Nissan 370Z Forum  

Rasp (very common I know)

This issue had been discussed before but not in the direction (I dont think) I'm going to ask it.. I currently have the F.I 12" res system with their HFC's.

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Nissan 370Z Tech Area > Engine & Drivetrain > Intake/Exhaust


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-11-2013, 06:52 PM   #1 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Chemy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 109
Drives: Nismo 370Z, Pearl
Rep Power: 13
Chemy is on a distinguished road
Default Rasp (very common I know), How to reduce it?

This issue had been discussed before but not in the direction (I dont think) I'm going to ask it.. I currently have the F.I 12" res system with their HFC's. I do not have any intakes on the car as I will be going FI in the next 6 months with the fast intentions kit.

As many of you know, when I let off the gas and let the car slow down on its own or coast, I hear a hissssssss that will last anywhere from about 3500 rpm down to about 2000 rpm. It is faily loud.. I want to try and keep the exhaust the way it sounds now, it has the perfect volumn for me. Would test pipes make it worse or better? should I put the stock cats back on? I dont want to lose any power if I dont have to but the hiss bothers me.. sounds like an exhaust leak but its not.

Any thoughts on this please?

Thanks in advance!
__________________
2012 Nismo, PW #512. FI CBE SS w/12" Res, Stillen g3's, UpRev, Kenwood 9990HD, Focal speakers and tweeters, Wicked Cas corner box with JL 10" w6, 35% ceramic tint, full clear bra.

Last edited by Chemy; 04-11-2013 at 07:06 PM.
Chemy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2013, 07:14 PM   #2 (permalink)
Premium Member Bitches
 
DEpointfive0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: SoCal
Posts: 14,824
Drives: a lot
Rep Power: 17151
DEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Test pipes will be worse, you need to go to stock cats for 0 hiss and 0 drone... You WILL lost HP.

(Yeah you can go Art test pipes or resonated HFCs, but you'll still have SOME hiss
__________________
Do YOU want to know what/where I got my username from?
( Click to show/hide )
DEpointfive0 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2013, 08:13 PM   #3 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: nyc/nj
Posts: 384
Drives: 2012 370z 7At
Rep Power: 14
ts-c63 is on a distinguished road
Default

i feel that if you are goin FI the turbos will act like a muffler and get rid of some of the hissing..
ts-c63 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2013, 08:24 PM   #4 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Jordo!'s Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: nirvana
Posts: 6,394
Drives: 2023 NATM
Rep Power: 418
Jordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Resonated TP's won't hiss or rasp.

Generally, going to a wider diameter piping over stock seems to cause hissing -- especially changing the Y pipe.

That said, if you are definitely getting a turbo kit installed, I'd wait until that is done and tuned before changing anything else.
__________________
Enjoy it. Destroy it.
Jordo! is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2013, 09:49 PM   #5 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
roplusbee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Killeen, TX
Posts: 2,360
Drives: 2007 350Z NISMO
Rep Power: 22
roplusbee has a reputation beyond reputeroplusbee has a reputation beyond reputeroplusbee has a reputation beyond reputeroplusbee has a reputation beyond reputeroplusbee has a reputation beyond reputeroplusbee has a reputation beyond reputeroplusbee has a reputation beyond reputeroplusbee has a reputation beyond reputeroplusbee has a reputation beyond reputeroplusbee has a reputation beyond reputeroplusbee has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to roplusbee Send a message via Yahoo to roplusbee
Default

I have the hiss as well. Greddy 20G TT Kit w/ F.I. TT-TDX. It doesn't bother me much, but I keep thinking that I have an exhaust leak (then I laugh it off). I will be experimenting with a "custom" with F.I. first. If that doesn't work, I am going to try something off the wall w/ AAM. I really love the F.I. exhaust though. There is nothing out there that delivers the same performance AND sound.
__________________
2007 350Z NISMO #0618: Zerolift | UPREV | F.I. | Greddy | Competition Clutch | Injector Dynamics | Aeromotive | Pioneer | JL
roplusbee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2013, 09:50 PM   #6 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Chemy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 109
Drives: Nismo 370Z, Pearl
Rep Power: 13
Chemy is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jordo! View Post
Resonated TP's won't hiss or rasp.

Generally, going to a wider diameter piping over stock seems to cause hissing -- especially changing the Y pipe.

That said, if you are definitely getting a turbo kit installed, I'd wait until that is done and tuned before changing anything else.
Resonated test pipes sound like a great idea.
Will my exhaust be louder on the outside?? I don't really
Want it any louder. I would love to cut down on the drone
Too.

Thanks
__________________
2012 Nismo, PW #512. FI CBE SS w/12" Res, Stillen g3's, UpRev, Kenwood 9990HD, Focal speakers and tweeters, Wicked Cas corner box with JL 10" w6, 35% ceramic tint, full clear bra.
Chemy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2013, 10:49 PM   #7 (permalink)
Track Member
 
Mandingo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Dallas
Posts: 625
Drives: '10 370z 6spd
Rep Power: 3371
Mandingo has a reputation beyond reputeMandingo has a reputation beyond reputeMandingo has a reputation beyond reputeMandingo has a reputation beyond reputeMandingo has a reputation beyond reputeMandingo has a reputation beyond reputeMandingo has a reputation beyond reputeMandingo has a reputation beyond reputeMandingo has a reputation beyond reputeMandingo has a reputation beyond reputeMandingo has a reputation beyond repute
Default

You'll still have hiss with ART pipes/resonated test pipes. Depending on how the pipes behave with your other exhaust components, it should be lessened a bit.
__________________
some mods
Mandingo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2013, 01:15 AM   #8 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Jordo!'s Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: nirvana
Posts: 6,394
Drives: 2023 NATM
Rep Power: 418
Jordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chemy View Post
Resonated test pipes sound like a great idea.
Will my exhaust be louder on the outside?? I don't really
Want it any louder. I would love to cut down on the drone
Too.

Thanks
I had a set of CNT resonated test pipes and there was zero hiss or rasp. Wasn't any louder, no drone.

EDIT: No louder compared to non-resonated TP's, but any TP's will be louder than HFC's or stock cats.

But... that was with Nismo S-tune Y pipe. I tried switching to OBX and it made an incredibly loud hiss -- went back to original Y pipe.

If you have the OEM Y pipe, resonated TP's may just do the trick.
__________________
Enjoy it. Destroy it.

Last edited by Jordo!; 04-12-2013 at 11:30 AM.
Jordo! is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2013, 01:34 AM   #9 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
NickTurnon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Scottsdale
Age: 33
Posts: 1,636
Drives: 09 BS 7AT 370z
Rep Power: 18
NickTurnon has much to be proud ofNickTurnon has much to be proud ofNickTurnon has much to be proud ofNickTurnon has much to be proud ofNickTurnon has much to be proud ofNickTurnon has much to be proud ofNickTurnon has much to be proud ofNickTurnon has much to be proud of
Send a message via Skype™ to NickTurnon
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chemy View Post
Resonated test pipes sound like a great idea.
Will my exhaust be louder on the outside?? I don't really
Want it any louder. I would love to cut down on the drone
Too.

Thanks
Even resonated test pipes are loud with varied exhaust setups.
HFCs are probably your best choice. Less sound then Test pipes but you still get more HP over stock cats. & just a little less then test pipes.

Another option is to just add a set of resonators ($100) to get rid of your drone.
__________________
2009 Brilliant Silver BASE 7AT | TEIN S-Tech Springs | K&N Drop Ins & z1 Maf Tubes | AAM S-Line Short Tails | 5% Tint | 20MM Spacers | Sport Spoiler NickTurnon's 370z Build
NickTurnon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2013, 09:11 AM   #10 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Chemy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 109
Drives: Nismo 370Z, Pearl
Rep Power: 13
Chemy is on a distinguished road
Default

When I got my HFC's, I got non resonated ones. I'm wondering if resonated HFCs would be much better at rasp or drone? I think it would some but not much or enough.

How would I add resonators? Muffler shop or something? I really don't want to cut the exhaust at all.
__________________
2012 Nismo, PW #512. FI CBE SS w/12" Res, Stillen g3's, UpRev, Kenwood 9990HD, Focal speakers and tweeters, Wicked Cas corner box with JL 10" w6, 35% ceramic tint, full clear bra.
Chemy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2013, 09:14 AM   #11 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
1cleanZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Twin Cities, MN
Posts: 1,132
Drives: '09 PW Nismo
Rep Power: 20
1cleanZ has a reputation beyond repute1cleanZ has a reputation beyond repute1cleanZ has a reputation beyond repute1cleanZ has a reputation beyond repute1cleanZ has a reputation beyond repute1cleanZ has a reputation beyond repute1cleanZ has a reputation beyond repute1cleanZ has a reputation beyond repute1cleanZ has a reputation beyond repute1cleanZ has a reputation beyond repute1cleanZ has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chemy View Post
Resonated test pipes sound like a great idea.
Will my exhaust be louder on the outside?? I don't really
Want it any louder. I would love to cut down on the drone
Too.

Thanks
Yes 100% test pipes will be louder over HFCs, but you'll also gain a few HP. FI HFCs you have everything running through a 300 cell cat...where with a test pipe, its running straiiiiight through. There's nothing resisting it at all.

Resonators have nothing to do with performance, only sound. They won't take away HP, but will help avoid rasp and drone.
__________________
2009 PW Nismo #0021 -My Built Progress >>1cleanG to 1cleanZ<<
Team NextLevel
1cleanZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2013, 10:11 AM   #12 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
NickTurnon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Scottsdale
Age: 33
Posts: 1,636
Drives: 09 BS 7AT 370z
Rep Power: 18
NickTurnon has much to be proud ofNickTurnon has much to be proud ofNickTurnon has much to be proud ofNickTurnon has much to be proud ofNickTurnon has much to be proud ofNickTurnon has much to be proud ofNickTurnon has much to be proud ofNickTurnon has much to be proud of
Send a message via Skype™ to NickTurnon
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chemy View Post
When I got my HFC's, I got non resonated ones. I'm wondering if resonated HFCs would be much better at rasp or drone? I think it would some but not much or enough.

How would I add resonators? Muffler shop or something? I really don't want to cut the exhaust at all.
You can order resonators online or just go to a decent shop to get them welded on your existing exhaust. It would make it more of a custom build but the resonators are only about 1 foot or 1 & 1/2.

But thats if you really want to get rid of the drone. If you decide that it still is bothering you, you might want to consider just some GTM Mat or something to insulate the inside of the car better. It works wonders...
__________________
2009 Brilliant Silver BASE 7AT | TEIN S-Tech Springs | K&N Drop Ins & z1 Maf Tubes | AAM S-Line Short Tails | 5% Tint | 20MM Spacers | Sport Spoiler NickTurnon's 370z Build
NickTurnon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2013, 10:19 AM   #13 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 2,676
Drives: Nissan 370Z
Rep Power: 18
Motion Lab is on a distinguished road
Default

We just finished up a GTM resonated test pipe and Berk tech catback set-up on a Nismo Stillen supercharged nismo. I havent noticed any hiss or rasp, it actually is the best sounding set-up I have heard to date.

Thanks,
Alex Goodwin
AlexG@motionlabtuning.com
Motion Lab is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2013, 10:29 AM   #14 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
NickTurnon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Scottsdale
Age: 33
Posts: 1,636
Drives: 09 BS 7AT 370z
Rep Power: 18
NickTurnon has much to be proud ofNickTurnon has much to be proud ofNickTurnon has much to be proud ofNickTurnon has much to be proud ofNickTurnon has much to be proud ofNickTurnon has much to be proud ofNickTurnon has much to be proud ofNickTurnon has much to be proud of
Send a message via Skype™ to NickTurnon
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Motion Lab View Post
We just finished up a GTM resonated test pipe and Berk tech catback set-up on a Nismo Stillen supercharged nismo. I havent noticed any hiss or rasp, it actually is the best sounding set-up I have heard to date.

Thanks,
Alex Goodwin
AlexG@motionlabtuning.com
That is because the BERK catback is quiet and sounds almost stock.

OP has the fast intentions 12" exhaust. Doubt he will shell out another $1k just for another exhaust.
__________________
2009 Brilliant Silver BASE 7AT | TEIN S-Tech Springs | K&N Drop Ins & z1 Maf Tubes | AAM S-Line Short Tails | 5% Tint | 20MM Spacers | Sport Spoiler NickTurnon's 370z Build
NickTurnon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2013, 02:57 PM   #15 (permalink)
Track Member
 
Mandingo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Dallas
Posts: 625
Drives: '10 370z 6spd
Rep Power: 3371
Mandingo has a reputation beyond reputeMandingo has a reputation beyond reputeMandingo has a reputation beyond reputeMandingo has a reputation beyond reputeMandingo has a reputation beyond reputeMandingo has a reputation beyond reputeMandingo has a reputation beyond reputeMandingo has a reputation beyond reputeMandingo has a reputation beyond reputeMandingo has a reputation beyond reputeMandingo has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by NickTurnon View Post
That is because the BERK catback is quiet and sounds almost stock.

OP has the fast intentions 12" exhaust. Doubt he will shell out another $1k just for another exhaust.
Something must be wrong with mine if it was supposed to sound almost stock
__________________
some mods
Mandingo is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Is a juddery clutch common? BrianMSmith Engine & Drivetrain 71 08-17-2015 11:34 AM
370z common problems pyrrhus17 Nissan 370Z General Discussions 48 07-03-2014 04:52 PM
Question about common problems Glambutang Nissan 370Z General Discussions 30 02-06-2013 09:19 PM
is it common to?? Shimmy Nissan 370Z Warranty / Scheduled Maintenance / Servicing / Repairs 3 12-28-2011 02:08 PM
10 Common Medical Myths frost The Lounge (Off Topic) 8 07-25-2009 02:52 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:18 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2