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Originally Posted by MadChemist AFE does have better air filters. Worth the extra money. Proof? The only way it can be better is if it flows more and catches more

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Old 11-01-2013, 06:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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AFE does have better air filters. Worth the extra money.
Proof? The only way it can be better is if it flows more and catches more particles. If it only does one of the two it's not better. It's not a good trade off to flow more and make more power when letting in sand to kill your motor. And if it catches more but makes less power its also not worth it because the K&N catches plenty based off of oil analysis's.
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Proof? The only way it can be better is if it flows more and catches more particles. If it only does one of the two it's not better. It's not a good trade off to flow more and make more power when letting in sand to kill your motor. And if it catches more but makes less power its also not worth it because the K&N catches plenty based off of oil analysis's.
O air restriction, also any particles that get into the cylinder just add to the compression then gets destroyed in the cylinder explosion & what's left goes out through the exhaust.

I think that's Stephen Hawkins quantum mechanics.
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O air restriction, also any particles that get into the cylinder just add to the compression then gets destroyed in the cylinder explosion & what's left goes out through the exhaust.

I think that's Stephen Hawkins quantum mechanics.
The motor cant destroy atoms. Not hot enough or enough pressure. If it did we'd be driving nuclear bombs haha. But seriously, it will break down sand to silica which will not all get out the exhaust and will get trapped in the oil and show up on an oil analysis. All my k&n reports are better then average for filtration elements.
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The motor cant destroy atoms. Not hot enough or enough pressure. If it did we'd be driving nuclear bombs haha. But seriously, it will break down sand to silica which will not all get out the exhaust and will get trapped in the oil and show up on an oil analysis. All my k&n reports are better then average for filtration elements.

This is all true and accurate.

You can absolutely judge the efficacy of a filtration element in an internal combustion engine with oil analysis.
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k&n doesn't publish flow rate or filtering efficiency data i believe. wonder why?
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k&n doesn't publish flow rate or filtering efficiency data i believe. wonder why?
Motordyne doesn't either and wants real people dynoing his stuff. Real people don't lie, manufactures will. Real people show his stuff making more power than others. There's something to be said for a manufacturer that doesn't gloat.
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The K&N oil is petroleum based. aFe oil is not. AFE oil is very different and causes much less problems related to the oil coming off of the filter/getting on the MAF sensor.
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yeah 'real people' to conduct scientific tests on flow rate and efficiency haha

they test. K&N Engineering Air Filtration Efficiency Testing Protocol

where are their results?
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