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bmarcinczyk14 03-07-2013 08:47 AM

To go carbon fiber...or to not!! This is the question
 
I already have my order with Tony at fast intentions for the stainless steal 18in. CBE and resonated test pipes. I'm now on the fence with whether I want to go carbon fiber mufflers instead. I know it mostly come down to personal preference, but I can't really find any pictures with the carbon fiber on my brilliant silver color. I can picture it in my head and I think it will go will with my light silver color but it's hard to tell if I'll like it better than the stainless steal. What's everyones opinion on the two finishes. Can someone convince me to go with one over the other?

FPenvy 03-07-2013 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by bmarcinczyk14 (Post 2200796)
I already have my order with Tony at fast intentions for the stainless steal 18in. CBE and resonated test pipes. I'm now on the fence with whether I want to go carbon fiber mufflers instead. I know it mostly come down to personal preference, but I can't really find any pictures with the carbon fiber on my brilliant silver color. I can picture it in my head and I think it will go will with my light silver color but it's hard to tell if I'll like it better than the stainless steal. What's everyones opinion on the two finishes. Can someone convince me to go with one over the other?

go CF. the sound in my opinion is much better. that also falls on you as well. SS is deeper and CF is more exotic. also the CF looks amazing as well no matter what color Z you have.

bdavis89 03-07-2013 09:01 AM

Check out Kenchan's albums. He's got a silver with some CF accents, and the CF looks great with that color!

Felix 808 03-07-2013 09:45 AM

I like my CF, it's a lot more stealth than the bling of SS & it has IMO a better sound. The trade off is they will not take an impact like the SS, so driver attenion is needed at times. ;)

YMMV

bmarcinczyk14 03-07-2013 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Felix 808 (Post 2200875)
I like my CF, it's a lot more stealth than the bling of SS & it has IMO a better sound. The trade off is they will not take an impact like the SS, so driver attenion is needed at times. ;)

YMMV

Have you heard both side by side with the same setups? I'm not too worried about the durability, I talked to their new guy Blake over at Fast Intentions yesterday and he said durability wise the carbon fiber will last just as long.

FPenvy 03-07-2013 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Felix 808 (Post 2200875)
I like my CF, it's a lot more stealth than the bling of SS & it has IMO a better sound. The trade off is they will not take an impact like the SS, so driver attenion is needed at times. ;)

YMMV

if you're not lowered it isnt a problem. i've had mine on for about 16k miles and never hit them once. only imperfection in mine is a small nick on the front edge of the Cf where a rock must have grazed it.

bmarcinczyk14 03-07-2013 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 2200882)
if you're not lowered it isnt a problem. i've had mine on for about 16k miles and never hit them once. only imperfection in mine is a small nick on the front edge of the Cf where a rock must have grazed it.

I'll be lowered on swift's by the time the exhaust will go on the car.

FPenvy 03-07-2013 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by bmarcinczyk14 (Post 2201043)
I'll be lowered on swift's by the time the exhaust will go on the car.

maybe have to be a bit careful then.

Sales@F.I. Inc. 03-07-2013 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by bmarcinczyk14 (Post 2201043)
I'll be lowered on swift's by the time the exhaust will go on the car.

It was great talking to you yesterday! You shouldn't be to bad with the swift lowering springs, its a fairly mild drop. I have heard both side by side and FPenvy explained it very well. The CF is slightly higher pitched (not ricey) giving the car a more exotic sound. I am partial to the CF muffler look but I love carbon! Please let me know if you decide to switch to the CF so we can update your invoice. I am confident either way you will love your exhaust! If there is anything else I can do for you please do not hesitate to ask!

Thanks, Blake

dP3NGU1N 03-07-2013 12:19 PM

I've read a few threads where people have cracked their CF muffler. I'd go with SS just for peace of mind. Like others have mentioned, if you go CF you need to be careful.

Sales@F.I. Inc. 03-07-2013 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by dP3NGU1N (Post 2201220)
I've read a few threads where people have cracked their CF muffler. I'd go with SS just for peace of mind. Like others have mentioned, if you go CF you need to be careful.

There is no reason to say you do not need to be just as careful with the SS and a lowered car. Honestly I cant see the CF being any less durable. If you scrape either one of the can options, you have to expect damage. With the V2 muffler style it seems like most people have no issues as the lowers part of the mufflers sit pretty much inline with the rear axle/tires. I will double check with Tony to make sure I am not missing something about the CF mufflers...

FPenvy 03-07-2013 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by dP3NGU1N (Post 2201220)
I've read a few threads where people have cracked their CF muffler. I'd go with SS just for peace of mind. Like others have mentioned, if you go CF you need to be careful.

i have some of the most miles on a CF exhaust and mine are perfect. never had a problem yet. i also do not drive mine in winter i dont know if any of the cracked ones did or not.

FPenvy 03-07-2013 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Blake@F.I. Inc. (Post 2201188)
It was great talking to you yesterday! You shouldn't be to bad with the swift lowering springs, its a fairly mild drop. I have heard both side by side and FPenvy explained it very well. The CF is slightly higher pitched (not ricey) giving the car a more exotic sound. I am partial to the CF muffler look but I love carbon! Please let me know if you decide to switch to the CF so we can update your invoice. I am confident either way you will love your exhaust! If there is anything else I can do for you please do not hesitate to ask!

Thanks, Blake

i mean i've been in the FI CBE thread for over a year doing your job :tiphat:

:bowrofl::hello:

Sales@F.I. Inc. 03-07-2013 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 2201262)
i mean i've been in the FI CBE thread for over a year doing your job :tiphat:

:bowrofl::hello:

:rofl2: :icon17: hey easy now! :tup:

FPenvy 03-07-2013 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Blake@F.I. Inc. (Post 2201329)
:rofl2: :icon17: hey easy now! :tup:

just sayin :tiphat:


....and for free :bowrofl:

Sales@F.I. Inc. 03-07-2013 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 2201387)
just sayin :tiphat:


....and for free :bowrofl:

Making me look bad! :shakes head:

FPenvy 03-07-2013 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Blake@F.I. Inc. (Post 2201388)
Making me look bad! :shakes head:

haha im just busting balls man i enjoy helping out newcomers on here. i had people help me so i figure it's my duty to do the same.

Felix 808 03-07-2013 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bmarcinczyk14 (Post 2200880)
Have you heard both side by side with the same setups? I'm not too worried about the durability, I talked to their new guy Blake over at Fast Intentions yesterday and he said durability wise the carbon fiber will last just as long.


Not the same setups, but for me I love my non res CF's with stock cats. I am also on Swifts with no problems. They actually set up a lttile bit higher than the stock set up.


FPenvy, good to hear your holding up.

Feryy 03-11-2013 11:09 AM

Try with reverie, as far as I know one of my mates bought stuff from them, and they do silver colored carbon fibre. It might be good for you...

Hope this will help :)

apatter8 03-11-2013 01:21 PM

Looks like I'm in the minority here, but I vote for SS. Like you've already said though, it really comes down to personal preference. Me, I like the deeper tone from the SS and the aggressive look. But if you want a more exotic tone and/or a "stealth" look, then go CF. If you need a tie-breaker, SS is cheaper!

dP3NGU1N 03-11-2013 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Blake@F.I. Inc. (Post 2201233)
There is no reason to say you do not need to be just as careful with the SS and a lowered car. Honestly I cant see the CF being any less durable. If you scrape either one of the can options, you have to expect damage. With the V2 muffler style it seems like most people have no issues as the lowers part of the mufflers sit pretty much inline with the rear axle/tires. I will double check with Tony to make sure I am not missing something about the CF mufflers...

:confused:I never said you have to be less careful. Please reread the statement you quoted.

All I'm trying to point out is that between the two materials one cracks under sufficient pressure and the other is more likely to bend under the same load.

I suppose the argument would be something along the lines of "When is that ever gonna happen?". Probably never, but like I said before, it's just for peace of mind (personally; the OP can do whatever he pleases).

FPenvy 03-11-2013 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by dP3NGU1N (Post 2207258)
:confused:I never said you have to be less careful. Please reread the statement you quoted.

All I'm trying to point out is that between the two materials one cracks under sufficient pressure and the other is more likely to bend under the same load.

I suppose the argument would be something along the lines of "When is that ever gonna happen?". Probably never, but like I said before, it's just for peace of mind (personally; the OP can do whatever he pleases).

15K or so miles with my CF cans and they are perfect :tup:

also sound amazing still.

bmarcinczyk14 03-11-2013 08:42 PM

I actually went with the stainless steel. Figured I didn't want cf enough to account for the extra amount, which would have been slightly over 2k for the exhaust. Once I pass the 2k mark I really start thinking about my decision, I figured the stainless steel is still an amazing piece. Thanks everyone for all your input :tup:.

Z370Z011 03-11-2013 09:08 PM

Might be off topic, but would the FI exhaust non resonated be louder than my short tails? I want an exotic sound but as loud or louder than my short tails. :)

FPenvy 03-11-2013 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Z370Z011 (Post 2208026)
Might be off topic, but would the FI exhaust non resonated be louder than my short tails? I want an exotic sound but as loud or louder than my short tails. :)

My full non res FI set up is super loud. My buddy at the tuning shop said it rivaled most of the major horsepower gtr's lol

homeryansta 03-11-2013 11:19 PM

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Z370Z011 03-12-2013 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 2208212)
My full non res FI set up is super loud. My buddy at the tuning shop said it rivaled most of the major horsepower gtr's lol

Swwweeeeet!!!!! I know what im buying now :D is yours CF or SS?

Sales@F.I. Inc. 03-13-2013 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Z370Z011 (Post 2209834)
Swwweeeeet!!!!! I know what im buying now :D is yours CF or SS?

He is running a CF system!

FPenvy 03-13-2013 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Z370Z011 (Post 2209834)
Swwweeeeet!!!!! I know what im buying now :D is yours CF or SS?

yea i'm running non res FI test pipes and non res FI cat back with CF cans.

FairladyZ 03-13-2013 12:01 PM

how much lighter is the whole carbon fiber exhaust compared to regular SS

FPenvy 03-13-2013 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by FairladyZ (Post 2211099)
how much lighter is the whole carbon fiber exhaust compared to regular SS

6lbs lighter than SS

FairladyZ 03-13-2013 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 2211106)
6lbs lighter than SS


Ok. And the price difference?

FPenvy 03-13-2013 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by FairladyZ (Post 2211130)
Ok. And the price difference?

it's $275 more for CF

Sales@F.I. Inc. 03-13-2013 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by FairladyZ (Post 2211130)
Ok. And the price difference?

FP nailed it... +275 for the CF cans..

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 2211210)
it's $275 more for CF

Stop being so helpful and let me do my job! :icon18:

FPenvy 03-13-2013 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Blake@F.I. Inc. (Post 2211227)
FP nailed it... +275 for the CF cans..



Stop being so helpful and let me do my job! :icon18:

it's what i do. now pay me :tiphat: :bowrofl:

stickers that never came with my set-up would work ;)

Sales@F.I. Inc. 03-13-2013 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 2211236)
it's what i do. now pay me :tiphat: :bowrofl:

stickers that never came with my set-up would work ;)

:rofl2: I would hold off for our new stickers coming soon anyways!

FPenvy 03-13-2013 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Blake@F.I. Inc. (Post 2211243)
:rofl2: I would hold off for our new stickers coming soon anyways!

i know new logo design lol saw it on your TT Z

Sales@F.I. Inc. 03-13-2013 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 2211250)
i know new logo design lol saw it on your TT Z

Why don't you work here? LOL We will have side window stickers coming for you guys soon.

FPenvy 03-13-2013 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Blake@F.I. Inc. (Post 2211261)
Why don't you work here? LOL We will have side window stickers coming for you guys soon.

tell tony to hire me lol i do enough on here and know just as much :tiphat:

faya 03-18-2013 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 2211081)
yea i'm running non res FI test pipes and non res FI cat back with CF cans.

do you have a video sir for reference? thanks!

i just have a question, why test pipes not LTH? the reason I asked is I'm torn between the 2.. thanks!


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