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zefaulter 07-05-2013 09:23 AM

Air filter - Fram CA10544 extra guard
 
I haven't started too many threads thanks to search feature but I haven't been able to find enough info on the fram air filter.

Why I wouldn't get K&Ns? I'm not comfortable with maintenance and oiling them. Not interested in the minimal gains really either. Don't want to risk getting dust/debris in my engine or oil on my MAF.

Now, choices:
-OEM filters?
-Fram extra guard CA10544. (too restrictive?)

Any thoughts?

DEpointfive0 07-05-2013 09:31 AM

So throw them away? With 2 filters you should be able to go much further than their 50k estimate

Now, if you don't want oiled, I believe Cosworth makes dry filters

Sh0velMan 07-05-2013 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zefaulter (Post 2392495)
I haven't started too many threads thanks to search feature but I haven't been able to find enough info on the fram air filter.

Why I wouldn't get K&Ns? I'm not comfortable with maintenance and oiling them. Not interested in the minimal gains really either. Don't want to risk getting dusk/debris in my engine or oil on my MAF.

Now, choices:
-OEM filters?
-Fram extra guard CA10544. (too restrictive?)

Any thoughts?



K&N aren't "minimal gains" just so you know.

9WHP, Dyno proven.

Maintenance is minimal, you can go 50K miles at least without messing with them.

The cosworth filters reduced power in pretty much every test they've been in.

zefaulter 07-05-2013 10:36 AM

9WHP without a tune? I know aFe has dry filters as well but not sure if they're good

Sh0velMan 07-05-2013 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zefaulter (Post 2392609)
9WHP without a tune? I know aFe has dry filters as well but not sure if they're good

9WHP without a tune. I did a pull, swapped them, did another pull, swapped them back, did another.

Difference was exactly 9WHP both times.



Others have done similar tests and the results are measurable.

speedfreek 07-05-2013 10:48 AM

I am running the aFe Pro Dry S filters. Id be willing to bet they get similar gains as K&N. Seeing as how the Stillen G3 and Takeda Stage 2 CAI stack up and each run K&N and aFe respectively.

DEpointfive0 07-05-2013 11:46 AM

As much as I know ShOvelman has like 200 dyno runs under his belt, I just don't buy 9WHP.
I'd need 3+ consecutive pulls, then a swap, then 4+ pulls (one more than the first time to really get the car hot)

zefaulter 07-05-2013 11:55 AM

I don't know if the ECU can update itself that fast either. It sounds too good to be true

Sh0velMan 07-05-2013 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zefaulter (Post 2392738)
I don't know if the ECU can update itself that fast either. It sounds too good to be true

It doesn't need to adjust for anything, it's just a change in air resistance, no resonance or piping diameter changes at all.

And Andrew, you should just trust me on this one, we did lots of pulls with and without. I could probably get the dyno sheets if I went and dug around on the dyno PC...but I probably won't bother. ;)

zefaulter 07-05-2013 02:04 PM

Fine, I'm convinced. I just need to get new filters :D
Is the oiling application included when you get filters?

Sh0velMan 07-05-2013 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zefaulter (Post 2392928)
Fine, I'm convinced. I just need to get new filters :D
Is the oiling application included when you get filters?

They come ready to rock. You get instructions with the "recharge kit" when you need it, but I'd plan on at least 30-40K before you even think about it.

zefaulter 07-05-2013 02:56 PM

Awesome! Thanks man. Kinda feel bad this turned into another k&n thread lol

6MT 07-05-2013 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zefaulter (Post 2392495)
I haven't started too many threads thanks to search feature but I haven't been able to find enough info on the fram air filter.

Why I wouldn't get K&Ns? I'm not comfortable with maintenance and oiling them. Not interested in the minimal gains really either. Don't want to risk getting dust/debris in my engine or oil on my MAF.

Now, choices:
-OEM filters?
-Fram extra guard CA10544. (too restrictive?)

Any thoughts?

Just how do you figure that Fram filters are "restrictive"? A little documentation to back up your claim please......:ugh2:

chrischhorn 07-05-2013 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sh0velMan (Post 2392946)
They come ready to rock. You get instructions with the "recharge kit" when you need it, but I'd plan on at least 30-40K before you even think about it.

Not to mention recharging it takes only about an hour........50 mins of it being it drying after the clean.....

Sh0velMan 07-05-2013 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrischhorn (Post 2393069)
Not to mention recharging it takes only about an hour........50 mins of it being it drying after the clean.....

yup yup.

(I used to use a hair drier on mine... impatient)


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