Installing Momentum Headers

Huck · 04-03-2013, 01:35 PM

Yeah honestly I would try to take some Kind of legal action if they don't fix this situation to your satisfaction. They can't take your car and ten charge extortionist amounts of money and hold your car for ransom. I would threaten to go ballistic, call the authorities, call the news (cause they always love a good scam story), contact the BBB, call their corporate office, and then give them a bad rep online. Tell them that they are either cone rely dishonest or completely incompetent (ask which it is), and show them quotes from 4 or 5 other shops that are reasonable. Worst case scenario you could pay with a credit card and then dispute the charge.

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AlexRaymond19 · 04-03-2013, 05:12 PM

That is actually the stock cat numbers. They said it made more HP with the stock cats by 2whp... I don't really know how that is possible... First impressions, it felt slow. I don;t know if its because its a **** ton quieter and just feels slower or what. I put the TP map on, and it friggin screams now. Its like stupid fast. Is it okay to run the TP tune with the cats on?

Also, i am most definately taking it to another shop to verify dyno results and see if they can take a peak at the tune and see what the deal is with the test pipes not making more power.

Joepro · 04-03-2013, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexRaymond19

That is actually the stock cat numbers. They said it made more HP with the stock cats by 2whp... I don't really know how that is possible... First impressions, it felt slow. I don;t know if its because its a **** ton quieter and just feels slower or what. I put the TP map on, and it friggin screams now. Its like stupid fast. Is it okay to run the TP tune with the cats on?

Also, i am most definately taking it to another shop to verify dyno results and see if they can take a peak at the tune and see what the deal is with the test pipes not making more power.

Do they have the TP graph, maybe someone else know better than us but these cars see to ALWAYS gain hp without cats, unless they have the graph I call BS on that, they didn't do it. Time to part ways with this shop...

AlexRaymond19 · 04-03-2013, 05:13 PM

Also, i thought the tq and the hp had to cross at 5300?? Is that close enough, or is something fishy

Chuck33079 · 04-03-2013, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexRaymond19

Also, i thought the tq and the hp had to cross at 5300?? Is that close enough, or is something fishy

I thought it was 5252. My math is a little rusty though.

Jordo! · 04-03-2013, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

I thought it was 5252. My math is a little rusty though.

When scaled for lb-ft, it is.

AlexRaymond19 · 04-03-2013, 05:23 PM

Oh and i got a peak at some dyno sheets they had on a stock 370 putting down 249 255 and 252 hp on the same dyno. And when i asked if their dyno reads high or low they said on average they see it read 8-15% lower than dynojets

AlexRaymond19 · 04-03-2013, 05:24 PM

Still word or mouth and worthless, but I am getting a bit antsy to get it on a different dyno

MJB · 04-03-2013, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexRaymond19

Still word or mouth and worthless, but I am getting a bit antsy to get it on a different dyno

Why? Aren't happy with the numbers? You said it ran like a raped ape when you had the performance tune on it right? Hows the suspension feel, and what did your alignment look like?

AlexRaymond19 · 04-03-2013, 05:33 PM

I meant the actual dyno numbers they told me about their dyno running lower than average were worthless. It grips like glue! A lot less body roll, changing lanes on the highway is like instant now. And believe it or not, the ride feels less bumpy! I took an off ramp at 60, **** myself, and still didn't come close to feeling like i was going to lose it. Its tight and peppy. So as of this moment i am happy with it. The valet tune is pretty cool too, i love the sound of it tacking out at 4k rpm. Sounds like a video game

Jordo! · 04-03-2013, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexRaymond19

I meant the actual dyno numbers they told me about their dyno running lower than average were worthless. It grips like glue! A lot less body roll, changing lanes on the highway is like instant now. And believe it or not, the ride feels less bumpy! I took an off ramp at 60, **** myself, and still didn't come close to feeling like i was going to lose it. Its tight and peppy. So as of this moment i am happy with it. The valet tune is pretty cool too, i love the sound of it tacking out at 4k rpm. Sounds like a video game

Any dyno will give you potentially "accurate" values, but I'd put it on a dynojet simply because they are VERY consistent from unit to unit.

Get uncorrected, SAE, and if you wish STD and then it will be clearer what's going on.

SS_Firehawk · 04-03-2013, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordo!

Any dyno will give you potentially "accurate" values, but I'd put it on a dynojet simply because they are VERY consistent from unit to unit.

Get uncorrected, SAE, and if you wish STD and then it will be clearer what's going on.

Just ask for the DRF files and download winpep.

JC671 · 04-03-2013, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexRaymond19

i love the sound of it tacking out at 4k rpm. Sounds like a video game

This turned into a Journal

4K is a bit high for a valet tune/limiter... You can still get up to speed with that. I limit mine to 2.5K. I mean most valet area where I'm at parking distance is only xx ft. away they can drive at 25mph max to get it to parking. This is the benefit of having the tuner version

you can do it yourself.

Also, whenever I get work done that I can't handle. I put it in valet mode

I'm glad your happy your setup.

Huck · 04-03-2013, 08:08 PM

At least they gave you maps. I payed $600 and the fûcker wouldn't even make any maps for me. And he netted me all of 8hp.

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Huck · 04-15-2013, 11:48 PM

Haha prepare to hate your car with a passion man! Good luck!

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04-03-2013, 01:35 PM	#1 (permalink)
Huck A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Cocoa, Florida Age: 42 Posts: 5,075 Drives: Pantydropper machine Rep Power: 34	Yeah honestly I would try to take some Kind of legal action if they don't fix this situation to your satisfaction. They can't take your car and ten charge extortionist amounts of money and hold your car for ransom. I would threaten to go ballistic, call the authorities, call the news (cause they always love a good scam story), contact the BBB, call their corporate office, and then give them a bad rep online. Tell them that they are either cone rely dishonest or completely incompetent (ask which it is), and show them quotes from 4 or 5 other shops that are reasonable. Worst case scenario you could pay with a credit card and then dispute the charge. Sent from my iPizzle using magic and new-fangled science stuff __________________ VLEDS \| Evo-R \| Moddiction \| CF Hood Struts \| F.I. CF CBE & LTH \| Stillen CAI \| NST Pulleys \| UpRev \| Z1 \| M7 \| Status \| Forgestar \| PSS \| Whiteline \| SPL \| SPC \| Kenwood \| Zenclosure \| Kicker \| Alpine Type R

04-03-2013, 05:12 PM	#2 (permalink)
AlexRaymond19 Track Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Maine Posts: 771 Drives: 2010 Nissan 370z Rep Power: 15	That is actually the stock cat numbers. They said it made more HP with the stock cats by 2whp... I don't really know how that is possible... First impressions, it felt slow. I don;t know if its because its a ** ton quieter and just feels slower or what. I put the TP map on, and it friggin screams now. Its like stupid fast. Is it okay to run the TP tune with the cats on? Also, i am most definately taking it to another shop to verify dyno results and see if they can take a peak at the tune and see what the deal is with the test pipes not making more power. __________________ 2010 370Z Touring MT \| Stillen \| Motordyne \| Momentum\| Z1 \| Fast Intentions \| Advant Garde \| RE11 \| Swift \| SPC \| Quaife \| Whiteline \| Evo R \| 322RWHP 259ft-lb Mustang**

04-03-2013, 05:13 PM	#4 (permalink)
AlexRaymond19 Track Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Maine Posts: 771 Drives: 2010 Nissan 370z Rep Power: 15	Also, i thought the tq and the hp had to cross at 5300?? Is that close enough, or is something fishy __________________ 2010 370Z Touring MT \| Stillen \| Motordyne \| Momentum\| Z1 \| Fast Intentions \| Advant Garde \| RE11 \| Swift \| SPC \| Quaife \| Whiteline \| Evo R \| 322RWHP 259ft-lb Mustang

04-03-2013, 05:23 PM	#7 (permalink)
AlexRaymond19 Track Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Maine Posts: 771 Drives: 2010 Nissan 370z Rep Power: 15	Oh and i got a peak at some dyno sheets they had on a stock 370 putting down 249 255 and 252 hp on the same dyno. And when i asked if their dyno reads high or low they said on average they see it read 8-15% lower than dynojets __________________ 2010 370Z Touring MT \| Stillen \| Motordyne \| Momentum\| Z1 \| Fast Intentions \| Advant Garde \| RE11 \| Swift \| SPC \| Quaife \| Whiteline \| Evo R \| 322RWHP 259ft-lb Mustang

04-03-2013, 05:24 PM	#8 (permalink)
AlexRaymond19 Track Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Maine Posts: 771 Drives: 2010 Nissan 370z Rep Power: 15	Still word or mouth and worthless, but I am getting a bit antsy to get it on a different dyno DEpointfive0 likes this. __________________ 2010 370Z Touring MT \| Stillen \| Motordyne \| Momentum\| Z1 \| Fast Intentions \| Advant Garde \| RE11 \| Swift \| SPC \| Quaife \| Whiteline \| Evo R \| 322RWHP 259ft-lb Mustang

04-03-2013, 05:33 PM	#10 (permalink)
AlexRaymond19 Track Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Maine Posts: 771 Drives: 2010 Nissan 370z Rep Power: 15	I meant the actual dyno numbers they told me about their dyno running lower than average were worthless. It grips like glue! A lot less body roll, changing lanes on the highway is like instant now. And believe it or not, the ride feels less bumpy! I took an off ramp at 60, ** myself, and still didn't come close to feeling like i was going to lose it. Its tight and peppy. So as of this moment i am happy with it. The valet tune is pretty cool too, i love the sound of it tacking out at 4k rpm. Sounds like a video game __________________ 2010 370Z Touring MT \| Stillen \| Motordyne \| Momentum\| Z1 \| Fast Intentions \| Advant Garde \| RE11 \| Swift \| SPC \| Quaife \| Whiteline \| Evo R \| 322RWHP 259ft-lb Mustang**

04-03-2013, 08:08 PM	#14 (permalink)
Huck A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Cocoa, Florida Age: 42 Posts: 5,075 Drives: Pantydropper machine Rep Power: 34	At least they gave you maps. I payed $600 and the fûcker wouldn't even make any maps for me. And he netted me all of 8hp. Sent from my iPizzle using magic and new-fangled science stuff __________________ VLEDS \| Evo-R \| Moddiction \| CF Hood Struts \| F.I. CF CBE & LTH \| Stillen CAI \| NST Pulleys \| UpRev \| Z1 \| M7 \| Status \| Forgestar \| PSS \| Whiteline \| SPL \| SPC \| Kenwood \| Zenclosure \| Kicker \| Alpine Type R

04-15-2013, 11:48 PM	#15 (permalink)
Huck A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Cocoa, Florida Age: 42 Posts: 5,075 Drives: Pantydropper machine Rep Power: 34	Haha prepare to hate your car with a passion man! Good luck! Sent from my iPizzle using magic and new-fangled science stuff Dzel and AlexRaymond19 like this. __________________ VLEDS \| Evo-R \| Moddiction \| CF Hood Struts \| F.I. CF CBE & LTH \| Stillen CAI \| NST Pulleys \| UpRev \| Z1 \| M7 \| Status \| Forgestar \| PSS \| Whiteline \| SPL \| SPC \| Kenwood \| Zenclosure \| Kicker \| Alpine Type R

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