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megalapagas 07-22-2013 08:25 PM

Titanium Heat Wrapping anyone?
 
Hi guys, just finished wrapping my K&N Short Ram intake pipes with some titanium Heat Wraps...Anyone have experience with these? If not well ill just have to experiment, thx for any future suggestions or opinions :tup:

DEpointfive0 07-22-2013 08:36 PM

I wrapped my G3's
More for shitz n giggles

Mitco39 07-23-2013 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2414309)
I wrapped my G3's
More for shitz n giggles

Its all about the shitz n giggles, #becauseracecar

Chuck33079 07-23-2013 10:58 AM

That's more to keep heat IN. They make a silvery reflective adhesive type to keep heat out. Or gold film if you're a baller. I'm sure the wrap will make a difference, but you're trying to block radiant heat, so something reflective would work better.

synolimit 07-23-2013 11:01 AM

I have some and normal wrap. I need to do my x-pipe. My floor boards are on fire!

Chuck33079 07-23-2013 11:02 AM

Does the Ti stuff smoke like the regular? Every time I've used header wrap, it's looked like my car was on fire for a couple of days. It kinda smells good, though.

Sh0velMan 07-23-2013 11:08 AM

For my actual headers, I went with a newer copper-based version. It "cures" into a pretty rigid layer over them. Definitely cuts the heat transfer down to nearly nothing.

For my intakes, I have a generic header wrap on them plus DEI Reflect-a-gold foil over the outside. I put this on before I was able to get the headers wrapped and it definitely made a difference, but my filters are outside the engine bay. On a short ram setup, I don't see it making much of a difference at all, as the air being ingested is still going to be very hot, it'll just heat from the inside out rather than the other way around. (or both)

Chuck33079 07-23-2013 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Sh0velMan (Post 2415035)
On a short ram setup, I don't see it making much of a difference at all, as the air being ingested is still going to be very hot, it'll just heat from the inside out rather than the other way around. (or both)

This would be my guess too. It'll just pull hot underhood air through a slightly cooler pipe.

Sh0velMan 07-23-2013 11:09 AM

Oh, and my full exhaust is wrapped in an even more generic fiberglass wrap. No metal content at all in it. That seems to work great for that purpose as well, I can touch the wrap after driving hard for a half hour or so, even though the flanges (not wrapped) have gotten hot enough to discolor the stainless steel.

Sh0velMan 07-23-2013 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2415038)
This would be my guess too. It'll just pull hot underhood air through a slightly cooler pipe.

Plus with stock headers and heat shields in place, there's not a lot of radiant or convective heat that is going to be eliminated by this (while in motion).

When stationary, the heat wash from the radiator will make sure you have a piping-hot-air-intake no matter what you do, if your filters are behind the radiator support. Just how it is.

Chuck33079 07-23-2013 11:12 AM

Feeling the heat under the hood after a spirited drive, I can't imagine wanting an intake setup that draws air from underhood. Hell, the stock setup will pull colder air than a short ram.

Sh0velMan 07-23-2013 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2415055)
Feeling the heat under the hood after a spirited drive, I can't imagine wanting an intake setup that draws air from underhood. Hell, the stock setup will pull colder air than a short ram.

Because it draws from in front of the radiator support.

What kinda sucks (ha) is even with that setup, the radiator itself radiates (ha) enough infra-red heat that it'll heat all the surfaces in front of the radiator so that when you're not at speed, it'll cause convection and you'll still suck (ha again) hot air.

The only way to get around all of this is to have the intake draw from a true fresh air source, a big ***, gnarly scoop, and have everything else in the intake tract heavily insulated.

This is how supercars do it, for good reason.

Chuck33079 07-23-2013 11:20 AM

That's why my filters are in the front bumper ahead of the radiator.

MyKindaGuise 07-23-2013 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by megalapagas (Post 2414289)
Hi guys, just finished wrapping my K&N Short Ram intake pipes with some titanium Heat Wraps...Anyone have experience with these? If not well ill just have to experiment, thx for any future suggestions or opinions :tup:

That's more for insulating pipes to keep heat in. Like headers and exhaust manifolds. Go with aerospace gold foil from enjuku racing for intakes and put the TI header wrap on your headers and exhaust. Makes a great difference.

Sh0velMan 07-23-2013 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2415080)
That's why my filters are in the front bumper ahead of the radiator.

That's what I mean. When you aren't at speed, the radiator itself will radiate (again har har) infra-red into the plastic of the bumper, the bumper support, the filters and intake tubes themselves etc and cause the air up front to be just as hot (within reason) as what is behind the support, that heats your intakes up regardless of what insulation you have behind the support.

It's a vicious cycle.


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