Installing Momentum Headers

AlexRaymond19 · 04-02-2013, 01:43 PM

It made 322WHP with the stock cats on... They did not dyno it with the test pipes on like i requested... Also they hit me with a bill of 3500 bucks.... I am so pissed right now i can't even begin to think about what i am going to do about it. Or what i can do about it even. I basically told the guy i wanted him to make the stock cats fit on there because i was cheap and did not want to buy new ones. You would think after saying that, that he would tell me up front that it would cost more. 25 hours of labor at 95/hour.... Plus the tuning and install of swift springs and camber arms

edub370 · 04-02-2013, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexRaymond19

It made 322WHP with the stock cats on... They did not dyno it with the test pipes on like i requested... Also they hit me with a bill of 3500 bucks.... I am so pissed right now i can't even begin to think about what i am going to do about it. Or what i can do about it even. I basically told the guy i wanted him to make the stock cats fit on there because i was cheap and did not want to buy new ones. You would think after saying that, that he would tell me up front that it would cost more. 25 hours of labor at 95/hour.... Plus the tuning and install of swift springs and camber arms

25 HOURS??? What did they do, take an 8 hour nap between sides??

AlexRaymond19 · 04-02-2013, 02:10 PM

How long does it take to install springs and camber arms?

MJB · 04-02-2013, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexRaymond19

How long does it take to install springs and camber arms?

I could do it in my garage using jack stands in about 4 hours tops, if I work straight through with no breaks... 3500? Damn brother....

Did they give you a dyno sheet or anything?

Huck · 04-02-2013, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexRaymond19

How long does it take to install springs and camber arms?

I just did my swifts in 3 hours at home with stands. Camber arms couldn't be more than another hour tops. And what are you going with cats? Oh wait! Momentum headers, not long tube FI headers lol, sorry. Still, 25 hours means they do t know what he fûck they're doing.

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N0SL3N · 04-02-2013, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexRaymond19

It made 322WHP with the stock cats on... They did not dyno it with the test pipes on like i requested... Also they hit me with a bill of 3500 bucks.... I am so pissed right now i can't even begin to think about what i am going to do about it. Or what i can do about it even. I basically told the guy i wanted him to make the stock cats fit on there because i was cheap and did not want to buy new ones. You would think after saying that, that he would tell me up front that it would cost more. 25 hours of labor at 95/hour.... Plus the tuning and install of swift springs and camber arms

I don't get it. Didn't you install the headers yourself? what was the 25 hours for, making the momentum headers fit with 370Z cats (ie change the flanges)?

Also I agree, springs and camber arms if you have a lift, an impact wrench and spring compressors should take 4 hours max.

AlexRaymond19 · 04-03-2013, 06:09 AM

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I don't get it. Didn't you install the headers yourself? what was the 25 hours for, making the momentum headers fit with 370Z cats (ie change the flanges)?

Also I agree, springs and camber arms if you have a lift, an impact wrench and spring compressors should take 4 hours max.

They said they could mod my stock cats to fit for cheaper than it would cost to buy new ones... Chanrged me 5 hours for that, and 13 hours to install springs and set up the suspension. I complained about it it, and theyu dropped it from 25 hours to 18 hours. I think the whole thing should have only taken 10 hours max. But i really have no choice but to pay at this point... They have my car until i do

NitrousZ34 · 04-03-2013, 06:33 AM

Wow thats some bs. It should only take 4 hours, 5 MAX to do the suspension. Thats $500 right there, plus tune, and flanges. Maybe $1500 at most. You got shafted duded

JC671 · 04-03-2013, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by AlexRaymond19

They said they could mod my stock cats to fit for cheaper than it would cost to buy new ones... Chanrged me 5 hours for that, and 13 hours to install springs and set up the suspension. I complained about it it, and theyu dropped it from 25 hours to 18 hours. I think the whole thing should have only taken 10 hours max. But i really have no choice but to pay at this point... They have my car until i do

Bro I'm lost here... What exactly got done to your car that took 25 hours? How long was your car there till it was done?

Most shops are only open 8-5pm and unless your car is the only car they are working on. I doubt it takes that long.

That's why you always get a solid estimate/quote in writing. I could do all those things without a lift in less hours.

Just because the shop has novice mechanics and it took them longer than what the manual says they shouldn't had charged that much.

Why are you on stock cats? I may have missed it but I thought you put on the Z1 test pipes when you put the headers on.

chrischhorn · 04-03-2013, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by AlexRaymond19

It made 322WHP with the stock cats on... They did not dyno it with the test pipes on like i requested... Also they hit me with a bill of 3500 bucks.... I am so pissed right now i can't even begin to think about what i am going to do about it. Or what i can do about it even. I basically told the guy i wanted him to make the stock cats fit on there because i was cheap and did not want to buy new ones. You would think after saying that, that he would tell me up front that it would cost more. 25 hours of labor at 95/hour.... Plus the tuning and install of swift springs and camber arms

You can used stock DE cats for $100......Springs and camber take 4 hours with the tools they have at their disposal. IF you don't have Uprev and you paid for the program and the tune then $850ish. To change the cat flanges looks like they charged you for a damn Meistershaft exhaust....

Joepro · 04-03-2013, 07:22 AM

I would not pay even that much...call 3 other shops and get quotes. Then go to the
Manger and show the other time quotes and tell him you will pay what is fair. contact the bbb immediately if he will not work with you. I know flat rate all too well, if it took 25 hours they would not have magically knocked off 7 hours so quickly, and we all know it didnt.

AlexRaymond19 · 04-03-2013, 09:24 AM

It was there for a week, waiting on parts. And they said they couldn't let it leave the shop without stock cats...

MJB · 04-03-2013, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by AlexRaymond19

It was there for a week, waiting on parts. And they said they couldn't let it leave the shop without stock cats...

So you said the bumped the time down to 18 hours, so how much are they charging you now? How much did they charge for the tune and dyno time?

Sh0velMan · 04-03-2013, 09:31 AM

It's a little baffling to me that you would take on a header install yourself but then pay someone to put on simple suspension parts. :P

Joepro · 04-03-2013, 10:22 AM

Most shops doing performance work should have a set fee for tuning, a set fee for suspension install, so the only wild card would be the cats...like everyone else I wish you luck, but do not fold, give them hell!

04-02-2013, 01:43 PM	#181 (permalink)
AlexRaymond19 Track Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Maine Posts: 771 Drives: 2010 Nissan 370z Rep Power: 15	It made 322WHP with the stock cats on... They did not dyno it with the test pipes on like i requested... Also they hit me with a bill of 3500 bucks.... I am so pissed right now i can't even begin to think about what i am going to do about it. Or what i can do about it even. I basically told the guy i wanted him to make the stock cats fit on there because i was cheap and did not want to buy new ones. You would think after saying that, that he would tell me up front that it would cost more. 25 hours of labor at 95/hour.... Plus the tuning and install of swift springs and camber arms __________________ 2010 370Z Touring MT \| Stillen \| Motordyne \| Momentum\| Z1 \| Fast Intentions \| Advant Garde \| RE11 \| Swift \| SPC \| Quaife \| Whiteline \| Evo R \| 322RWHP 259ft-lb Mustang

04-02-2013, 02:10 PM	#183 (permalink)
AlexRaymond19 Track Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Maine Posts: 771 Drives: 2010 Nissan 370z Rep Power: 15	How long does it take to install springs and camber arms? __________________ 2010 370Z Touring MT \| Stillen \| Motordyne \| Momentum\| Z1 \| Fast Intentions \| Advant Garde \| RE11 \| Swift \| SPC \| Quaife \| Whiteline \| Evo R \| 322RWHP 259ft-lb Mustang

04-03-2013, 07:22 AM	#191 (permalink)
Joepro A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Athens ohio Posts: 1,213 Drives: Company car Rep Power: 34	I would not pay even that much...call 3 other shops and get quotes. Then go to the Manger and show the other time quotes and tell him you will pay what is fair. contact the bbb immediately if he will not work with you. I know flat rate all too well, if it took 25 hours they would not have magically knocked off 7 hours so quickly, and we all know it didnt. __________________ Swift\|Koni\|SPC\| FI CBE\|Z1\|Stillen\|Sbend\|Zspeed\|R/T Tuned\|523 whp\|458 tq\|10.5 psi\|SOLD Joepro's Journal\|Joepro's Boosted Performance Build \|Pittsburgh-Western-Pa-Ohio-Wv-Group Last edited by Joepro; 04-03-2013 at 08:20 AM.

04-03-2013, 09:24 AM	#192 (permalink)
AlexRaymond19 Track Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Maine Posts: 771 Drives: 2010 Nissan 370z Rep Power: 15	It was there for a week, waiting on parts. And they said they couldn't let it leave the shop without stock cats... __________________ 2010 370Z Touring MT \| Stillen \| Motordyne \| Momentum\| Z1 \| Fast Intentions \| Advant Garde \| RE11 \| Swift \| SPC \| Quaife \| Whiteline \| Evo R \| 322RWHP 259ft-lb Mustang

04-03-2013, 09:31 AM	#194 (permalink)
Sh0velMan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Dallas/Ft.Worth Posts: 3,349 Drives: Noisily. Rep Power: 20	It's a little baffling to me that you would take on a header install yourself but then pay someone to put on simple suspension parts. :P fuct, UFreefer, MJB and 1 others like this. __________________ Buy My Car! \| Build Thread

04-03-2013, 06:33 AM	#188 (permalink)
NitrousZ34 Banned Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Canoga Posts: 505 Drives: Myself crazy Rep Power: 0	Wow thats some bs. It should only take 4 hours, 5 MAX to do the suspension. Thats $500 right there, plus tune, and flanges. Maybe $1500 at most. You got shafted duded

04-03-2013, 10:22 AM	#195 (permalink)
Joepro A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Athens ohio Posts: 1,213 Drives: Company car Rep Power: 34	Most shops doing performance work should have a set fee for tuning, a set fee for suspension install, so the only wild card would be the cats...like everyone else I wish you luck, but do not fold, give them hell! N0SL3N and NitrousZ34 like this. __________________ Swift\|Koni\|SPC\| FI CBE\|Z1\|Stillen\|Sbend\|Zspeed\|R/T Tuned\|523 whp\|458 tq\|10.5 psi\|SOLD Joepro's Journal\|Joepro's Boosted Performance Build \|Pittsburgh-Western-Pa-Ohio-Wv-Group

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