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XwChriswX 01-21-2013 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2123003)
:iagree:

Stillen has the ring too


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lemon-fresh 01-21-2013 04:17 PM

Just because I've been really enjoying the discussion.

I think it's about time to toss this old classic into the mix:

JAY.mp4 video by GTMPOWER | Photobucket

Is it because there wasn't a steel sleeve?

XwChriswX 01-21-2013 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by lemon-fresh (Post 2123028)
Just because I've been really enjoying the discussion.

I think it's about time to toss this old classic into the mix:

JAY.mp4 video by GTMPOWER | Photobucket

Is it because there wasn't a steel sleeve?

Unorthodox Racing... Not Stillen/NST

No mention of Steel Sleeve in advertising, and no pictures of the backside of the pulley.

From: http://www.the370z.com/drivetrain-en...check-out.html
Quote:

Description:Unorthodox Racing Ultra Accessory pulleys are included in our Ultra Street Sets or may be purchased separately. They are CNC-machined from light weight 6061-T6 aluminum billet. As with all Unorthodox Racing products, tolerances for each accessory pulley is held to within .001".
:ugh2:


Off the record though, classic as it may be that isn't a VQ37... So it's not representative of this specific platform. Why? Because impact wrench.

edub370 01-21-2013 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lemon-fresh (Post 2123028)
Just because I've been really enjoying the discussion.

I think it's about time to toss this old classic into the mix:

JAY.mp4 video by GTMPOWER | Photobucket

Is it because there wasn't a steel sleeve?

THANK YOU!

I had been looking for that vid since this thread started. and while its not a vq37, its still a good representation of what happens when mating to unlike materials

Trilitheum 01-21-2013 04:31 PM

Just to address an issue brought up in several posts "The rubber annular ring is only about 5mm thick, it can't fix or do ___X____"

This ring sets up a torsional "lag" between the inner and outer cast iron pieces, the thickness along with the durometer of the rubber dictates the response of the torsional damper. This thickness would be calculated to dampen in the target frequency (RPM) range.

The ring itself is not doing to dampening directly, it is coupling the inner and outer masses which as an entire system does the damping it really is a case of the result is more than the sum of its parts, it's how they work together.

DEpointfive0 01-21-2013 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lemon-fresh (Post 2123028)
Just because I've been really enjoying the discussion.

I think it's about time to toss this old classic into the mix:

JAY.mp4 video by GTMPOWER | Photobucket

Is it because there wasn't a steel sleeve?

Honestly, I wouldn't use an impact wrench to take it off

Also, the BOLT has fused... Nothing to do with the pulley, no?


And a LOT of people have a TON of problems taking the stock pulley off

DEpointfive0 01-21-2013 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 2123052)
Unorthodox Racing... Not Stillen/NST

No mention of Steel Sleeve in advertising, and no pictures of the backside of the pulley.

From: http://www.the370z.com/drivetrain-en...check-out.html


:ugh2:


Off the record though, classic as it may be that isn't a VQ37... So it's not representative of this specific platform. Why? Because impact wrench.

The second video is of a Stillen

Red__Zed 01-21-2013 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trilitheum (Post 2123073)
Just to address an issue brought up in several posts "The rubber annular ring is only about 5mm thick, it can't fix or do ___X____"

This ring sets up a torsional "lag" between the inner and outer cast iron pieces, the thickness along with the durometer of the rubber dictates the response of the torsional damper. This thickness would be calculated to dampen in the target frequency (RPM) range.

The ring itself is not doing to dampening directly, it is coupling the inner and outer masses which as an entire system does the damping it really is a case of the result is more than the sum of its parts, it's how they work together.

Absolutely. It's a "spring/mass" system.

The boundaries are where the magic happens.

Trilitheum 01-21-2013 04:44 PM

^Absolutely Agree, just was trying to address several posts in this and other threads that it is too small to do anything.

It's not the size that matters it's how you use it ;)

XwChriswX 01-21-2013 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2123115)
The second video is of a Stillen

Second video??

DEpointfive0 01-21-2013 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 2123163)
Second video??

Yeah, I'm looking at the link through my phone and I see 2 videos...

The second one is the same...
Impact wrench... Acetylene/blow torching

XwChriswX 01-21-2013 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2123171)
Yeah, I'm looking at the link through my phone and I see 2 videos...

The second one is the same...
Impact wrench... Acetylene/blow torching

Oh, yeah I saw that then. Different attempts at the same (Unorthodox Racing) Pulley.

luigi90210 01-21-2013 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lemon-fresh (Post 2123028)
Just because I've been really enjoying the discussion.

I think it's about time to toss this old classic into the mix:

JAY.mp4 video by GTMPOWER | Photobucket

Is it because there wasn't a steel sleeve?

^THIS

im very open minded to mods but this is one mod i will never recommend to someone or ever do myself, to much of a risk

Quote:

Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 2123184)
Oh, yeah I saw that then. Different attempts at the same (Unorthodox Racing) Pulley.

the second one said stillen on the part though

DEpointfive0 01-21-2013 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 2123184)
Oh, yeah I saw that then. Different attempts at the same (Unorthodox Racing) Pulley.

They're different, I promise, look closely!


The second one says Stillen clearly

XwChriswX 01-21-2013 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2123193)
They're different, I promise, look closely!


The second one says Stillen clearly

I just watched it again, I'm not seeing it. @ what time point are you seeing it?


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