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AlexRaymond19 04-02-2013 12:43 PM

It made 322WHP with the stock cats on... They did not dyno it with the test pipes on like i requested... Also they hit me with a bill of 3500 bucks.... I am so pissed right now i can't even begin to think about what i am going to do about it. Or what i can do about it even. I basically told the guy i wanted him to make the stock cats fit on there because i was cheap and did not want to buy new ones. You would think after saying that, that he would tell me up front that it would cost more. 25 hours of labor at 95/hour.... Plus the tuning and install of swift springs and camber arms

edub370 04-02-2013 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexRaymond19 (Post 2246955)
It made 322WHP with the stock cats on... They did not dyno it with the test pipes on like i requested... Also they hit me with a bill of 3500 bucks.... I am so pissed right now i can't even begin to think about what i am going to do about it. Or what i can do about it even. I basically told the guy i wanted him to make the stock cats fit on there because i was cheap and did not want to buy new ones. You would think after saying that, that he would tell me up front that it would cost more. 25 hours of labor at 95/hour.... Plus the tuning and install of swift springs and camber arms

25 HOURS??? What did they do, take an 8 hour nap between sides??

AlexRaymond19 04-02-2013 01:10 PM

How long does it take to install springs and camber arms?

MJB 04-02-2013 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexRaymond19 (Post 2247019)
How long does it take to install springs and camber arms?

I could do it in my garage using jack stands in about 4 hours tops, if I work straight through with no breaks... 3500? Damn brother....

Did they give you a dyno sheet or anything?

Huck 04-02-2013 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexRaymond19 (Post 2247019)
How long does it take to install springs and camber arms?

I just did my swifts in 3 hours at home with stands. Camber arms couldn't be more than another hour tops. And what are you going with cats? Oh wait! Momentum headers, not long tube FI headers lol, sorry. Still, 25 hours means they do t know what he fûck they're doing.


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N0SL3N 04-02-2013 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexRaymond19 (Post 2246955)
It made 322WHP with the stock cats on... They did not dyno it with the test pipes on like i requested... Also they hit me with a bill of 3500 bucks.... I am so pissed right now i can't even begin to think about what i am going to do about it. Or what i can do about it even. I basically told the guy i wanted him to make the stock cats fit on there because i was cheap and did not want to buy new ones. You would think after saying that, that he would tell me up front that it would cost more. 25 hours of labor at 95/hour.... Plus the tuning and install of swift springs and camber arms

I don't get it. Didn't you install the headers yourself? what was the 25 hours for, making the momentum headers fit with 370Z cats (ie change the flanges)?

Also I agree, springs and camber arms if you have a lift, an impact wrench and spring compressors should take 4 hours max.

AlexRaymond19 04-03-2013 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by N0SL3N (Post 2247292)
I don't get it. Didn't you install the headers yourself? what was the 25 hours for, making the momentum headers fit with 370Z cats (ie change the flanges)?

Also I agree, springs and camber arms if you have a lift, an impact wrench and spring compressors should take 4 hours max.

They said they could mod my stock cats to fit for cheaper than it would cost to buy new ones... Chanrged me 5 hours for that, and 13 hours to install springs and set up the suspension. I complained about it it, and theyu dropped it from 25 hours to 18 hours. I think the whole thing should have only taken 10 hours max. But i really have no choice but to pay at this point... They have my car until i do

NitrousZ34 04-03-2013 05:33 AM

Wow thats some bs. It should only take 4 hours, 5 MAX to do the suspension. Thats $500 right there, plus tune, and flanges. Maybe $1500 at most. You got shafted duded

JC671 04-03-2013 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by AlexRaymond19 (Post 2248505)
They said they could mod my stock cats to fit for cheaper than it would cost to buy new ones... Chanrged me 5 hours for that, and 13 hours to install springs and set up the suspension. I complained about it it, and theyu dropped it from 25 hours to 18 hours. I think the whole thing should have only taken 10 hours max. But i really have no choice but to pay at this point... They have my car until i do

Bro I'm lost here... What exactly got done to your car that took 25 hours? How long was your car there till it was done?

Most shops are only open 8-5pm and unless your car is the only car they are working on. I doubt it takes that long.

That's why you always get a solid estimate/quote in writing. I could do all those things without a lift in less hours.

Just because the shop has novice mechanics and it took them longer than what the manual says they shouldn't had charged that much.

Why are you on stock cats? I may have missed it but I thought you put on the Z1 test pipes when you put the headers on.

chrischhorn 04-03-2013 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by AlexRaymond19 (Post 2246955)
It made 322WHP with the stock cats on... They did not dyno it with the test pipes on like i requested... Also they hit me with a bill of 3500 bucks.... I am so pissed right now i can't even begin to think about what i am going to do about it. Or what i can do about it even. I basically told the guy i wanted him to make the stock cats fit on there because i was cheap and did not want to buy new ones. You would think after saying that, that he would tell me up front that it would cost more. 25 hours of labor at 95/hour.... Plus the tuning and install of swift springs and camber arms

You can used stock DE cats for $100......Springs and camber take 4 hours with the tools they have at their disposal. IF you don't have Uprev and you paid for the program and the tune then $850ish. To change the cat flanges looks like they charged you for a damn Meistershaft exhaust....

Joepro 04-03-2013 06:22 AM

I would not pay even that much...call 3 other shops and get quotes. Then go to the
Manger and show the other time quotes and tell him you will pay what is fair. contact the bbb immediately if he will not work with you. I know flat rate all too well, if it took 25 hours they would not have magically knocked off 7 hours so quickly, and we all know it didnt.

AlexRaymond19 04-03-2013 08:24 AM

It was there for a week, waiting on parts. And they said they couldn't let it leave the shop without stock cats...

MJB 04-03-2013 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by AlexRaymond19 (Post 2248612)
It was there for a week, waiting on parts. And they said they couldn't let it leave the shop without stock cats...

So you said the bumped the time down to 18 hours, so how much are they charging you now? How much did they charge for the tune and dyno time?

Sh0velMan 04-03-2013 08:31 AM

It's a little baffling to me that you would take on a header install yourself but then pay someone to put on simple suspension parts. :P

Joepro 04-03-2013 09:22 AM

Most shops doing performance work should have a set fee for tuning, a set fee for suspension install, so the only wild card would be the cats...like everyone else I wish you luck, but do not fold, give them hell!


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