Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2335388)

^^OP, please don't argue with SS_Firehawk, he fights for your freedom and is currently sitting in god damn Afganistan...
He wins

Originally Posted by chrischhorn (Post 2335396)

He's burning down DEpointfive0's family tree FOR US! Or is his in Pakistan...... WTH are you again?

Originally Posted by chrischhorn (Post 2335396)

He's burning down DEpointfive0's family tree FOR US! Or is his in Pakistan...... WTH are you again?

Originally Posted by Voice59 (Post 2335740)

This might be a stupid question/statement. But i just got rid of my stillen exhaust and installed the MXP true dual exhaust on it. It wasn't a huge change in sound but one that I noticed and liked. My only question is...is a true dual better or worse?

Originally Posted by DarkJak (Post 2335426)

It may not translate to your application fully, but from what I've heard about the Motordyne XYZ pipe, the resonator option is slightly quieter than the HFC option and doesn't add any restriction vs a straight pipe. So removing the resonator and adding an HFC section probably won't make it any quieter than it already is if loudness is your main concern, unless you go for something really high cell count, which would be pretty restrictive.
Another possibility is getting a resonated Y-pipe. Off the top of my head, I know Motordyne and Litespeed both offer them. Motordyne's section can be switched for straight piped or HFC, and Litespeed offers in both SS and Ti.

Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk (Post 2335132)

Buy a Motordyne Y pipe and get their HFC

Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk (Post 2335377)

Your OP is retarded then. Reread what you wrote. I shouldn't even help your rude @ss. Buy the Lightspeed resonated Y pipe or again the Motordyne Y pipe, but get the resonator.

For your understanding:
Cat= catalytic converter
HFC= high flow catalytic converter
my original MD Y pipe and HFC recommendation= 3" 200 cell high flow cat.

a cat and HFC do the same exact thing, but one flows better than the other.

Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk (Post 2335377)

Your OP is retarded then. Reread what you wrote. I shouldn't even help your rude @ss. Buy the Lightspeed resonated Y pipe or again the Motordyne Y pipe, but get the resonator.

For your understanding:
Cat= catalytic converter
HFC= high flow catalytic converter
my original MD Y pipe and HFC recommendation= 3" 200 cell high flow cat.

a cat and HFC do the same exact thing, but one flows better than the other.

Originally Posted by gomer_110 (Post 2336745)

Simple answer is cats need heat to work. The closer to the engine the more effective they will be. Since all you care about is sound and not emissions putting it in the mid-pipe should still yield the desired effect.

Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 2336731)

I did, see nothing wrong. Don't want a cat unless i need it for sound and when im talking about cats i think people get the point Cupcake since this is a performance forum. not to mention i said 100-200-300 cell cat. you know any stock cats running that big?! If I do need one will it do anything in the mid pipe? Pretty simple.

Easy Chief. You can't tell what my face was like, my demeanor or the context of me asking if you read my OP. so pull your head out of your *** tough guy. I could care less where you're at right now. And thanks for the kindergarten lessen for someone who knows more about cars than I bet you do.

Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk (Post 2336769)

If you are getting cats to adjust sound but want maximum performance, you are going about it wrong. I happen to run a cat in my midpipe. It works just fine. I have pictures videos, dyno sheets, everything you were asking. I did not run it to make my exhaust quieter. I ran it because I didn't want the fumes. Not only that, it is connected to a 70mm Y pipe with an exhaust that has a similar db rating. To make this even more interesting, I run long tubes, matching the db and rasp TP's give. Holy shat, I know WTF I'm talking about! Miracle! 70mm is 2.75", there are no cats on the market that directly bolt on in that size. However there are at 3". It still works just fine. To quantify my understanding to your issue, I also bought a resonator I can swap out with the HFC. All is takes is a V clamp and two bolts. Now all of a sudden, I can change how loud the car is.

If you can get over yourself and look at my journal, I have links on the top of my page. And I was actually trying to help you out. Let me know when you come back down to earth. I didn't brag about being where I am or doing what I do. I poked fun at it after the fact. My rank is not a Chief and you haven't been on your knees long enough to call me cupcake. Hopefully you actually find what the hell your looking for. I've been there and done that.

Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 2337739)

I am over myself. All I did was ask you a question because you told me something that was irrelevant. I know what Y pipe I want (did want) and if I need a cat ill buy one. Therefore the buy two motordyne comment wasn't needed so I asked if you read the OP. no need to call me an ***.

Lmao how am I going about it the wrong way if like you said adding your resonator back in will make your car louder?? Seems like I'm going about it the best way. And when did I say you didn't have knowledge? Miracle! I didn't. But you must not have a great knowledge at reading since you told me two things I simply said weren't going to happen. That's all, nothing more, nothing less. And who said I would buy something that bolts in? I make my own stuff and I can see many hfc I can buy and weld in for the size I'd need.

Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 2336731)

And thanks for the kindergarten lessen for someone who knows more about cars than I bet you do.

Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 2334763)

Ok first I couldn't find this answer and frankly never read or heard anyone say anything about it ever so I'm asking now.

I like fast intentions stuff because of the quality of non restricted flow they have when they sand down the welds on the inside!! Big plus to me. But their stuff is expensive. To keep down on the cost I decided to go with their resonated test pipes.(No problem here, RTP's, you removed the stock cats) Also I'm all about weight and power so no HFC's for me even if they were the same price. So from my understanding, you do not want cats, which you state here)

Now I don't think Top Speeds quality on the inside will be the same but because they're so cheap and people here like them and they fit good and have good power I'm going with the single 70mm CBE with a 12" resonator in the mid section and the 8" resonator in the middle above the two mufflers in the back. Plus their Y pipe too.(You decided on the TS exhaust. Yes, I know it comes with a Y pipe. The Y pipe still maintains the stock mounting points)

So ill have two resonators in the TP's, one in the mid pipe and one coming off the split for the mufflers. I have a feeling this might still be really loud so time for my question!!You think it's too loud, most of us think now "He doesn't want cats, it's too loud, okay... Resonator then is a good recommendation

Where can you install a catalitic converter????( WTF?!? Why is OP asking about the part he says he doesn't want?) I assume since most are installed at the motor they need heat to work! But I don't care if they "work." I care that if I want to install just 1 down the road to cut down on loudness and cost ill just add a 70mm 100-200-300 cell cat in the mid pipe like before or after the mid pipes 12" resonator. (So you understand a bit about cats... Okay, then maybe he wants it for another reason outside of using it as a muffler? I'll recommend the easiest way to implement a cat in the midpipe without hacking up the exhaust. He can sell the current Y pipe and get some cash back.)

What do you all think?

Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 2335328)

I don't want hfc's. did you read my OP?

Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk (Post 2337986)

Actually, the resonator will make it quieter. Yes a HFC/cat will quiet things down compared to an open pipe, but muffler is nowhere in the description. You implied my ignorance on your followup post Now your just insulting me. Let me break down where the confusion is. Black and red is you with red being the sentence in question, blue is me interpreting that sentence.



Recommend Motordyne Y pipe with an optional high flow cat. OP now does not have to rip apart his new exhaust and if it not what he wanted, he can:
1: Sell the MD Y pipe and HFC
2: Try the resonator option (or make your own to bolt right in because you clam to fab your own stuff)
3: Do the straight pipe where the HFC would be instead if it is not what you wanted.
4: I even mentioned the Litespeed Y pipe and resonator as well

Then another member damn near posted my recommendations verbatim. Man, we both must have misread your first post... Doubtful.



Now this is insulting. Now you question my intelligence on the matter. This in turn led me to believe you are being an @ss. So I tell you... And then give you a followup option, and explaining that your first post is retarded then because the info does not make sense. Maybe I should have said "confusing" instead of retarded. You get butt hurt and proclaim your OP is perfectly fine. You then puff your chest and insist I read it wrong, then list Cell densities... because this is a "performance" forum?!?! How long have you been reading here? People ask questions about stock cats and high flow cats ALL THE TIME. FYI, this is a tech area within a Z forum, not "performance forum".

So after all this, I continue to assist, I spent 3 months planning my first batch of mods while I was away from home the first time. I measured inner and outer diameters, I looked at headers, I worried about rasp, I worried about fitment. I went through it already. Why watch some other dude go through the same $hit when I can help? So I again shrugged off your remarks and explained I've gone through this. Yeah I was being facetious and snide; After calling me Chief and Cupcake, then implying I have elementary knowledge on the subject, I think it was in line with our exchange.

I'm done trying to help you. In reality, your exhaust will look so busted and janky after you hack it to pieces, it will make for entertainment in the future, I'll look forward to it. I hope you dedicate post 50 to me too :tiphat: