from bolt ons. Usually they forget to install or tighten something
OR they get a CEL for catalyst threshold efficiency, caused by shitty test pipes or HFCs or broken HFCs, that can be fixed by extended bungs or the Z1 antifoulers, which work great

Zensation · 12-14-2013, 02:45 PM

A tune is absolutely not necessary for bolt on's...that being said i noticed a big increase in smoothness at low rpm and increased responsiveness. Overall it made a difference and I was skeptical before doing it. I gained ~30 ft-lbs at around 2300 rpm... which is ~13.3% increase. no big deal as far as max is concerned but believe me it makes a huge difference in drive ability. Ppl alot of times only give heed to "max numbers" well i cant stress enough how how important it is to look across the entire rpm range. Bottom line, if you notice any choppyness and are not satisfied with driveability then yeah do it. If your ride is already smooth and your just looking to show off max numbers don't chances are youll probably wont be at any mind blowing numbers in the 1/4 mile or anything.

11-16-2013, 07:29 PM	#1 (permalink)
markthomas69 Base Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Little Elm, TX Posts: 66 Drives: 2010 370Z Red, auto Rep Power: 13	Question about test pipes or HFC for a newbie If I purchase and install either test pipes or high flow cats will I need a tune to avoid a CEL? __________________ Beluga catback exhaust and Y-Pipe. Sport brakes upgrade. 24 row oil cooler. Battery relocated to the trunk.

11-16-2013, 07:32 PM	#2 (permalink)
ka24king Track Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: texas Posts: 582 Drives: '10 370z 40th annv. Rep Power: 13	Nope at most extended 02 bungs Don't get a tune till your at the end of your modding or think your gonna take a break from modding for a while Marti likes this.

11-16-2013, 07:47 PM	#3 (permalink)
markthomas69 Base Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Little Elm, TX Posts: 66 Drives: 2010 370Z Red, auto Rep Power: 13	That is great news, thank you much! __________________ Beluga catback exhaust and Y-Pipe. Sport brakes upgrade. 24 row oil cooler. Battery relocated to the trunk.

11-21-2013, 11:09 AM	#4 (permalink)
Marti A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Central Florida Posts: 2,090 Drives: TT SC300 Rep Power: 17	Mark you should be perfectly fine if you just install the HFC/test pipe. Pretty much mimicking what king said since he hit it right on the head, an O2 spacer should solve the trick and getting a tune after an HFC install while everything else is stock is just a waste of money IMO. __________________ Marti - Rev Works, Inc https://www.facebook.com/Revworks www.revworksinc.com / marti@revworksinc.com / aim: aimformarti 407-542-7863

12-14-2013, 01:17 AM	#6 (permalink)
MacLean A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Houston Posts: 1,589 Drives: '12 GM Nismo # 0445 Rep Power: 16	It is safe. The ECU will correct itself. If you decide to add something else, then a tune is a must. __________________ l Meisterschaft Full Cat-Back Exhaust l F. I. Resonated High Flow Cats l Stillen Gen 3 l M370 Intake Manifold l UpRev l JWT Clutch & Flywheel l ZSpeed HD CSC l Stillen 19 Row Oil Cooler l ZSpeed Powercoated Under Tray l GTSpec: 6, 4, 2 Point Brace l

12-14-2013, 12:45 AM	#5 (permalink)
VincentLe Base Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Garland Posts: 128 Drives: 09 Nissan 370z Red Rep Power: 12	so is it safe to run a CBE and resonated test pipes without a tune?

12-14-2013, 01:52 AM	#8 (permalink)
MacLean A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Houston Posts: 1,589 Drives: '12 GM Nismo # 0445 Rep Power: 16	True and it's all discretionary upon ones taste. You will get more out of your mods if you get a tune. This is assuming your done with adding boltons to your car. __________________ l Meisterschaft Full Cat-Back Exhaust l F. I. Resonated High Flow Cats l Stillen Gen 3 l M370 Intake Manifold l UpRev l JWT Clutch & Flywheel l ZSpeed HD CSC l Stillen 19 Row Oil Cooler l ZSpeed Powercoated Under Tray l GTSpec: 6, 4, 2 Point Brace l

12-14-2013, 02:02 AM	#9 (permalink)
VincentLe Base Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Garland Posts: 128 Drives: 09 Nissan 370z Red Rep Power: 12	thank you for your replies, i want to eventually get tuned, but im just slowly adding one thing at a time, and i just wanna make sure i can run these mods for awhile safely. wouldn't cbe/tp/and cai combined make me run lean/rich? and not safe for the car? just wondering

12-14-2013, 02:45 PM	#15 (permalink)
Zensation Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Spartanburg, Sc Age: 35 Posts: 483 Drives: 93 rx7 Rep Power: 13	A tune is absolutely not necessary for bolt on's...that being said i noticed a big increase in smoothness at low rpm and increased responsiveness. Overall it made a difference and I was skeptical before doing it. I gained ~30 ft-lbs at around 2300 rpm... which is ~13.3% increase. no big deal as far as max is concerned but believe me it makes a huge difference in drive ability. Ppl alot of times only give heed to "max numbers" well i cant stress enough how how important it is to look across the entire rpm range. Bottom line, if you notice any choppyness and are not satisfied with driveability then yeah do it. If your ride is already smooth and your just looking to show off max numbers don't chances are youll probably wont be at any mind blowing numbers in the 1/4 mile or anything. __________________ 370z NISMO 0675 327 rwhp 280 rwtq - sold. FD RX7 single turbo 508hp - sold. Lexus IS-F 5.0L V8

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