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Hi everyone! I just needs some clarifications and different thoughts from Z family members who has been in this type of game we love. The question is which would you

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Old 02-18-2013, 10:27 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi everyone!

I just needs some clarifications and different thoughts from Z family members who has been in this type of game we love. The question is which would you go to? NA mods like LTH plus CBE plus CAI plus proper tune which is more or less 3gs or the other option which is turbo kits which is about 6gs( i might be wrong, i am open to corrections). Can we say a Stage 1 turbo?

My point is gain to cost ratio. The other thing is, some people or most of the people here says that it will cost you about 15gs to have a good turbo set up.

One more to consider is keeping the car for a real long time like 10 to 15 years as the car is just used during the weekends.

Kindly help me on this one! Thanks! Peace!
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Hmm... What can you afford to do? What do you want from your car?
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Not to thread bash but this has been talked alot about before a 100x over.


Read the finished build threads, read the forums generally and you will come up with your answer.


In the end it's how deep is your pockets? Do you have the one time shot money now to just buy a turbo kit or are you modding as your paycheck or funds allow you to.

With a turbo kit, you need everything up front, with N/A you can mod as you go or how far your money will let you go at that point.


Longevity is all on the tune.

But there is a cap to N/A after a certain point. With turbo there is much more room for growth if the current setup doesn't satisfy you.

Determine what you want to do for the car or horsepower output or delivery/response of the power. Then make an informed decision.
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Honestly it all depends on your goals. What do you want to do with your car? Also both prices are on the low side if you are looking at buying new parts.. boosting the car is about as serious of a mod you can buy aside from building the motor.. something to think about as well.. boltons + tune = 40-50whp (maybe) and forced induction will get you anywhere from 100-200+whp
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Not to thread bash but this has been talked alot about before a 100x over.


Read the finished build threads, read the forums generally and you will come up with your answer.


In the end it's how deep is your pockets? Do you have the one time shot money now to just buy a turbo kit or are you modding as your paycheck or funds allow you to.

With a turbo kit, you need everything up front, with N/A you can mod as you go or how far your money will let you go at that point.


Longevity is all on the tune.

But there is a cap to N/A after a certain point. With turbo there is much more room for growth if the current setup doesn't satisfy you.

Determine what you want to do for the car or horsepower output or delivery/response of the power. Then make an informed decision.
Beat me to it! Great point about how large the cost is up front to go FI. Plus all the supporting mods..
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Hmm... What can you afford to do? What do you want from your car?
So, 15 gs is the right figure to have a proper turbo set up or much even higher?
I am planning to mod the car and I wanted to know all the fundamentals so that I can decide the right direction. I would not want a Turbo set-up if it could not last long.

I am just after for a car that is fast and responsive that can last long as I have mentioned.
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So, 15 gs is the right figure to have a proper turbo set up or much even higher?
I am planning to mod the car and I wanted to know all the fundamentals so that I can decide the right direction. I would not want a Turbo set-up if it could not last long.

I am just after for a car that is fast and responsive that can last long as I have mentioned.
With supporting mods a little higher if you go with a quality kit.. also would you be installing the kit yourself? As far as how long it will last, thats all in the tune and how you drive it.
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If you have to ask if it is, a turbo kit is not for you.
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With supporting mods a little higher if you go with a quality kit.. also would you be installing the kit yourself? As far as how long it will last, thats all in the tune and how you drive it.

how much usually is the installation fee of a good one?

i appreciate all the comments..
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how much usually is the installation fee of a good one?

i appreciate all the comments..
no real set #.. you figure most qualified shops will charge around 80-100$ an hour.. however you can imagine they are not simple installations. Most shops would probably prefer to drop the motor out of the car however it is not necessary.. No offense, but with all the questions you have I really don't think a TT kit is for you. Possibly a warrantied Stillen S/C? or just stick to bolt ons and call it a day.. you will enjoy it either way!
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no real set #.. you figure most qualified shops will charge around 80-100$ an hour.. however you can imagine they are not simple installations. Most shops would probably prefer to drop the motor out of the car however it is not necessary.. No offense, but with all the questions you have I really don't think a TT kit is for you. Possibly a warrantied Stillen S/C? or just stick to bolt ons and call it a day.. you will enjoy it either way!
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TerribleONE pretty much covered it, Because I would Love to go TT, but realisticlly, it's out of my budget, especially having to put so much upfront. I have almost full bolt ons with a CAI, Hiflow Cats, and an exhaust. I still need a tune and maybe a manifold but I LOVE my car. It's my DD I enjoy every single moment of it.
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I might go with TT after 5 years when I have the juice.. i will go full bolt-ons for now..

Will pulleys and flywheels make a big difference? What brands are recommendable for each piece? Thanks!


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Clutch and flywheel make the car much more enjoyable to drive. Do your research if your 100% set on going TT. Some mods wont be compatible just a heads up
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You can be an idiot like me and spend $5,000 on going NA, only to go and supercharge it.
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