Installing Momentum Headers

Joepro · 04-03-2013, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MJB

Lol, sorry bro, but you aren't at 350whp... like I said, 322 sounds about right... in fact sounds a little high for a Mustang Dyno. I bet if you put it on a Dyno Jet you'll make around the same plus or minus a few hp.

Most mustangs read 10-12% lower than a dyno jet. HOWEVER, we will not know until it hits a dyno. regardless, good numbers.

AlexRaymond19 · 04-03-2013, 01:10 PM

We shall see. I'm not making any wild claims, or do I even car really. Just interested to see how much the momentum headers helped out

MJB · 04-03-2013, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Joepro

Most mustangs read 10-12% lower than a dyno jet.

Yes... I understand that.... but what I'm saying I think that particular mustang dyno he was running on was reading high...

MJB · 04-03-2013, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexRaymond19

We shall see. I'm not making any wild claims, or do I even car really. Just interested to see how much the momentum headers helped out

What was your WTQ? And do you have the dyno sheets you can post on here?

Joepro · 04-03-2013, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MJB

Yes... I understand that.... but what I'm saying I think that particular mustang dyno he was running on was reading high...

could be, but we can hope.

AlexRaymond19 · 04-03-2013, 01:30 PM

Ill have the sheets when i pick up the car after work. The guy just emailed me the whp number real fast.

MJB · 04-03-2013, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexRaymond19

Ill have the sheets when i pick up the car after work. The guy just emailed me the whp number real fast.

Good, make sure you get some kind of proof that it was tuned... Who knows, this sheisty shop might have just made up some numbers. Did they do the 5 different maps like valet mode, theft mode, that you can switch threw?

AlexRaymond19 · 04-03-2013, 01:48 PM

Yes they did. I got a 93 TP tune, and 93 cat tune, valet, theft mode, and 91 tp tune. I only intend on using the cats to get a sticker

Huck · 04-03-2013, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexRaymond19

So if everything is correct, and the mustang dyno was configured right. What does 322 equate to on a standard dyno like dynojet? Just currious

340ish.

I'm sorry to hear all of this is happening to you man, it's too bad you don't live closer to me or we could have tackled all this crap no problem, except for the tune (which I'm working on learning). Best of luck to you man.

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AlexRaymond19 · 04-03-2013, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Huck

340ish.

I'm sorry to hear all of this is happening to you man, it's too bad you don't live closer to me or we could have tackled all this crap no problem, except for the tune (which I'm working on learning). Best of luck to you man.

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Thanks for the good words man! Hope all is going well with you. Short term it sucks, but realistically its just money... As long as I learn something from the ordeal i guess its money well spent. It could be worse i suppose

MJB · 04-03-2013, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexRaymond19

Thanks for the good words man! Hope all is going well with you. Short term it sucks, but realistically its just money... As long as I learn something from the ordeal i guess its money well spent. It could be worse i suppose

Yeah, but that just isn't right brother.... I mean I can see a shop charging a couple hundred over from what you were expecting.... I mean it happens, sometimes they run into problems and the time they quoted goes up. But when your talking 3500.. that is straight up robbery.

AlexRaymond19 · 04-03-2013, 02:08 PM

I just want to know why it takes 13 hours to install springs camber arms, and "setup" my suspension...

Huck · 04-03-2013, 02:35 PM

Yeah honestly I would try to take some Kind of legal action if they don't fix this situation to your satisfaction. They can't take your car and ten charge extortionist amounts of money and hold your car for ransom. I would threaten to go ballistic, call the authorities, call the news (cause they always love a good scam story), contact the BBB, call their corporate office, and then give them a bad rep online. Tell them that they are either cone rely dishonest or completely incompetent (ask which it is), and show them quotes from 4 or 5 other shops that are reasonable. Worst case scenario you could pay with a credit card and then dispute the charge.

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AlexRaymond19 · 04-03-2013, 06:12 PM

That is actually the stock cat numbers. They said it made more HP with the stock cats by 2whp... I don't really know how that is possible... First impressions, it felt slow. I don;t know if its because its a **** ton quieter and just feels slower or what. I put the TP map on, and it friggin screams now. Its like stupid fast. Is it okay to run the TP tune with the cats on?

Also, i am most definately taking it to another shop to verify dyno results and see if they can take a peak at the tune and see what the deal is with the test pipes not making more power.

AlexRaymond19 · 04-03-2013, 06:13 PM

Also, i thought the tq and the hp had to cross at 5300?? Is that close enough, or is something fishy

04-03-2013, 01:10 PM	#212 (permalink)
AlexRaymond19 Track Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Maine Posts: 771 Drives: 2010 Nissan 370z Rep Power: 15	We shall see. I'm not making any wild claims, or do I even car really. Just interested to see how much the momentum headers helped out __________________ 2010 370Z Touring MT \| Stillen \| Motordyne \| Momentum\| Z1 \| Fast Intentions \| Advant Garde \| RE11 \| Swift \| SPC \| Quaife \| Whiteline \| Evo R \| 322RWHP 259ft-lb Mustang

04-03-2013, 01:30 PM	#216 (permalink)
AlexRaymond19 Track Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Maine Posts: 771 Drives: 2010 Nissan 370z Rep Power: 15	Ill have the sheets when i pick up the car after work. The guy just emailed me the whp number real fast. __________________ 2010 370Z Touring MT \| Stillen \| Motordyne \| Momentum\| Z1 \| Fast Intentions \| Advant Garde \| RE11 \| Swift \| SPC \| Quaife \| Whiteline \| Evo R \| 322RWHP 259ft-lb Mustang

04-03-2013, 01:48 PM	#218 (permalink)
AlexRaymond19 Track Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Maine Posts: 771 Drives: 2010 Nissan 370z Rep Power: 15	Yes they did. I got a 93 TP tune, and 93 cat tune, valet, theft mode, and 91 tp tune. I only intend on using the cats to get a sticker __________________ 2010 370Z Touring MT \| Stillen \| Motordyne \| Momentum\| Z1 \| Fast Intentions \| Advant Garde \| RE11 \| Swift \| SPC \| Quaife \| Whiteline \| Evo R \| 322RWHP 259ft-lb Mustang

04-03-2013, 02:08 PM	#222 (permalink)
AlexRaymond19 Track Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Maine Posts: 771 Drives: 2010 Nissan 370z Rep Power: 15	I just want to know why it takes 13 hours to install springs camber arms, and "setup" my suspension... __________________ 2010 370Z Touring MT \| Stillen \| Motordyne \| Momentum\| Z1 \| Fast Intentions \| Advant Garde \| RE11 \| Swift \| SPC \| Quaife \| Whiteline \| Evo R \| 322RWHP 259ft-lb Mustang

04-03-2013, 02:35 PM	#223 (permalink)
Huck A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Cocoa, Florida Age: 42 Posts: 5,075 Drives: Pantydropper machine Rep Power: 33	Yeah honestly I would try to take some Kind of legal action if they don't fix this situation to your satisfaction. They can't take your car and ten charge extortionist amounts of money and hold your car for ransom. I would threaten to go ballistic, call the authorities, call the news (cause they always love a good scam story), contact the BBB, call their corporate office, and then give them a bad rep online. Tell them that they are either cone rely dishonest or completely incompetent (ask which it is), and show them quotes from 4 or 5 other shops that are reasonable. Worst case scenario you could pay with a credit card and then dispute the charge. Sent from my iPizzle using magic and new-fangled science stuff __________________ VLEDS \| Evo-R \| Moddiction \| CF Hood Struts \| F.I. CF CBE & LTH \| Stillen CAI \| NST Pulleys \| UpRev \| Z1 \| M7 \| Status \| Forgestar \| PSS \| Whiteline \| SPL \| SPC \| Kenwood \| Zenclosure \| Kicker \| Alpine Type R

04-03-2013, 06:12 PM	#224 (permalink)
AlexRaymond19 Track Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Maine Posts: 771 Drives: 2010 Nissan 370z Rep Power: 15	That is actually the stock cat numbers. They said it made more HP with the stock cats by 2whp... I don't really know how that is possible... First impressions, it felt slow. I don;t know if its because its a ** ton quieter and just feels slower or what. I put the TP map on, and it friggin screams now. Its like stupid fast. Is it okay to run the TP tune with the cats on? Also, i am most definately taking it to another shop to verify dyno results and see if they can take a peak at the tune and see what the deal is with the test pipes not making more power. __________________ 2010 370Z Touring MT \| Stillen \| Motordyne \| Momentum\| Z1 \| Fast Intentions \| Advant Garde \| RE11 \| Swift \| SPC \| Quaife \| Whiteline \| Evo R \| 322RWHP 259ft-lb Mustang**

04-03-2013, 06:13 PM	#225 (permalink)
AlexRaymond19 Track Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Maine Posts: 771 Drives: 2010 Nissan 370z Rep Power: 15	Also, i thought the tq and the hp had to cross at 5300?? Is that close enough, or is something fishy __________________ 2010 370Z Touring MT \| Stillen \| Motordyne \| Momentum\| Z1 \| Fast Intentions \| Advant Garde \| RE11 \| Swift \| SPC \| Quaife \| Whiteline \| Evo R \| 322RWHP 259ft-lb Mustang

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